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Dragon Age Inquisition

You've watched Trespasser online? Then you've spoiled yourself for some major reveals. Or do you just mean watching the trailer? Which, I guess would alert you to something, but not what it is I suppose.

Do you have theories about why you don't trust Solas?

I love Sera. I love the moral position she inhabits. She's very straightforward, at the same time as being confused about her own feelings. There's a crack theory about her, which I love but don't think is plausible but wish was, that I won't mention until you're done because it's really only given fuel by what you'll uncover later (not about her).
 
I only saw the Trespasser trailer, and no I have no theories about Solas, but the man has spent way too much time in the Fade not to have been touched by some of its darker forces...
 
I just have a quick question :p
I had a weird thing happen earlier in the game when I think I was looking for Solas' spirit friend.
There was a Pride Demon asleep near the coast, I couldn't attack it and it didn't attack me.
The mission All New, Faded For Her is still active in my journal but the diamond is filled in as if it has been completed.
Solas' third mission has also triggered.

Was the Pride Demon the spirit? Was it supposed to be asleep??

Also I bumped into Michel at Skyhold.. he is great.. I always remember that we stumbled across him fighting 3 demons on his own at Emprise du Lion, we tried to help him but he told us to go away and find Imshael! Super cool dude..
 
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The Pride Demon is indeed his spirit friend. That has been a bit of a buggy quest for some people, I think. If you've been able to continue with his other quests though, I wouldn't worry too much. It's a very short quest, only really interesting for it giving more background to Solas' thoughts on spirits.

Have you read any of the novels? I can't remember. Michel is quite a prominent character in The Masked Empire. If you haven't read that one, I absolutely recommend it. It gives a hell of a lot of context to the war in Orlais (Celene and Gaspard and Briala are the central characters), and Michel is there, as is Imshael. As is... someone else.
 
No spoilers, they're all set before Inquisition. Unless you haven't played the games before Inquisition, but I think you have, right? They're all great.

The first one is about Loghain and Cailan, and how they came to be friends. It's excellent and absolutely shaped my view of Loghain.

Then there's one about the calling, which is what Grey Wardens experience when they start getting older - they hear the taint calling them to the deep roads (the same thing darkspawn hear, that draws them to an archdemon), so they go to the deep roads to fight darkspawn until they die. It features the architect, from the Awakenings DAO dlc. During the events of Inquisition, our Warden from DAO, should they still be alive, is meant to be off looking for a cure for the taint. We know Fiona was cured of it, so it has to be possible, right?

There's one with Wynne and Shale and Cole (and Rhys and Evangeline), which has the events Cole talks about, with Lord Seeker Lambert in the aftermath of Anders blowing up the Chantry and as the mage rebellion is getting underway.

Then there's The Masked Empire, set right before the events of Inquisition, which would be absolutely excellent to give you more background, since they didn't do a very good job explaining the situation with Celene et al (especially Briala). And frankly it's just a really good book and has someone in it. Although you don't realise it at the time. It has a lot to do with eluvians, and gives some background to that stuff.

And then there's The Last Flight, which is about the Wardens. We learn how and why the griffons became extinct (which is very hard hitting), and it sets us up for some of the things that might be happening at Weisshaupt now, and what we might expect to see if we go there at a later date. It's split across two timelines, one maybe a couple of years before Inquisition, and the other during the 4th blight, which is when the griffons became extinct. We meet the warden who killed the 4th blight's archdemon, and his sister.
 
Thanks :)
I got book 1 on Kindle for 99p..shocking!! Not sure when I'll read it though.. I have a feeling I want to do at least one more play through of DA:I immediately after I finish my current game, as there are things I'm sure I missed at the beginning of the game whilst running around not really knowing what was going on :)
And will probably replay Origins at some point.. actually paying attention to the storyline this time..
I still haven't finished DA:2 the voice acting etc was killing me..
 
So I'm at Doom Upon the World and was going to save it for a major sesh tonight but have read that it's only 15 mins long!! I was expecting another What Pride Had Wrought epic evenings entertainment..
I'm not sure about playing Hakkon or Decent just yet as it feels like stalling..
Do you know how long Tresspasser is? I'm level 21...
 
