Egypt anti-government protests grow
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Mubarak & co seem to have a very strong police state. Stronger than Tunisia had. And Egypt got good at holding elections that appeared not quite as much of a sham as those in Tunisia. Another major factor is US aid. The US would keep the bucks flowing only if an uprising resulted in a gov that was acceptable to it. If the resistance is purely secular, the aid would probably keep coming.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
FFS - stuff kicking off is not anonymous bigging their censorious arse up. This is not politics. Do you want to talk about Egpyt? About the social conditions? About what's actually going on?
dylans
overlord of all acorns
This is about more than anon. Today is a national day of protest and demonstrations are called across the country.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/egypt-day-revolution-protests
Collected twitter tweets on the day of protest can be viewed live here
http://www.polethecon.nl/?p=collected-tweets-and-background-on-egypts-january-25-protests
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
People protesting in the streets and setting fire to themselves does not = kicking off?
Stuff is happening in Egypt. Putting it under the anonymous banner is to spit in the faces of those out there doing stuff. Ir's massively insulting, high handed and frankly mad.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I fucking know it is. That's what i'm saying.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Thank you dylans, was about to post that up.
Here's one from earlier, police waiting for protests. I quite want the truck on the right, but that's by the by really.
Butchers, unless you are about to get on a plane sharpish and go on the streets of Egypt....well some people like to actually *do* something, y'know.
Here's one from earlier, police waiting for protests. I quite want the truck on the right, but that's by the by really.
Butchers, unless you are about to get on a plane sharpish and go on the streets of Egypt....well some people like to actually *do* something, y'know.
People protesting in the streets and setting fire to themselves does not = kicking off?
Your opening post was an anonymous flier and an unrelated link.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
It's tomorrow that is "the day of revolution".
However, having seen the egyptian cops and security forces close up, the day of "the army and police cracking down very hard indeed" is prolly more likely. Due to the MB situation (as I understand it) and similar islamist groups that never haad as much strength in tunisia, the egyptian state is way more authoritarian and brutal.
This ain't gonna be good
However, having seen the egyptian cops and security forces close up, the day of "the army and police cracking down very hard indeed" is prolly more likely. Due to the MB situation (as I understand it) and similar islamist groups that never haad as much strength in tunisia, the egyptian state is way more authoritarian and brutal.
This ain't gonna be good
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's today mate.
The MB's are being alternately suffocated by the regime embracing them and destroying their credibility as a result and outright crackdown. The same tactics the regime is employing for anyone with any forces.
The MB's are being alternately suffocated by the regime embracing them and destroying their credibility as a result and outright crackdown. The same tactics the regime is employing for anyone with any forces.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Backgrounders to Egypt from Middle East Report:
The Liquidation of Egypt’s Illiberal Experiment
The Dynamics of Egypt’s Elections
The Liquidation of Egypt’s Illiberal Experiment
The Dynamics of Egypt’s Elections
dylans
overlord of all acorns
It's tomorrow that is "the day of revolution".
However, having seen the egyptian cops and security forces close up, the day of "the army and police cracking down very hard indeed" is prolly more likely. Due to the MB situation (as I understand it) and similar islamist groups that never haad as much strength in tunisia, the egyptian state is way more authoritarian and brutal.
This ain't gonna be good
Do keep up. Today is tomorrow
(and though I agree the Egyptian state is pretty rough on demonstrations, it's not like you to be so pessimistic.)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
"Hope that Jan. 25 Demonstrations May Mark a New Direction for Egypt" - yes, definitely unrelated link, that.
Sorry the flier was so big, i'm no good at resizing stuff
I apologise for being tetchy earlier. Doing too many things at once and don't like anonymous.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
http://25jan.crowdmap.com/main
Meant to be a map of the current sitch in Egypt with arrests and that marked on it.
Meant to be a map of the current sitch in Egypt with arrests and that marked on it.
"Hope that Jan. 25 Demonstrations May Mark a New Direction for Egypt" - yes, definitely unrelated link, that.
Sorry the flier was so big, i'm no good at resizing stuff
Unrelated to anonymous.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Unrelated to anonymous.
You have all the info you need on the flier to get started on that!
The link was to kick off with some background info, for people that don't know about the demos and that.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Then you haven't looked into it properly or the reasons behind the position. IRC thataway >>>>>>
Censorship is historically one of the first things to go when govts go bad, and is also a big waving flag that a govt is repressing or thinking of repressing its people, or is likely to do so (or do so more in the near future)
Is not just about the right to look at kitteh pr0n, nor is it 'just 4chan'
Censorship is historically one of the first things to go when govts go bad, and is also a big waving flag that a govt is repressing or thinking of repressing its people, or is likely to do so (or do so more in the near future)
Is not just about the right to look at kitteh pr0n, nor is it 'just 4chan'
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Yes there is a lot of bandwagon hopping by some of the people involved, but that is not all there is to it by a long shot. Any movement that inclusive will ahve a huge variety of people and involvement levels.
Remember you are coming at it from a position of someone living in a fairly unrestricted country, censorship wise. How would you feel if it were different?
Remember you are coming at it from a position of someone living in a fairly unrestricted country, censorship wise. How would you feel if it were different?
I'm not opposed to anonymous. I just don't see why they're piggy backing on the back of everything in the headlines to the extent that they get a heads up in an op about a matter completely unrelated to them. The kudos goes to the folk on the streets risking their lives and liberty; not bored youth in western bedrooms using some software and at relatively low risk of Egypt's security services to come knocking at their door.
Perhaps i do. But answer me a question. Is 'anonymous' involved in orchestrating or taking part in the Egyptian uprising on the streets in Egypt? If yes then I apologise and stand corrected. If no then perhaps the anonymous action deserves a thread of its own and this should be for what's going on in Egypt.
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