Firebox run by Counterfire: Champagne socialism.

[DaveCinzano]

To listen to the albums opening track, Magic Clap care of Huffington Post

This one goes out to MC Arianna

 

[frogwoman]

Fuck them and fuck their stupid cafe.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

It's not for the likes of us.

 

[DotCommunist]

Although I do now have a hankering for iranian naan bread. Dipped in the conflict yoghurt of greece

 

[frogwoman]

palestinian yorkshire puddings with rosehip sauce

 

[Captain Hurrah]

Gaza Pie.

 

[butchersapron]

Loached eggs.

 

[two sheds]

...and whilst it's obviously a crock of shite, I'd still rather pop in somewhere nicely done out for a cappuccino than a badly lit, dark slightly damp "social centre" to eat vegan slop with a bunch of juggling hippies.

So many people go all middle class as they get older .

 

[Plumdaff]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea of having a cafe, and I don't like to automatically snipe (ok a teensy bit ) and I can see the argument to do it up properly and lease rather than squat - but, and it's a big but, not in a venue which as far as I can see has been chosen solely because of someone's sentimental attachment to the place. Because it's where it is I imagine the lease is extortionate. Therefore it will really struggle to stay open and has already got to charge stupid amounts of money for the meeting rooms (and surely one of the main reasons to secure somewhere like this is to offer free or peppercorn rates to good people and causes). Therefore only the same old groups and same old people will use the place - they'll be little footfall even from students and genuine community involvement. It'll end up just being a cafe that sometimes has meetings in it, which is ok, but my local pub does that and doesn't claim any radicalism (nor does it charge!). I mean, I'm not local to the area, but the Cally Rd is not far away, weren't there better choices along there?

P.S I just realised I'm assuming there was meant to be some genuine community involvement. Maybe not.

 

[Firky]

I knew this thread was gonna be a corker

4th hit on Google, they're going to be pissed.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=...5.1558.17j1.18.0.les;..0.0...1c.1.qlPOcCKYfW0

 

[treelover]

Anyways for something less nauseating the Cuts Cafe will open today....

http://cutscafelondon.wordpress.com/

Already youth groups, disabled activists, anti-cuts, union and community organisers have registered workshops. Activists from Unite the Union, London Coalition Against Poverty, Sparks Rank and File, Disabled People Against the Cuts, The Blacklist Support Group, Boycott Workfare, Fuel Poverty Action, UKUncut, Move Your Money, Black Activists Rising Against the Cuts (BARAC), Compass, Stop the G8, Red Pepper and Radical London are taking part. More are getting in touch every day. The family of Sean Rigg, killed by police in 2008 will accompany Ken Fero’s film ‘Who Polices the Police?’ and legendary class-struggle film-maker Ken Loach will present his Miners Strike classic ‘Which Side Are You On?’

Sounds positive, some very worthwhile groups there, wish it had been like that back in the day instead of clowning workshops..

 

[weepiper]

Greecey spoon caff.

 

[treelover]

I knew this thread was gonna be a corker

4th hit on Google, they're going to be pissed.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=firebox cafe counterfire&oq=firebox cafe counterfire&gs_l=hp.3...263.6873.0.6978.24.19.0.1.1.0.155.1558.17j1.18.0.les;..0.0...1c.1.qlPOcCKYfW0

not sure what I think about that, its certain it will be in Private Eye, even the Daily mail, urban providing ammunition?

Btw, i don't have a problem with middle class socialists, activists, etc, its when they dominate and there is a dearth of working class ones, etc...

 

[the button]

Loached eggs.

Salt & visteon crisps

 

[rekil]

The chemists?

Tables, with umbrellas, outside. A little bit communism.

 

[butchersapron]

Tables, with umbrellas, outside. A little bit communism.

Fancy continental communism i think.

Talking of community involvement, i think they're going to produce the community they want and are comfortable with. Just like a squat with its windows blacked out and the people refusing to drink in local pubs does. But a bit pricier. That said, i reckon there's a market in london for that - and a good way to tap some rich fools for 'the cause'.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Greecey spoon caff.

Challenging hummusphobia

 

[ViolentPanda]

Mild has always been shit

Says someone who's obviously never supped a pint of Banks's Mild.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Tariq is ok & he done good in the '68 anti 'Nam war demos at Grosvenor Sq.

Or so Tariq constantly tells us.

 

[Firky]

not sure what I think about that,

Why is it you always give more of a damn about what things look like on Google than the thread themselves?

Spanky is right about you, you're an arse.

 

[treelover]

because i want left wing politics to be successful, not marginal....

 

[articul8]

http://www.3ca.org.uk/events/trinity/2012/the-coup

They sound pretty damn great

 

[articul8]

Says someone who's obviously never supped a pint of Banks's Mild.

Mild is where they dump the slop tray - that's why it's cheap.

 

[love detective]

it's like the equivalent of a book by laurie penny

 

[ViolentPanda]

Mild is where they dump the slop tray - that's why it's cheap.

You shouldn't judge all beers by the glasses full of phlegm and dregs that barmen the world over have served you.

 

[cesare]

Pankhurst's Parlour

 

[the button]

Pankhurst's Parlour

Chez Guevara.

 

[DotCommunist]

Pankhurst's Parlour

Pantry, surely

 

[DaveCinzano]

Chez Guevara.

"All our milk and artisan cheese products are locally sourced from the Motorcycle Dairies Workers' Co-op"

 

[butchersapron]

You shouldn't judge all beers by the glasses full of phlegm and dregs that barmen the world over have served you.

It might just be you a8?