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I didn't realise he'd been there. I'm always wary of "professional" football directors who move from club to club. They often seem to be the sort of people who make their money by running companies into the ground, liquidating them, then start a new one. Some of them appear to be borderline long firm fraudsters.
Strange that this chap seems to struggle to run football clubs when he appears to have a long run of success in other businesses. He’s also just been made High Sheriff of Surrey... Shahid Azeem
 
Strange that this chap seems to struggle to run football clubs when he appears to have a long run of success in other businesses. He’s also just been made High Sheriff of Surrey... Shahid Azeem
At least his non-football background sounds credible enough. The trouble is that football clubs aren't really like other businesses and it's not unusual for successful businessmento come unstuck once they start dabbling with running football clubs. Remember Mark Goldberg (self made multi-millionaire now at Welling) bankrupting Palace in record time? Then there was Bob Laslett who spent silly money for a couple of years at Margate before realising it was a money pit.
 
At least his non-football background sounds credible enough. The trouble is that football clubs aren't really like other businesses and it's not unusual for successful businessmento come unstuck once they start dabbling with running football clubs. Remember Mark Goldberg (self made multi-millionaire now at Welling) bankrupting Palace in record time? Then there was Bob Laslett who spent silly money for a couple of years at Margate before realising it was a money pit.
Apparently this chap was a promising footballer until he suffered a career ending injury in his teens... Often see that in these types that let the heart rule the head with business sense going of the window in pursuit of success on the field...
 
Latest voting intentions according to the one informed journalist who seems to take a genuine interest in all of this. Looks like there are six clubs in the NLS Rebel Alliance.

Edited to add that it’s interesting that some clubs in our league think our fate should be determined by the NL clubs (i.e. against resolution #1), presumably because they think that will increase their chances of continuing the season.

 
Latest voting intentions according to the one informed journalist who seems to take a genuine interest in all of this. Looks like there are six clubs in the NLS Rebel Alliance.

Edited to add that it’s interesting that some clubs in our league think our fate should be determined by the NL clubs (i.e. against resolution #1), presumably because they think that will increase their chances of continuing the season.


That's 15-11 in favour of ending the season at our level. Even if all the rest want to carry on, expecting more than a third of the membership to play on until May under duress with no guarantee of any income is just not on. In practice I suspect it would lead to many clubs withdrawing from the league with dozens of results expunged, leaving asfew as 13 clubs in the North Division table.
 
Apparently this chap was a promising footballer until he suffered a career ending injury in his teens... Often see that in these types that let the heart rule the head with business sense going of the window in pursuit of success on the field...

His son played non-league and was decent enough. Last time I saw him he was sent off for swearing at the linesman, they were still called that then. Shahid also ran Guildford City for a while.

I advised the local council and Aldershot Command on elements of their WW1 commemorations so went to various events. Shahid gave the impression he'd turn up at the opening bid an envelope if it would help his networking.

To his credit, he lost a fair bit of money in Shots last administration, he's not there for the money - in the short run at least.
 
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After being knocked out of the FA Trophy yesterday Maidstone United have become the latest club to throw their weight behind the cessation of the season rather than carry on with the carry on.. Not sure of the exact figures for & against now so if any one has an update could you post?

 
Using the rather incomplete information in the Ollie Bayliss spreadsheets on his Twitter feed I reckon 10 NLN & 7 NLS clubs have showed their hand as either voting for or being likely to vote for the cessation of the league. Based on previously published grant distribution models that doesn’t much surprise me as the majority of NLN clubs ended up shortchanged on the grants whereas the majority of NLS clubs benefited
 
TBH the key vote seems to be resolution one. If that passes tier two will probably halt. If it fails, it probably won't. It only needs eight tier one sides to vote against.

The presumption in tier two is the four votes go with a simple majority vote per division.(Nailed on against north, closer in the south.) However various clubs have stated they haven't been informed whether it's a simple majority vote division = four votes.

Another shambles.
 
The presumption in tier two is the four votes go with a simple majority vote per division.(Nailed on against north, closer in the south.) However various clubs have stated they haven't been informed whether it's a simple majority vote division = four votes.

Another shambles.
Marc White suggested in one of his video interviews that it's done on proportional representation, i.e. the votes could be cast 3-1 either way, or 2-2.

Last season when there was a vote I'm sure one of our own club officials confirmed that all four votes would be cast as a block according to majority consensus on that occasion.

Frankly it wouldn't be the National League if it was clear and obvious and not open to misinterpretation.

Any danger of the Bernstein Report being published while we're at it?
 
Marc White suggested in one of his video interviews that it's done on proportional representation, i.e. the votes could be cast 3-1 either way, or 2-2.