Hakkon and Descent work just fine after the end of the game, before Trespasser of course. Neither of them particularly feel like they belong at a certain point in the flow of narrative, so go ahead and finish the game and then get stuck in with the DLC.

It's difficult for me to say how long any of them are because I extend my game time by at least double with all the screenshots I take. You're looking at a good solid few hours for each.

And yes, the end game bits with coryspit are very short and entirely anti-climactic and I am positive you'll feel it's a let-down. But Trespasser more than makes up for that.
 
I'm thinking to go straight from Doom to Trespasser.. I'm not sure how interesting Descent and Hakkon are..
 
I think they are very interesting. Mostly because of all the lore you'll find in them. Up to you though, there's little directly relating to the main plot in terms of their stories. I'd have been very sad if I hadn't played them, because I inhale lore like air and like the bigger picture it gives me.
 
I just finished trespasser, I'm still in sad mode because it has ended..
Am going to replay from just before wphw and do the other dlc.

I enjoy Elven history and wouldn't mind knowing more about those people a certain someone locked away in heaven and the abyss.

But am still in overwhelm mode, and my fucking hand!!
 
So Solas was just pretending to be a friend of the Inquisition in order to get the orb back and then use it in conjunction with the anchor?
What exactly is the relationship between the orb and anchor.
I guess he was helping to seal the breach as a show of loyalty knowing that once he had the orb it wouldn't matter anymore?

Who are the 'Agents of Fen'harel'? To be honest learning about them messed me up a bit, in the same way as the Mass Effect indoctrination theory did. :p I like to get pretty deep into these games and hearing about such things feels like a real betrayal.

So.. could Sera have been one? She spreads chaos..I think Solas needs this, as a weakened Thedas full of in-fighting would help in his plan.
Why else would he have sacrificed the Divine Justinia and allowed the Qunari plot to progress?
In the end I vowed to bring him back to his senses, he said he hoped I would prove him wrong again what does he mean by that?
Did Flemeth pass on her power to Solas instead of Morrigan? What exactly is the relationship between Mythal and the Dread Wolf? BTW I always found those wolf statues super creepy.. And is her dragon form related to the old gods?

Who exactly resides in the Golden City? It could be any number of different people depending on whose story you follow.
And could the Darkspawn be related to the Forgotten Ones?

Soo many questions :)

I am personally hoping that we see a return of Andraste's bloodline in DA4 as I think it could be very interesting seeing as it may be set in Tevinter..

I need to replay parts of the game.. its all so epic and weird and dealing with history is such an intriguing way.
Personally I think Solas should just forget it.. he made a mistake, whats done is done, empires rise and fall, knowledge is lost and new knowledge gained.
He hated the world before the veil, why would he want to bring that back??????
 
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My theories, some of which may address your questions, some of which are totally tinfoil - this post is LONG, in at least two posts because I wrote too much:

It's my understanding Corypheus was never meant to use the orb in that way. Fen'harel's agents gave it to him (Solas didn't) and the idea was he would unlock its power so Solas could use it to bring down the veil properly. But Corypheus is mad (maybe, that's up for discussion, considering we don't know what amount of what he says is correct, but we do know that the darkspawn magisters were a bit batshit in various degrees after they came back - the architect, who was one of the nine along with Cory, didn't even know he was one of the nine) so he was unpredictable, and he wanted to get back to the Black City to take up the Maker's throne - incidentally I don't necessarily think this was done entirely out of power hungry malice this time around, I think he genuinely is freaked out that there is (or appears to be) no Maker.

So, Cory used the orb, but it was never meant to be used by him in that way (I believe he was meant to reawaken its power and die in the process, unbeknownst to him, but as was Solas' plan), so it went tits up. That you happened to wander in as it happened meant that the power got somehow concentrated in you, causing the anchor. The anchor was never meant to be part of the equation.

