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Finding "The Plot to Seize the White House"

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Does anyone know how i can get hold of this book?

The plot to seize the White House
by Jules Archer

I was just a little late at trying to purchase a copy for over 100 USD and then another for 324 USD from alibris. Frustrating.

It looks like a good read, and like all very good books, "they" are trying to destroy all copies. Exciting, isn't it?
 
Cut'n'paste from amazon.com
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

The Book that never was?, November 12, 2005
Reviewer: John H. Macdonald "gemini bytes" (Boston) - See all my reviews

I read this book about twenty years ago, and it was readily available at libraries and used book stores. I thought the informtion was stunning, and found it hard to believe that a movie, etc. was never made of this event. For some reason, I decided to reread it recently, and found that it is extremely hard to find, and priced very high. The reviewer below who maintains that the book is being bought up seems to be on the money, as I have found that almost all library copies have been "lost" and used copies are about a hundred dollars. The information in the book was shocking and the auther cited numerous promary sources that are now classified or disappeared. This book was far more shocking than All The President's Men, and I recommend it highly. Something should be done to prevent it's disappearance.

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What I'd like to know is, August 12, 2005
Reviewer: Ruth E. Davis "Lacy Sleeves" (Richmond, VA) - See all my reviews

why does the page for this book change every time I come back to it? I have not actually read the book, since I cannot get ahold of a copy. When I first came to this page, there was an editorial review, and several customer reviews. Now, the editorial review is gone, and there is only one customer review. Some say that the wealthy families named in this book have been buying up all the copies so no one will read it. Maybe now they are having reviews of the book expunged as well.

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A key event in the History of Corporate Crime., June 20, 2005
Reviewer: Lion Kuntz "Researcher of Evil" (California, USA) - See all my reviews

This book has achieved the "rare" book status. Rumor has it that copies are being bought up to erase its existence, ending its stain on reputations on rich families with embarrasing ancestery. In any case, readers will only find it in a few libraries. A recent book: The Corporation : The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power, by Joel Bakan , ISBN: 0743247442, has a concise synopis of the facts presented in chapter 4. Also, extensive quotes are online on http://coat.ncf.ca website, issue #53.

Before reading this book, one should read The Sociopath Next Door: The Ruthless Versus the Rest of Us, by Martha Stout, ISBN: 076791581X. All of history needs to be interpreted through the understanding of sociopathy.

The Plot To Seize The White House contains a few primary sources, and records links to many other primary sources, which is its archival value. The details of the Plot itself are told here, and can be retold endlessly by others who care about this event. The story in brief is General Smedley Butler was approached to lead a coup d'etat to overthrow democracy in 1933 & 1934. (Reminding modern readers, 1933 was the year Hitler assumed power in Germany.) He declined, and exposed the plot. The plotters then employed the "OJ Simpson" theory of defense: "if you have enough money you can get away with murder."

Nobody was ever prosecuted. Important men were never arrested or grilled over facts. The newspaper sensation created by an impotent congressional investigation in 1934 and 1935 died down and the story collected dust, forgotten ever since.

However, the story fits into some others, including other suppressed and buried history. In telling the story of the Plot, Jules Archer tells also the biography of General Smedley Butler who declined to become the American Hitler or Mussolini, over a fascist takeover of the US. There are two books in one, woven together around this Plot.

Smedley Butler's biography shows him in Vera Cruz, Mexico, in 1914, simultaneously when armed men, government troopers, were killing American men, women and children in Ludlow, Colorado. Also, at this same moment in time, early 1914, Rockefellers were taking over the Remington Arms Company. For details of the Ludlow Massacre you need to read two books: Buried Unsung: Louis Tikas and the Ludlow Massacre, by Zeese Papanikolas, ISBN: 0803287275, and The Great Coalfield War, by George S McGovern, ISBN: 0395136490. Remington Arms Co. history is documented in the book: Remington Arms in American history, by Alden Hatch, ASIN: B0007DYPC4.

These details are not important only to The Plot To Seize The White House, but central to unravelling the Hitler Project. Yet two more books are required to place everything in order: Hitler's Secret Backers, by Sidney Warburg, ISBN: 0960035869, and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, by Antony C. Sutton, ISBN: 0945001533.

From these books a timeline can be constructed:
1929 Wall Street interests send Hitler $10,000,000.
1931 Wall Street sends Hiltler another $15,000,000.
1933 Wall Street Sends Hitler a final $7,000,000. (total $32,000,000.)
1933 Wall Street puts up initial $3,000,000, backed by another reserve $15,000,000, for the Plot to Seize the White House. Up to $300,000,000 backing is promised.