Last season when there was a vote I'm sure one of our own club officials confirmed that all four votes would be cast as a block according to majority consensus on that occasion.

Frankly it wouldn't be the National League if it was clear and obvious and not open to misinterpretation.

Any danger of the Bernstein Report being published while we're at it?
Unsurprisingly the voting allocation remains as clear as mud... According to Ollie Bayliss the NLN/NLS votes are allocated on a straight majority basis...
 
Gateshead now confirmed that they have voted to null + void. Also will not be playing in the meantime.
I'm guessing those determined to play on have already made it clear. I'd expect those who haven't yet declared will conclude that they just can't afford to continue even if they'd like to.

It sounds like Hemel were unable to stream their home game with Dorking on Saturday due to technical problems but refused Dorking's media team permission to do a live stream, therefore no one was even able to watch remotely. Premier League matches occasionally get called off at this time of the year if adverse weather conditions mean it's unsafe for supporters to attend, even though the pitch is fit and the players could play. Why wasn't that game called off if no one could see it? What is the actual point in playing elite sports that no one can see. It's becoming like e-sports for deluded club owners.
 
I'm guessing those determined to play on have already made it clear. I'd expect those who haven't yet declared will conclude that they just can't afford to continue even if they'd like to.

It sounds like Hemel were unable to stream their home game with Dorking on Saturday due to technical problems but refused Dorking's media team permission to do a live stream, therefore no one was even able to watch remotely. Premier League matches occasionally get called off at this time of the year if adverse weather conditions mean it's unsafe for supporters to attend, even though the pitch is fit and the players could play. Why wasn't that game called off if no one could see it? What is the actual point in playing elite sports that no one can see. It's becoming like e-sports for deluded club owners.
That's bad they wouldn't let Dorking stream the match. They are pissing off both teams supporters.
 
I'm guessing those determined to play on have already made it clear. I'd expect those who haven't yet declared will conclude that they just can't afford to continue even if they'd like to.

It sounds like Hemel were unable to stream their home game with Dorking on Saturday due to technical problems but refused Dorking's media team permission to do a live stream, therefore no one was even able to watch remotely. Premier League matches occasionally get called off at this time of the year if adverse weather conditions mean it's unsafe for supporters to attend, even though the pitch is fit and the players could play. Why wasn't that game called off if no one could see it? What is the actual point in playing elite sports that no one can see. It's becoming like e-sports for deluded club owners.
They are also insisting their game at home to Havant is still on tonight even though the area seems to be under a fairly substantial covering of snow. Playing St Albans-style silly buggers?

No mention of a live stream either.
 
I'm guessing those determined to play on have already made it clear. I'd expect those who haven't yet declared will conclude that they just can't afford to continue even if they'd like to.

It sounds like Hemel were unable to stream their home game with Dorking on Saturday due to technical problems but refused Dorking's media team permission to do a live stream, therefore no one was even able to watch remotely. Premier League matches occasionally get called off at this time of the year if adverse weather conditions mean it's unsafe for supporters to attend, even though the pitch is fit and the players could play. Why wasn't that game called off if no one could see it? What is the actual point in playing elite sports that no one can see. It's becoming like e-sports for deluded club owners.

😁😁 brilliant
 
We've put a thread out on twitter explaining where we are with the national league.

We'll get it over to you editor tomorrow AM, and up on our website by the afternoon for those who are twitter averse, i'm logging out for the night before my eyes bleed.

 
We've put a thread out on twitter explaining where we are with the national league.

We'll get it over to you editor tomorrow AM, and up on our website by the afternoon for those who are twitter averse, i'm logging out for the night before my eyes bleed.


I'd query one item on that list. If contracted players are all furloughed surely they are no longer "available"? Therefore a team cobbled together from unpaid replacements becomes the strongest "available" team. (Of course it would then reflect very poorly on a supposedly "elite" competition if several teams are going through the motions with substandard players.)

Looking at those League Rules just makes it even more clear and obvious that this season should never have started in the first place.
 
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Furloughed players are still registered with the league. Failing to play the strongest team probably refers to the strongest registered team. I doubt league rules allow for furlough.
 
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Furloughed players are still registered with the league. Failing to play the strongest team probably refers to the strongest registered team. I doubt league rules allow for furlough.

Exactly that, we've chosen to furlough them - they would or could argue that if we took the loan we wouldn't have to furlough them. Just layers upon layers of nonsense from them.
 
Furloughed players are still registered with the league. Failing to play the strongest team probably refers to the strongest registered team. I doubt league rules allow for furlough.
A good lawyer could almost certainly argue that any player being furloughed is “unavailable” considering that both player & club would be committing fraud should those furloughed players be playing..
 
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