Farewell to the old Victoria Line trains

[teuchter]

Over the past few weeks it's seemed that the old Victoria Line trains are well on their way to becoming the exception rather than the rule. There are quite a lot of the new ones in service now.

So I've been taking some photos of the old trains before they all disappear.

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[teuchter]

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[strung out]

how old are those trains?

 

[dlx1]

Nice set of photos there.

 

[tarannau]

I'd don't mind the new trains, but they don't seem quite as trusty as those Victoria faithfuls. I've been on two of the clean new ones and they've had to go to some kind of - I shit you not - reboot procedure; something that seems to consist of turning all the lights off, powering down... a worrying little wait and then starting up quite slowly, all to a hesitant soundtrack of embarrassed driver. Thankfully I've been no more inconvenienced than that.

 

[lang rabbie]

how old are those trains?

It is officially the "1967 stock" so I suppose most of it is indeed 43 years old, although I think some didn't start service until the Victoria Line was extended to Brixton in 1970.

Although at the time of the refurbishment in the early 1990s, I regretted the loss of the original stylish all metal livery, it has to be said that the revamped trains have been amazingly reliable.

 

[teuchter]

I'd like to see some photos of the original interiors.

 

[lang rabbie]

I'd like to see some photos of the original interiors.

See here and here and here

 

[Lord Camomile]

Man, I'd fogotten those coil things with the ball on the end sticking out the ceiling

Not sure if I ever got to the point where I could reach 'em

 

[teuchter]

I'd always assumed the circular lights at the carriage ends were part of the original design, but looking at those photos obviously not. Likewise the fan/vent things in the ceiling.

 

[Citizen66]

Victoria Line Fact: It is the only line apart from Waterloo and City whose journey consists of always being underground.

 

[cybertect]

The pre-refurb design of '67 Stock was one of my LU favourites, though it was pipped slightly by the 1973 Stock for the Piccadilly Line for elegance.

 

[davesgcr]

Very stylish and silvery 60's (though a bit bleak) , when built - the refurb in the 80's has lasted well. The family remains alive on the Bakerloo line.

(the scrapping takes place in Rotherham incidentally - their last trip is up north on a lorry)

 

[joustmaster]

I don't understand how they have managed to make the new ones hotter than the old ones.

 

[blossie33]

I use the Victoria line to go to work but I rarely get on a new train - maybe they aren't using them much in the early mornings?

I'm sort of sorry the old ones are going - they have been running up and down that line since the year I left school ;-)
I don't think the new ones are any better, they seem more spacious inside but that's only because the seats are narrower (and not so comfortable in my opinion). With all the money spent I expected something better really - not quite sure in what way though.

Now, the new London Overground East London line trains........they are great!!

 

[fogbat]

Transport Police missed a chance there, to nick teuchter as a suspected terrorist

 

[gabi]

The new ones are excruciatingly hot. Hard to believe they've actually managed to make them even more uncomfortable.

 

[Plumdaff]

The new trains are more spacious however the seats appear to have no padding whatsoever and are very uncomfortable. The new ones are far more spacious and I'm sure help with capacity issues - just please, put some foam in the seats!

 

[teuchter]

Transport Police missed a chance there, to nick teuchter as a suspected terrorist

It's not the first time. Amateurs.

 

[teuchter]

The new ones are excruciatingly hot. Hard to believe they've actually managed to make them even more uncomfortable.

The new trains are more spacious however the seats appear to have no padding whatsoever and are very uncomfortable. The new ones are far more spacious and I'm sure help with capacity issues - just please, put some foam in the seats!

I haven't noticed them being particularly hot but then I don't usually travel in the rush hour. I agree about the seats though.

I think the new trains are a bit quieter (less of that shrieking sound when they are at speed) which is probably better for everyone's hearing.

 

[Citizen66]

Summertime doesn't generally help regarding heat either, I find.

 

[hipipol]

odd really to have spent the wedge removing reliable if old stock when the cash would have been much better spent doing something about the circle/hammersmith &C/Met/District, ie the Underground as opposed to tube stock

Longtime since I did the run out to Rickmansworth on the Met but I was shaken to shit at speed, its the same stock only MUCH older now, fuck knows what its like
Contrast with the ultra comfy Chiltern Railway over the same stretch of line (tho diff actual tracks I know - continous welded for the mainline so will always be smoother - why LT dont do that on the outer lines I have no clue)

Though I kinda miss their old bone rattlers.....

 

[Bungle73]

odd really to have spent the wedge removing reliable if old stock when the cash would have been much better spent doing something about the circle/hammersmith &C/Met/District, ie the Underground as opposed to tube stock

Longtime since I did the run out to Rickmansworth on the Met but I was shaken to shit at speed, its the same stock only MUCH older now, fuck knows what its like
Contrast with the ultra comfy Chiltern Railway over the same stretch of line (tho diff actual tracks I know - continous welded for the mainline so will always be smoother - why LT dont do that on the outer lines I have no clue)

Though I kinda miss their old bone rattlers.....

They've got new trains coming into service on the Met Line right now, and the Circle, H&C and District later; air conditioned ones at that.

 

[teuchter]

New S-stock for the circle/H&C/Met etc -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_S_Stock

 

[hipipol]

New S-stock for the circle/H&C/Met etc -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_S_Stock

ACE!!!!!!!

With our offices moving deeper into the Heart Of Babylon - ie Liverpool Street - I look forward to using these!!!

 

[davesgcr]

Track on the Met /Circle is really rough riding - short rail section in the tunnels with fishplate bolts / joints - plus pounding it gets each day , plus the underlying clay strata - the new trains look great and will ride better (but they are sort of known as "S" stock - as in seatless...)

 

[lolo]

The new ones are very hot indeed and also there is a problem with the sensors that think something is obstructing the doors when there isn’t anything, I’ve been kicked off 2 trains recently where this just couldn’t be fixed, rubbish

 

[DJWrongspeed]

The new ones are very hot indeed and also there is a problem with the sensors that think something is obstructing the doors when there isn’t anything, I’ve been kicked off 2 trains recently where this just couldn’t be fixed, rubbish

They are really hot that's for sure, a problem exacerbated by the victoria line being all underground. It makes me livid. They are presumably using more energy than the last lot , dumb, what a design fkup.

If I have enough 'angry old man time' I might try and get a response out of the Victoria line.

 

[teuchter]

If I have enough 'angry old man time' I might try and get a response out of the Victoria line.

Are you going to stand in the station and shout at it? I've tried this but it just ignores me, just sits there and looks long, thin and metal like it always does

 

[davesgcr]

Gerry Fiennes - one of the best ever railway managers said he once kicked a recalcitrant electric train on the Shenfield Line to get it going - it worked - I dont reccomend in todays environment.