Believable? The House of Morgan: An American Banking Dynasty and the Rise of Modern Finance, by Ron Chernow, ISBN: 0802138292, reports that JP Morgan was Mussolini's banker for over $500,000,000 and heavily invested in fascist Japan by 1931. JP Morgan has over $3 BILLION invested in Germany by 1931. A Law Unto Itself: The Untold Story of the Law Firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, by Nancy Lisagor, Frank Ipsivs, ISBN: 0688048889, reports that John Foster Dulles and S&C law firm have $1.15 BILLION invested in Germany by 1931. Titan : The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr., by Ron Chernow, ISBN: 0679757031, reveals the Rockefeller "method" of business, including secret takeovers, bribed officials, blatant lawbreaking, industrial spying, and philosophy "the weakest must die first".

Yes, Wall Street was behind Hitler and Mussolini, without any doubt. All the plotter named in Archer's book, named by Smedley Butler to congress, were fascist supporters. Rockefellers were at war with the weak, using soldiers to kill. In 1927 Smedley's marines landed in China at the (Rockefeller's) Standard Oil docks, were stationed on S.O. property and protected S.O. investments. In 1914 Rockefellers and Morgans used Butler in Vera Cruz to kill peons in Mexico, just as Rockefeller-directed government troopers gunned down Americans at Ludlow, Colorado, at the same moment that Rockefeller-controlled Remington Arms was expanding arms production even before the Duke was shot starting WWI.

Using government troopers to quell democracy was a tradition by 1933, and fascist investments in German continued past Pearl Harbor. See: Trading with the enemy: An exposé of the Nazi-American money plot, 1933-1949, by Charles Higham, ISBN: 0440090644, and American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush, by Kevin Phillips, ISBN: 0670032646.

This book stands alone as a mystery story, a spy story, a thriller, a history, a biography of a patriot, a record of government corruption. It also fits in with a great body of literature with pieces of information telling bits of the history of sociopathy that killed over 200,000,000 people last century.
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Well...

I do not know of the original book--but if the book by Anthony Sutton is required to complete the picture, it will probably be BS, as Sutton's book no way proves its thesis, and substitutes fantasy/conjecture for evidence.
 
I read somewhere else, I think in one of Studs Terkel's books, that there was some kind of anti-FDR coup plot at one point in the 1930s.

But it came across as more Eoin O'Duffy than Adolf H.

This business about Wall Street donating to Adolf - it's possible alright. But my 'anti-semite' alarm started edging towards the red zone. . . the last time I heard this point raised was by Justin Barrett, extreme Irish anti-abortionist and friend of the fash.
 
Fuck, how bizarre! I read about this book in "The Corporation" too. Have you checked ebay for a copy?

I don't know what the above two other poster are banging on about tbh.
 
Four and half years ago I started writing a book about fascism in America. For much of the background information, I relied on already published works. Most of the works were out of print but easily obtained in the used-book market. About two years ago I started having problems obtaining certain books: they were either prohibitively expensive or simply not available at any price. Since that time, I have encountered over twenty books that are no longer available. At least one independent bookstore owner is on record stating that many of these books are being bought up by the hundreds and shipped to Langley.

This second form of censorship is taking place unnoticed by the public, only a few researchers are aware of it. What follows is a short list of some of the books that are now disappearing and the results of searching the Advanced Book Exchange. For those, not familiar with Advanced Book Exchange it is a site for all independent bookstores worldwide to list their stock.

The Plot to Seize the White House—Archer-1972---2 copies available - $100 and $175

Martin Bormann: Nazi In Exile—Manning—1981—3 copies available $175 to $388

Secret Agenda---Hunt---1991---2 copies---$100 to $150.

Trial of the Octopus -- Goddard ---1993---$87 to $750

The History of Standard Oil Company—Tarbell---1966(last printing)--$135 to $950

The Secret Society—Anthony Cave Brown—none available

All Honorable Men—Martin---none available

Secret Man---Dux---1996—9 available $70 to $125

A Century of War—Engdahl—none available

Tragedy and Hope—Quigley---both printings---14 available $50 to $250

The Third Option—Shackley—1981—none available

This writer has a copy of Secret Agenda that he purchased about four years ago for less than $20. When I first started writing my book, both Bormann and All Honorable Men were widely available for less than thirty dollars. Tragedy and Hope was for a long time unavailable for less than $300. The printer broke the plates to prevent further distribution. However, it has since undergone a second printing, but only after a lawsuit by the author. The Secret Society has been to the printer for seven times, only to have the printing run canceled. It is the third part of the author’s study of Bill Donovan’s life and his role in the OSS. The reader should note that many of these books were printed in the 1990s. All of the books above are regarded as classics by experts in the field and were widely circulated and sold.

The list above is only a partial list of books that this writer has found to be unavailable. What was a trickle four and half years ago when I first started writing my book is fast turning into a torrent. Books dealing with the darker side of the CIA and America’s right wing association with fascism are disappearing at an alarming rate from the shelves of libraries. This form of censorship is going unnoticed by the public. This Orwellian nightmare is occurring today. If allowed to continue in a few short years the library shelves will be barren of factual works that took dedicated writers years to research while incriminating files from the government archives can be burned.

From a very poorly designed website

Dunno about anyone else but this makes me wanna grab a gun and head to the hills.
 
Well I think this is fucking mental but doesn't look as if anybody else gives a toss.

