dumb republicans on the streets of Glasgow.

[nacho novo]

because chucking bigoted comments like that around makes you a bigoted cunt.

Thats no case for your arguement, bigotry lives just as much on the left as it does on the right. All those who hate Rangers for example are equally as bigotted as those who despise the hoops/hibs. Live with it, and deal with it while you're at it too.

Glass houses? Aye, allright.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Get oyt of this websoyt, noy!

Fuck me it looks like he's found out what the orange hanky in the left back pocket means.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Fuck me it looks like he's found out what the orange hanky in the left back pocket means.

Nah, it looks like St Ian was wearing an orange hanky in his left back pocket (that or he's just found Jr going down on a Great Dane) !!!

One for the "up the arse" thread?

 

[nacho novo]

Well no. Republicanism is based on anti-secterianism.

Well yes, I'm afraid. Only last week republicans attacked a house in the Waterside of Londonderry, AGAIN. Merely 1 example, need I go on?

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Nah, it looks like St Ian was wearing an orange hanky in his left back pocket (that or he's just found Jr going down on a Great Dane) !!!

One for the "up the arse" thread?

Oh yes!

'Save Ulster from Sodomeeeeeeeee --- Mmmmmmm that don't feel too bad actually'

 

[hibee]

Thats no case for your arguement, bigotry lives just as much on the left as it does on the right. All those who hate Rangers for example are equally as bigotted as those who despise the hoops/hibs. Live with it, and deal with it while you're at it too.

Glass houses? Aye, allright.

I hate Rangers because they're followed by a bunch of rightwing cunts like yourself, and I don't particularly enjoy hearing about them being up to their knees in my anscestors blood. That's not bigotry, it's a perfectly good reason.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Well yes, I'm afraid. Only last week republicans attacked a house in the Waterside of Londonderry, AGAIN. Merely 1 example, need I go on?

Don't know about the situation but I can't remember anything in a republican manifesto attacking protestants.
No doubt there are neds who'll attack innocent people. Happens everywhere.
Just this week In Motherwell there was a spate of attacks resulting in four arrested, one on an attempted murder charge, and four hospitalised.

All because of racing pigeons.

Happens all the time. Live with it. Deal with it. Eh?

 

[nacho novo]

Happens everywhere.
Just this week In Motherwell there was a spate of attacks resulting in four arrested, one on an attempted murder charge, and four hospitalised.

All because of racing pigeons.

Happens all the time. Live with it. Deal with it. Eh?

My Grandda used to breed and race pigeons, he never attacked anyone and no one ever attacked him. If you wish to attempt to cloud the issue with your own republican agenda referring to one-off acts of violence rather than sustained campaigns of naked secterianism, then carry-on. Although I suspect you're fully aware of continuing acts of violence aimed at the Protestants of North Belfast and those in the Waterside.

By-the-way, I've lived with and dealt with it. Thanks very much.

 

[cathal marcs]

The attacks on folk in the fountain estate by Derry youth is a disgrace no doubt about it. What organisations orchastrated the attacks nacho?

 

[Nigel]

Well yes, I'm afraid. Only last week republicans attacked a house in the Waterside of Londonderry, AGAIN. Merely 1 example, need I go on?

Was/Is this not a propaganda excercise by the UDA?
Sort of followed some of this.

Game playing over dialogue with INLA/IRSP's and UDA.

Could be wrong.
Elaborate if you would!!!

 

[Nigel]

Waterside can mean the south side of the Foil (Consideredd Unionist), or an Estate the which has a Nationalist community. Am I right in this?

 

[nacho novo]

You probably know as well as I do cathal that no groups claim responsibility for 'every day' N.I. street violence, and I'm talking about both sides of the divide, by-the-way.

I'm not sure I follow, Nigel. I can assure you that the attacks carried-out by republicans on ordinary Protestants in various areas of Ulster is very real.

 

[nacho novo]

I hate Rangers because

"Blah, blah de blah"

You're obviously living in denial.

Left-wing bigot! (correct me if i'm wrong like).

