Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[T & P]

Yet again showing how utterly backwards this thinking is.

Should we have cities designed for people? No, cars must have priority, everyone else must act according to the needs of traffic.

Mental.

It's not a question of priority at all. It's a question of accepting that all type of road users should try to adhere to a set of rules designed for safety, rather than with a sense of entitlement in mind.

Last I checked, cars are not allowed to ride in the pavement, and must adhere to travelling on the carriageway only, while pedestrians have the pavement all to themselves (or sometimes shared with cyclists) to travel safely from vehicles on the road. It is not backwards or oppressive in any way to suggest that on those occasions when a pedestrian needs to leave the pavement and cross the carriageway, they should look before doing so, instead of behaving as if drivers (or Tesla computers) are granted X-ray vision by God Almighty so pedestrians don't need to concern themselves with such trivialities as checking for incoming traffic before they suddenly materialise on the carriageway between two parked vans so nobody could see them until they merrily step onto the road.

 

[liquidindian]

they suddenly materialise on the carriageway between two parked vans

You're going too fast.

 

[Spymaster]

Seriously, listen to this. Tesla are nowhere near having self driving cars and are basically a fraudulent company.

This is bollocks.

Listen to what the guy says between -35.52 and -35.10; and then listen to what he says from -26.47 for aboout 20 waffly seconds.

 

[edcraw]

This is bollocks.

Listen to what the guy says between -35.52 and -35.10; and then listen to what he says from -26.47 for aboout 20 waffly seconds.

Glad you listened! You’ll have to break it down for me though - is this the boring company bit? That’s obviously a shit idea and a complete failure.

 

[Spymaster]

Glad you listened! You’ll have to break it down for me though - is this the boring company bit?

No. It's completely contradictory though.

 

[platinumsage]

Another unashamed anti-car propaganda failure then. This thread really hasn't delivered.

 

[maomao]

pedestrians have the pavement all to themselves

Except when there's fucking cars on it.

 

[platinumsage]

Which of these is the most human-centric welcoming environment for people, including pedestrians?

 

[liquidindian]

I'm going with the buses over the fiction.

 

[T & P]

You're going too fast.

They're being idiots.

 

[T & P]

Except when there's fucking cars on it.

Which affects about 0.0001% of pavement space in the UK.

 

[edcraw]

This fella really isn’t the smartest… Reckon it’s platinumsage

 

[maomao]

Which affects about 0.0001% of pavement space in the UK.

That's not even true in London where it's actually 'illegal*' to park on the pavement.

*Illegal as in even if someone is arsed to give you a ticket you can normally get out of paying just by contesting it.

 

[platinumsage]

This fella really isn’t the smartest… Reckon it’s platinumsage

Why is he not smart? Is it his accent?

 

[edcraw]

Why is he not smart? Is it his accent?

The fact he’s being filmed whilst using his phone and driving isn’t a great start - not really surprised you didn’t spot that tbh.

 

[platinumsage]

The fact he’s being filmed whilst using his phone and driving isn’t a great start - not really surprised you didn’t spot that tbh.

Why do you think he's driving? No doubt the van is propelled using a tow dolly, common in the movie industry for filming scenes in moving vehicles.

 

[edcraw]

Why do you think he's driving? No doubt the van is propelled using a tow dolly, common in the movie industry for filming scenes in moving vehicles.

Back on top form - well done!

 

[liquidindian]

They're being idiots.

So what? Slow down.

 

[T & P]

So what? Slow down.

Or they can simply cross the road at designated places to avoid any mishaps, instead of thinking the world revolves among them.

The sooner we start to educate people away from the breathtakingly stupid and appalling concept that pedestrians should not need to exercise caution or use common sense when crossing a road because the burden of responsibility should fall squarely on the other party, the more lives will be saved.

Should trains slow down to 5 mph at every single level crossing too, lest a pedestrian wishes to exercise their wish to walk across transport highways without bothering to check for incoming traffic as so many of them already do on roads? And if not, why?

 

[edcraw]

So many shit drivers outing themselves in this thread.

 

[liquidindian]

An interesting opinion for sure. The US’s jaywalking laws target people of colour. They should be abolished

So many shit drivers outing themselves in this thread.

Curious if it's some kind of false flag operation. It fits the thread either way.

 

[maomao]

The sooner we bring jaywalking legislation to this country, the more lives will be saved.

Doesn't work in the US where despite jaywalking laws the rate of pedestrian deaths is far higher. It just increases driver entitlement.

 

[maomao]

This is what the car wankers want:

Grieving Mother Faces 36 Months In Jail For Jaywalking After Son Is Killed By Hit-And-Run Driver

We need to start holding prosecutors accountable for bringing unjust charges like those just brought against an Atlanta mother -- even if they may technically be legally permissible.

www.huffpost.com

Grieving mothers locked up for longer than the drunk drivers that kill their children.

 

[platinumsage]

We have a two-tier system in this country. Jaywalking on the railway = jail.

Havant woman jailed for 70 days for trespassing at Bedhampton railway station

A WOMAN has been jailed after trespassing on a railway more than 50 times.

www.portsmouth.co.uk

 

[liquidindian]

I bet you could walk on the railway and not get the jail.

 

[kabbes]

There’s absolutely no way that Level 5 self-driving is anything close to five years away. I’m not convinced it is as close as 50 years away. And Teslas? Teslas are still absolutely shit at self-driving, e.g. they’ll still occasionally swerve towards oncoming traffic even on basic roads, let alone deal with anything genuinely complex.

 

[edcraw]

there’s something about cars that seems to really mess some folk up!

 

[Elpenor]

Are the drivers all on steroids round there?

There is a passing space in the parking bays either side just needs one of them to yield. How would they get on in the countryside where plenty of lanes are only the width of one car?

 

[edcraw]

Are the drivers all on steroids round there?

There is a passing space in the parking bays either side just needs one of them to yield. How would they get on in the countryside where plenty of lanes are only the width of one car?

Macho status bollocks - so much of it about.

 

[teuchter]

Should trains slow down to 5 mph at every single level crossing too, lest a pedestrian wishes to exercise their wish to walk across transport highways without bothering to check for incoming traffic as so many of them already do on roads? And if not, why?

Really tricky question.