England vs USA

[Obnoxiousness]

England vs USA

Saturday, 12th June 2010, kick off 7:30pm in Rustenburg.

Normally I'd be quite confident about England wiping the floor with the Americans, but they've been improving somewhat.

Although I think Lennon will be a nightmare for their sluggish defenders and they will struggle to defend against Ashely Cole and Glen Johnson.

But they have Donovan.

 

[Diamond]

Should be a proper good game.

The USA are better than most people like to admit.

 

[Numbers]

Perfect day time for a World Cup opener too (not whole WC obv') but a Sat eve' after a long hot day - BBQ, Beers, Fuutball =

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Should be a proper good game.

The USA are better than most people like to admit.

Aye, already mentioned this in the other thread, but i can see dempsey troubling a few of our defenders...they seem well organised too, not a one man team or anything.

 

[Lord Camomile]

they seem well organised too, not a one man team or anything.

Unlike...?

 

[hammerntongues]

Spectre at right back , Johnson and Lennon down the right , have faith

 

[kained&able]

is that an intensional misspelling as every winger in existence manages to ghost past him?

I reckon this game will be a scrappy 2-1 victory without ever looking in doubt and everyone will be saying we are shit afterwards.


dave

 

[Dr. Furface]

Recently they've been playing about as well/badly as England. They played in S Africa last season in that tournament and managed to beat Spain - also led Brazil 2-0 in the final before losing - so they shouldn't be underestimated. A draw wouldn't be a bad result for either side.

I'm looking forward to watching it at the Hammersmith Apollo in megascreen HD!

 

[kained&able]

confederations cup doesn't count! Practically a friendly tourney.


dave

 

[Lord Camomile]

Shut up, otherwise we can't claim Le Tournoi!

 

[JimW]

They are a decent side, your Yanks, but I reckon they'll actually be right up our street and we'll muller them - much better than starting against either Algeria or Slovenia.

 

[kained&able]

Shut up, otherwise we can't claim Le Tournoi!

didn't we lose in the final to brazil? Despite that by the end of it we were going to win the world cup.


dave

 

[Lord Camomile]

didn't we lose in the final to brazil?

We lost the final game to Brazil but it was a simple group round-robin and we'd already won it at that point, having beaten France and Italy who Brazil only drew with.

Fookin' championes

 

[Dr. Furface]

confederations cup doesn't count! Practically a friendly tourney.

The final was actually a really good game and you could tell both sides wanted to win. Brazil don't really get to play 'friendly' games because every country wants their scalp - especialy in a final. USA wanted to win that tourny and Brazil didn't want the shame of losing to them.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Spectre at right back , Johnson and Lennon down the right , have faith

Ah, that is encouraging.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_sp_so_ne/soc_wcup_us_defense

The U.S. struggled in the back last week in a 4-2 loss to the Czech Republic and a 2-1 victory over Turkey, and several players have said the team must improve its defense as a whole.

"We'll be working in training as a unit. We'll be watching video of the games to see where we went wrong, whether it be positionally or individually," Spector said Wednesday before the team's second training session in South Africa.

Heskey will probably get a hat-trick then.

 

[Maggot]

Should be a proper good game.

The USA are better than most people like to admit.

Recently they've been playing about as well/badly as England. They played in S Africa last season in that tournament and managed to beat Spain - also led Brazil 2-0 in the final before losing - so they shouldn't be underestimated. A draw wouldn't be a bad result for either side.

I'm looking forward to watching it at the Hammersmith Apollo in megascreen HD!

Yes the USA shouldn't be underestimated. In the last World Cup they didn't get out of a tough group, but drew with the eventual winners.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

I'm sure Capello will not take them lightly, and has already highlighted their weaknesses to his squad.

I personally think that the game will be won in the second half. Even if the USA lead at the break, England have developed a talent for good second half performances under Capello.

 

[London_Calling]

Spectre at right back , Johnson and Lennon down the right , have faith

Is Spector right or left back for the USA?

 

[Obnoxiousness]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Spector

Says on that page that he is the right back... so he will be up against whoever is on placed the left wing in front of Ashley Cole.

Perhaps Joe Cole? SWP? James Milner? Steven Gerrard?

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Would hate to have Gerrard on the left.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Steven Gerrard on the left drifts over to the right exposing Ashley Cole.

But I seem to remember Joe Cole being a great left winger for England before.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

James

Johnson | Ferdinand | Terry | Cole

Barry

Lennon | Lampard | Gerrard | Wright-Philips or Joe Cole

Rooney

This sort of formation would cause the some chaos for the USA defenders, I think. SWP for speed, or maybe Joe Cole?
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[London_Calling]

Barry won't be fit. It's the thus far ill-starred partnership of Gerrard and Lampard.

Has to now be Crouch with Rooney up front.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Oh sorry, I forgot about Barry.

 

[iROBOT]

USA are the new Germany, organised, super fit with stamina. They grind the opposition down.

We're (possibly) fucked....

 

[TrippyLondoner]

USA are the new Germany, organised, super fit with stamina. They grind the opposition down.

We're (possibly) fucked....

i wouldn't go that far.....

 

[iROBOT]

i wouldn't go that far.....

I'm in "one of those" moods...(blame Cesc/barca...)

Still worth remembering my post for future reference (I think it'll be more true in the next WC)....

 

[StanSmith]

England 2-1 US of A

Crouchie to score in the last 5 minutes to end Andy Townsends constant droaning on about us being disjointed

 

[Obnoxiousness]

A draw would be good. But honestly, I am hoping that England slay them with a goal-fest.

 

[mack]

All that matters in tournament football is to never lose your first game.

1-1 draw