 

[Nigel]

You probably know as well as I do cathal that no groups claim responsibility for 'every day' N.I. street violence, and I'm talking about both sides of the divide, by-the-way.

I'm not sure I follow, Nigel. I can assure you that the attacks carried-out by republicans on ordinary Protestants in various areas of Ulster is very real.

Attacks carried out by bigots in the catholic and nationalist communities probably yes.

I doubt any progressive Republican group is involved in indiscriminate attacks on Protestants. In fact from what I've seen they go out of their way to do completely the opposite. Just imagine if Fianna Fail type organisation, or Youth defence held sway in these areas.

If you have evidence to the contrary I would be very interested to hear it!!!!!

 

[nacho novo]

I doubt any progressive Republican group is involved in indiscriminate attacks on Protestants. In fact from what I've seen they go out of their way to do completely the opposite.

woooo, say what? progressive republican group, whats that? Who do you think 'controls' the republican areas where these attacks originate from ie; the bogside, fianna fail? Lets get real, I'm talking about out and out hard-line violent republicans with a clear agenda, similar to the murders of protestant farmers along the border at the height of the conflict.

Are you guys really this un-informed or are you's just fuckin' winding?

 

[geminisnake]

That the wearer is a piece of knuckle dragging shite, bigoted & hate filled to boot. C*nts the lot of them.

edited to add that i do not agree though with Republican marches in Glasgow either.

Agree with the first sentence, and the second and will add I think both sides should be stopped from marching. If you wanna march go to NI.

LOL @ KBJ

 

[Nigel]

woooo, say what? progressive republican group, whats that? Who do you think 'controls' the republican areas where these attacks originate from ie; the bogside, fianna fail? Lets get real, I'm talking about out and out hard-line violent republicans with a clear agenda, similar to the murders of protestant farmers along the border at the height of the conflict.

Are you guys really this un-informed or are you's just fuckin' winding?

There have been atrocities commited on all sides in this conflict, military conflict is something that is never romantic, especially one like this. However protestant families are protected by SF in Catholic communities, I doubt the same could be said by the DUP.

 

[bobcharge]

Quite a few key figures in the Republican movement, from the 1798 uprising to the birth of the Provisionals, have been protestant and/or British.

Regards,

Bob

 

[tollbar]

Agree with the first sentence, and the second and will add I think both sides should be stopped from marching. If you wanna march go to NI.

LOL @ KBJ

In 1988, The Rising Pheonix Republican Flute Band from Edinburgh came through to Glasgow took part in the huge demonstration to celebrate Nelson Mandelas 70th birthday, for the occasion they repainted their drums in ANC colours, and when refused permission to play their instruments by the STUC organisers as they were shitting themselves at the possible repercussions, marched at the back of the demo, whistling their repotoire in perfect time. A couple of years later The Pollock and Thornliebank RFB took part in the annual St Andrews day march against Racism. Its things like that which create a big difference between the politics of Irish republicans in scotland and the Orange whatever the knuckledragging element that republican marches undoubtedly attract. The only example of a progressive orange imput into politics I can remember hearing of was when the Cumnock miners fought the Police in the miners strike under the battlecry 'Remember 1690' I know of former RFB members now active in the SSP and other progressive scottish organisations. I dont see the equivalent coming from the other side. If some of our English based friends want to see a hatefest probably unparrelled since Nuremburg they should come to Glasgow on the first saturday in july and watch the annual Orange walk when the hangers on, besides drunks prepared to attack anything they regard as 'nationalist', include the BNP and other far right groups and black people are liable to be attacked. Yes, I dont doubt that there are sincere people in some of the lodges who believe in some of the movements founding principals regarding freedom of religion, unfortunately 200 years of being used as a tool of brit imperialism in Scotland has now lead to a debased and degraded organisation which has no overall progressive content or orientation.

On the other hand, I dont see why the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday killings should be an occasion for marching about in old brit kit rather then be a broad based memorial.

 

[pilchardman]

Correct me if I'm wrong

You're wrong.

