"Economics for a crowded planet" needed?!?

[Fruitloop]

FL, I have already discussed this many times on this forum, starting with this thread and in particular in a "debate" with BA. If memory serves something about "convincing one on planned economy" or some such thread but also elsewhere. Just search under my nick...

K, I know: you just like trolling...

In the stuff about power re: the Balkans. It was interesting.

Kind of reminded me tangentially of the Japanese experience of capitalism, cf Ollman's 'Why the Emperor needs the Yakuza'.

 

[gorski]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254112&highlight=socialist+economy

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=204924&highlight=convince+planned+economy&page=3 - post 92, for instance but the earlier one, too...

 

[Knotted]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254112&highlight=socialist+economy

Post 18 was very good in my opinion, although butchers was right to say you didn't answer his question.

 

[gorski]

Did the commodity 'wage labour' exist?

The market didn't exist then in yugoslvia? Was there a stock market?

@Butcher: no and no.

 

[Fruitloop]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=254112&highlight=socialist+economy

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=204924&highlight=convince+planned+economy&page=3 - post 92, for instance but the earlier one, too...

OK, cheers, that makes perfect sense.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So, economics for a crowded planet, then.

I would have thought that the starting point has to be a system that is not predicated on growth in economic output.

 

[gorski]

Harvey point from his Marx studies. Indeed. If it is left like that - we're screwed.

Revolutionaries count on it, though. Because crisis points are looming then. Just a matter of when.

However, we have learnt better before and managed to change and manage our silly ways differently...

So, we'll see...