Dulwich Hamlet Transfers Summer 2020
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pompeydunc
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Time for Pink Panther to do his thing with the squad - split into confirmed re-signs, incoming players and outgoings?!
baleboy_93
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T Corcoran
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Such a shame. Thought he was a decent player
Pink Panther
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Well, there doesn't appear to be anyone in those first two categories as yet!
I've included everyone who was either in our squad or out on loan at the time the season was abandoned
Unconfirmed:
Lionel Ainsworth
Diogo Barbosa
Aaron Barnes
Tom Chambers
Nyren Clunis
Jack Connors
Preston Edwards
Charlie Grainger
Connor Hunte
David Ijaha
David Kuagica
Marvin McCoy
Danny Mills
Jeffrey Monakana
Kieran Monlouis
Maliq Morris
Shamir Mullings
Richard Orlu
Christian Smith
Nathan Smith
Jamie Splatt
Aryan Tajbakhsh
Quade Taylor
Dominic Vose
Lewis White
Loans expired:
Reise Allassani
Jesse Debrah
Departures:
Ben Chapman (Ebbsfleet United)
Dylan Kearney (Hayes & Yeading)
Given that our team budget last season was based on average attendance of 2,100 plus all the associated matchday income from crowds of that size, I guess it's impossible to fix a revised budget with the possibility that we may only be allowed half that number or less in our ground. As Maidstone is the only other club in the division facing such a serious problem I find this a considerable worry.
We always seem to fare better when we retain the bulk of our squad and add just a few newcomers, so despite last season's poor performance I was hoping we could keep the best younger players with potential to grow at our club; I'd have put both Chapman and Kearney in that bracket. Chapman is a superb technical player who doesn't shirk a challenge, but typically in the modern game he's reached the age of 20/21 without actually playing much men's football. All he needs is experience and I was hoping he could gain that with us.
Kearney has a bit of the streetfighter about him and really gets stuck in. He's raw, but again I was hoping he could establish himself with us. He ought to get shedloads of goals at a lower level.
Both players have joined clubs closer to their home. I guess a lot of players will find themselves without a club, a lot of them will probably get strung along by agents desperately trying to place them somewhere in order to get their own cut. Given all the uncertainty I'm sure there will be plenty of decent players forced to accept a lower wage than last season, or unable to find a club at their previous level. Let's just hope we can identify some good ones.
Pink Panther
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Yes, he was the only one I saw reported as signing a 2 year deal last year, and of all the experienced players we brought in he was the one who undoubtedly gave us something extra IMO. Everything feels so up in the air at the moment I just don't want to take anything for granted. The club Twitter account recently wished him a happy birthday, which suggests he's likely to stay. I'm also told Michael Chambers recently posted a Twitter message hinting that he's coming back (in response to a message from Quade Taylor) although you never know whether things like that may be just banter.
pettyboy
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Lest we forget what happens when a club forgets a players' birthday
www.bbc.co.uk
Toure backs agent in 'birthday row'
Yaya Toure throws his Manchester City future into doubt by backing up his agent's claims about a lack of respect from the owners.
www.bbc.co.uk
Pink Panther
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I think Dom's game is well suited to playing at a high level abroad, he could probably get quite close to top division somewhere like Holland or Belgium. However I don't really see how it's easier to do that now than before, unless you're particularly motivated to go abroad.
pettyboy
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General upheaval throughout the football pyramid.
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hiraethified
What an absolute twat. As if the shitloads of money wasn't enough for the delicate flower.Lest we forget what happens when a club forgets a players' birthday
Toure backs agent in 'birthday row'
Yaya Toure throws his Manchester City future into doubt by backing up his agent's claims about a lack of respect from the owners.
Stuart Fordyce
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Very sad to see Kearney and Chapman leave. Two talented young players that you'd hope to build a side around. Kearney a constant nuisance and a good goalscorer. Chapman was either wasted at right back or a playmaker without support in the middle. Could have made a great number 10 playing in front of Quade and Christian Smith.
Bose's game might suit an environment like Gibraltar or Singapore: his style of football is too slow for National League South.