 

[geminisnake]

If some of our English based friends want to see a hatefest probably unparrelled since Nuremburg they should come to Glasgow on the first saturday in july and watch the annual Orange walk when the hangers on, besides drunks prepared to attack anything they regard as 'nationalist', include the BNP and other far right groups and black people are liable to be attacked.

That is one of the reasons I am against marches fullstop.

My immediate familty left Glasgow when I was 18 months old, I have avoided much of it ever since because of sectarian violence. I've even stopped visiting relatives because of their bigotry

 

[nacho novo]

However protestant families are protected by SF in Catholic communities, I doubt the same could be said by the DUP.

Stop right there, if you will.

Are you serious? Could you point-out any Protestant family who lives under Shite Fein-held catholic communities with-in N.I. and bow's down to republican rule? Wise-up, if you don't mind me saying so.

Quite a few key figures in the Republican movement, from the 1798 uprising, to the birth of the Provisionals, have been protestant and/or British.

If Protestants from Ulster's past had known what their future actions in the great scheme of things would amount to, then I'm sure they would probably live their lives all over again, only differently.

Don't you know about several catholics serving with Honour as Loyalists, in recent times?

1+1=2.

 

[cathal marcs]

Stop right there, if you will.

Are you serious? Could you point-out any Protestant family who lives under Shite Fein-held catholic communities with-in N.I. and bow's down to republican rule? Wise-up, if you don't mind me saying so.



If Protestants from Ulster's past had known what their future actions in the great scheme of things would amount to, then I'm sure they would probably live their lives all over again, only differently.

Don't you know about several catholics serving with Honour as Loyalists, in recent times?

1+1=2.

My auntie from Strabane now living in Port Rush is Plymouth Brethren and is a republican obviously not militant shes a wee old lady and has to eep her vews quite. Likewise a good friend from Donegal who was a Fian and RSF member who left a few months back durin the RSF split due to the situation regarding prisoners in E4 landing in Portlaoise prison.

p.s. forgot toadd see the link you posted I know the wee small guy with ginger hair and a beard holding the Palestinian flag his oldman was an orangeman.

 

[tollbar]

Someone should remind this bloke that in the thirties that there was a protestant IRA unit based on the Shankill road. Not to forget in more recent times Ronnie Bunting of the INLA son of one of Paisleys associates.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Someone should remind this bloke that in the thirties that there was a protestant IRA unit based on the Shankill road. Not to forget in more recent times Ronnie Bunting of the INLA son of one of Paisleys associates.

Oi!!! That there is facts son. This bloke is not interested in such things.

 

[Pickman's model]

If Protestants from Ulster's past had known what their future actions in the great scheme of things would amount to, then I'm sure they would probably live their lives all over again

they certainly would - they'd not have been the bigoted bunch of right-wing wankers they have been.

 

[nacho novo]

Well what do you expect if you link to a fucking Loyalist website?

Thats as maybe, but I 1st clocked this story on a republican web-site. irish-nationalism.net to be precise.

 

[bobcharge]

If Protestants from Ulster's past had known what their future actions in the great scheme of things would amount to, then I'm sure they would probably live their lives all over again, only differently.

And that is the benefit of hind sight.

Don't you know about several catholics serving with Honour as Loyalists, in recent times?

No, please inform me.

Thats as maybe, but I 1st clocked this story on a republican web-site. irish-nationalism.net to be precise.

There is a difference between Irish republicanism and Irish nationalism.

Regards,

Bob

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Someone should remind this bloke that in the thirties that there was a protestant IRA unit based on the Shankill road.

I hadn't heard that. There was however a significant number of Belfast Protestants involved in the Republican Congress in the 1930s. The IRA physically attacked them when they turned up at the Bodenstown commemorations.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

I hadn't heard that. There was however a significant number of Belfast Protestants involved in the Republican Congress in the 1930s. The IRA physically attacked them when they turned up at the Bodenstown commemorations.

I'm surprised NI, that you hadn't heard that.
Could you give a link on the 1930's incidents.

I'm not doubting you mind. I'm asking you to do me the favour of saving me googling it 'cos I'm a lazy sod.

Thanks in advance.