I suppose the bbc website or the Guardian has to do a piece on it before anybody takes note :(
 
*IF* that's for real, it is disturbing. Especially when you consider the fact that ex-Nazis were heavily recruited by the CIA after the war.

But is it for real?

Doesn't the US have copyright libraries like UK has? Not a rhetorical question - if it does and the books are verifiably disappearing, then something odd is definitely going on.
 
Idris2002 said:
But is it for real?


Why do you think this is not for real?

If you go to the advanced book exchange website which describes itself as thus ...."Abebooks is the world's largest online marketplace for new, used, rare and out-of-print books. Abebooks showcases over 70 million books listed by independent booksellers from around the world." It has 1047 titles by Jules Archer and not one "Plot to seize the white house"
 
DoUsAFavour said:
Why do you think this is not for real?

If you go to the advanced book exchange website which describes itself as thus ...."Abebooks is the world's largest online marketplace for new, used, rare and out-of-print books. Abebooks showcases over 70 million books listed by independent booksellers from around the world." It has 1047 titles by Jules Archer and not one "Plot to seize the white house"


http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=jules+archer
 
Idris2002 said:
I read somewhere else, I think in one of Studs Terkel's books, that there was some kind of anti-FDR coup plot at one point in the 1930s.

But it came across as more Eoin O'Duffy than Adolf H.

Could this be it?
 
I'm trying to find contact details for "Hawthorn Books", they are based in New York. Any help would be appreciated.
 
Surely the vast majority of books from the seventies are now out of print and difficult to track down? Even if it was a bestseller at the time, if it's popularity quickly waned then it would be hard to find copies 35 years later. I'm sure if you selected any given random book from that era you'd find it was expensive to get hold of.
 
Brainaddict said:
Surely the vast majority of books from the seventies are now out of print and difficult to track down? Even if it was a bestseller at the time, if it's popularity quickly waned then it would be hard to find copies 35 years later. I'm sure if you selected any given random book from that era you'd find it was expensive to get hold of.


So out of 1047 books written by Jules Archer listed on that 2nd hand book flogging site not one is "The plot to seize the White House". Are you not a teensy weensy suspicious?

Or are you using this as another dig?
 
DoUsAFavour said:
So out of 1047 books written by Jules Archer listed on that 2nd hand book flogging site not one is "The plot to seize the White House". Are you not a teensy weensy suspicious?

Or are you using this as another dig?
It was a point I wanted to make, not a 'dig'. The paranoia of that assumption will not do anything to convince me that the first part of the post isn't paranoid.
 
You might be better off looking The Revolt of the Conservatives by George Wolfskill, which it seems is where much of the material Archer used originally came from.

edit: according to Hans Schmidt in his Maverick Marine: General Smedley D.Butler and the Contradictions of American Military History*Archers's book is an "undocumented secondary account".
 
Brainaddict said:
It was a point I wanted to make, not a 'dig'. The paranoia of that assumption will not do anything to convince me that the first part of the post isn't paranoid.

Find a bestselling book from the 70's that cannot be found for sale on t'internet then you have an arguement.

If not then what you have said is groundless as I could find thousands of books written in the 70's that are still easily availible today.
 
ONly just seen the thread. I was aware of the comments made in 'The Corporation' but hadn't heard all of this. Cheers ill have a look!
 
Brainaddict said:
It was a point I wanted to make, not a 'dig'. The paranoia of that assumption will not do anything to convince me that the first part of the post isn't paranoid.


Hardly paranoid is it 'mate'.
 
Who was it said that if Amerikkka ever turned fascist, it's fascism would be called '100% Americanism'?

Anyway, we shouldn't assume that just because a book is unavailable on the market, and many others from the same era or by the same author are, that there is a sinister reason for it.

Contrary to what its worshippers believe, the market does not always provide. There shouldn't be anything surprising about market failures.
 
Idris2002 said:
Anyway, we shouldn't assume that just because a book is unavailable on the market, and many others from the same era or by the same author are, that there is a sinister reason for it.

Then please provide us with names of books that were bestsellers in their day that are not availible now.

Also can you find another book by Archer that is unavailiable.

If you can't then that statement needs to be taken back.
 
Ah, but what if this is the one case of a book being unavailable?

Then I'd hardly be able to find other examples of same, would I?

Anyway, why would the secret shadow government want to buy up all these texts? Their sock puppet is already in the White House - the coup has already happened.
 
Well, the publishers went out of business soon after the book was published - so the remainder might well have been pulped to meet their debts. Without knowing exactly how many were originally printed and sold you've just guessing really.
 
butchersapron said:
Well, the publishers went out of business soon after the book was published.

It's hard to believe they would keep the rights to the books when they have gone bust. I'm certain the rights of their published would of been flogged on.
 
Oh, looky here, it's in the British Library Integrated Catalogue

Which you can see for yourself by entering the title here (Search the Integrated Catalogue, use Advanced Search, enter the exact title, search by Word from title and say "yes" to Exact phrase?.)
 
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