Bose's game might suit an environment like Gibraltar or Singapore: his style of football is too slow for National League South.
T Corcoran
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Nyren has gone. Didn't see that comingI've posted a few times on here that Mishi didn't want part of the ground naming after him. I think it's now appropriate to reveal the remainder of that conversation. Mishi was going to suggest we left something un-named at the new ground so it could be named after Nyren if he went on to break the club goals/appearances records.
Thank you for the memories and best wishes for the future Nyren.
Thank you for the memories and best wishes for the future Nyren.
AveryDave
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Realise that last Monday's result was critical in being able to finalise a plan for the playing side of things for whenever next season starts, but does anyone in the know have any steer on how it's going with regards to new players coming in or more players not coming back?
There seem to be plenty of clubs already doing or have done a lot of their business in the National South as well as the next steps down, but a few still relatively quiet like ourselves - Welling being one of them, although they've just announced that Nathan Green and Anthony Cook won't be with them next season. Feels like it could be a very delicate balance between letting certain players take up other offers whilst waiting to see the players that get displaced from higher leagues that might be available.
Ultimately, I think I just need something to take the sting out of Nyren leaving. I'd possibly even take Jacob Erskine coming back at this point (if indeed he ever really left), just to redress the balance ever so slightly...
There seem to be plenty of clubs already doing or have done a lot of their business in the National South as well as the next steps down, but a few still relatively quiet like ourselves - Welling being one of them, although they've just announced that Nathan Green and Anthony Cook won't be with them next season. Feels like it could be a very delicate balance between letting certain players take up other offers whilst waiting to see the players that get displaced from higher leagues that might be available.
Ultimately, I think I just need something to take the sting out of Nyren leaving. I'd possibly even take Jacob Erskine coming back at this point (if indeed he ever really left), just to redress the balance ever so slightly...
Moroccan Sunset
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I assume we're to take it that Gavin is staying as manager? I don't know how exactly coronavirus has made the seven months of last season and tens of thousands of wasted pounds excusable, but the prospect of watching more of the same for another seven months is about as unappealing as it gets.
Not renewing my season ticket.
Not renewing my season ticket.
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Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
you live in turin?
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
get one just to rip up in front of the dugout like the norwich fans of yore?
Pink Panther
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Yes, after a 7-1 defeat to Colchester on the first day of what turned out to be a championship winning season!
Pink Panther
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Sammy Moore is available if you prefer?
Moroccan Sunset
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I was actually hoping for Harry Wheeler.
Son of Roy
Misses BIG and RMV
I will be getting my season ticket. I will support my team even when they don't win
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Moroccan Sunset
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I will be getting my season ticket. I will support my team even when they don't win
Nothing to do with them not winning. I've been there week in, week out throughout seasons when we've been no better than average, when we've been relegated. The suggestion that I'm throwing my toys out the pram because we're not bulldozing our way through the division is completely unfair. (For what it's worth, my favourite Dulwich seasons ever were under Craig Edwards - in the first season we missed out on the play offs, in the second we finished we had our budget slashed in winter and ended up languishing in mid-table.)
I've supported DHFC since 1999. Under Burnett, Edwards and the early GR years I went week after week, regardless of our performances on the pitch, mainly because I knew it helped, in some small way, to help keep the club going, or because the poor bastards getting paid £40/50 a week to play for us might appreciate the support.
But it's different now. It's not hand-to-mouth. We're a club with huge crowds that can afford some of the best players in the division, and training three times a week. My money doesn't go towards the club's survival - it goes towards expansion and progression.
And that's fine. I understand that the higher we climb, the higher the wage bill. Promotion-winning players are more expensive, especially as we get closer to league football. Full-time training equals greater overheads. But when we stagnate for months on end, I feel my money and, more importantly, my time are being wasted.
Unlike previous years where I knew that my money helped our survival, I don't think that my money now leads to progression, nor do I think it's vital to our existence. If the club feels that last season was an acceptable return on their investment both on and off the pitch, then fine, but I don't.
I'll always support Dulwich, but my attendance isn't unconditional, particularly if I feel like my time and money are being wasted on unhappy changing rooms (for the 376748th time), players being played out of position when it makes no sense at all (for the 376748th time), and sustained and expensive underperformance.
For me, now was the time to address problems that have pervaded for a long time, but they haven't been, so I'm faced with the prospect of watching it all over again. For the first time in twenty-two seasons, I don't really want to do that. I’ll still turn up here and there, but not enough for it to make financial sense to buy a season ticket.
It's fairly clear the club had decided to stick with Gavin last season, presumably planning on reviewing at the end of the season.
Then came Covid and the planning decision got pushed back. If we had removed Gavin we'd have been advertising/recruiting for a job with a club that couldn't guarantee starting 2020/21, if planning was rejected. (We didn't have a licence to use the ground. It may have been offered, it may not. If not, I suspect the lesson from our previous spell in exile was that we aren't viable elsewhere and the club would have folded.) Not a hugely appealing prospect for candidates with alternative irons in the fire. Probably just the sort of people we'd want.
As such, it would have been difficult to start recruitment at managerial level until last week. We'd have ended up hopelessly late at starting to recruit a playing squad. (Whilst we haven't released any names, I'd be amazed if Gavin hasn't made a few offers provisional to DHFC playing in 2020/21.)
Do the club feel last season was acceptable or did they decide off pitch circumstances meant a change was impossible this close season, irrespective of what they think about how last season went?
I genuinely don't know. I can see a case that it may have been the latter though.
Then came Covid and the planning decision got pushed back. If we had removed Gavin we'd have been advertising/recruiting for a job with a club that couldn't guarantee starting 2020/21, if planning was rejected. (We didn't have a licence to use the ground. It may have been offered, it may not. If not, I suspect the lesson from our previous spell in exile was that we aren't viable elsewhere and the club would have folded.) Not a hugely appealing prospect for candidates with alternative irons in the fire. Probably just the sort of people we'd want.
As such, it would have been difficult to start recruitment at managerial level until last week. We'd have ended up hopelessly late at starting to recruit a playing squad. (Whilst we haven't released any names, I'd be amazed if Gavin hasn't made a few offers provisional to DHFC playing in 2020/21.)
Do the club feel last season was acceptable or did they decide off pitch circumstances meant a change was impossible this close season, irrespective of what they think about how last season went?
I genuinely don't know. I can see a case that it may have been the latter though.
Moroccan Sunset
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Absolutely - I get the stadium situation has made things difficult, and my original post sounds more scathing on the Directors than originally intended.
Personally, I don't think Gavin would have survived last season had it not been for a global pandemic. That's the bit I find frustrating.
I think we would still attract good candidates. Some quite high-profile names were very visibly sniffing around just after Meadow let us back in to CH and our form was fairly poor. I know we're further down the line now, and those people may not have been so keen had the application been rejected, but I don't think we'd have been short of options. That is purely speculative, mind. I just feel we're in desperate need of change in the dugout. It's the same mistakes and the same scapegoating of players when something goes wrong. I just don't like it. I don't want to do something every weekend that doesn't give me much enjoyment anymore.
Ho hum. I'll watch on with interest.
RabbleLevi
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I have some similar frustrations, for example it felt like the reasons for poor performances on the pitch/ results we’re so glaringly obvious last season. 4-7 Team changes every week, players coming and going regularly and no apparent tactic left me disappointed, and I had the feeling that with a surplus of cash due to a return of 2500+ crowds Gavin had the finances to try and fix the problems by spending on perceived better players. The core of our team (CM and CB’s were changed regularly) and we could not establish any sort of form, picking up the occasional win.
Our first season in the National South was far more exciting and although we battled all of the odds we finished strongly in the latter half of the season, hitting form when there were few team changes.
Every season is different and if Rose learns from the mistakes of last season (whether they are the ones I highlighted above or different) I suspect we can establish ourselves as tough opposition at this level. I’m not going to let a disappointing campaign put me off, it’s all part of this incredible journey after all!