Solas joined the Inquisition for three reasons, as I understand it: 1) to be in the best place to search for his orb; 2) to keep an eye on you and your anchor, to suss out what the deal with it was and whether he could use it or needed to destroy it (and you); 3) while he wanted to tear down the veil, he didn't want the breach - that's a different thing entirely: the spirits/demons that are being pulled through the breach and the rifts are being done so violently and against their will, and Solas wants to stop that because it's harming the spirits as much as anything else - don't forget, he cares deeply about these spirits, and that, in part, is why I think we have that little quest in the Exalted Plains that you couldn't complete, with the Pride Demon, who was his friend.

I will just interject boastingly at this point and say I worked out Solas was Fen'harel when I was still in Haven, and I worked out Flemeth was Mythal not long after that. I also figured he created the veil, and it's a good guess that he created it at Skyhold - the clue's in the freaking name, plus it's clear something of unimaginable power happened there at some point. I'm very good at guessing stuff in these games.

With that bragging out of the way...

As for the Agents of Fen'harel, I think they're possibly a collection of elves he's already won around to his thinking (since we see hundreds of them following him at the end), maybe even some ancient elves a la the sentinels/Abelas-type people. I don't think Sera is one of them, remember she's been a Jenny for a long time but Solas has only been awake for a year, however there is an absolutely delightful theory doing the rounds that Sera is Andruil. Utterly batshit theory, but I would love for it to be true. It hinges on her being preternaturally amaze with a bow and not realising how, along with one of her tarot cards having in it the same design as Andruil's vallaslin.

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See, batshit. I love it.

I have another theory, that she could also be one of the Forgotten Ones reincarnated somehow, but I'm sketchy on that. Both of those theories could be fiddled with to explain why she's so anti-magic and anti-elf, btw. If you have hours and hours I can go into my theories in more detail :D

I'm going through your post in order, so sorry if this is disjointed.

So, he didn't sacrifice Justinia, that was a mistake, it was never meant to happen. All he wanted at this stage was to reawaken the orb, bring it back to full power, so he could take it and use it to remove the veil properly. Solas wasn't very powerful when he awakened. So this is all just a big mistake, a hiccup in his plans.

I vowed the same, since I was an elf too, and while I disagreed with him I wanted to reason with him rather than just cut him down. I think when he says prove him wrong again, I think he's referring to how you have impressed him over the course of your time together, that you've proven there is some value in this world as it is in its current state. I don't think it's anything more shadowy than that. Solas doesn't want to cause widespread destruction and the death of everyone on the planet, he's not a cruel person, he's not a villain. But if you can imagine how different the world is, how much he must think has been lost. The fade and the physical world didn't used to be separate, spirits and people could mingle, magic was strong, magic was everything. It's very difficult to comprehend how different the world must seem to him now, but imagine waking up millennia after a nuclear holocaust, all technology is gone, all history is forgotten and replaced with lies, and there are a completely different set of physics to boot, that don't allow you to do half of the things you previously could. Imagine there was a way to make the world go back to how it was. Imagine you were the one responsible for the nuclear holocaust in the first place. That's kind of where Solas finds himself now. But he doesn't want to have to kill everyone, but for the moment the balance is in favour of bringing down the veil, which will sacrifice everyone (including the elves that are following him, interestingly enough).

I think two things happened when Flemeth died. She gave her power to Solas: he was still weak from being asleep for so long, and in Trespasser we see he's far more powerful now. Secondly, I believe she passed on Mythal's soul to Morrigan through the mirror. She said there's no way she would have been able to force Mythal on Morrigan had she not been willing, and I think by the end Morrigan is willing. It's the only thing that makes sense, considering Kieron doesn't always have the Old God soul in him so it won't be that (but in the event that she does have that soul from Kieron, she could be passing them both on to Morrigan, or she could have passed the Old God soul on to Solas, but I don't think we should automatically factor that into things just at the moment - although it will become an issue at some point).

As I understand it, Mythal was all about justice. When fighting broke out amongst the Evanuris (Elven Gods), she didn't succumb to it. Fen'harel was all about fairness too - he led the slaves to freedom (much like Andraste), removing their vallaslin, their slave markings. He gave them a choice, rather than binding them to servitude. Fen'harel was good friends with Mythal, and when one of the Evanuris (or an agent of theirs) killed her, he was rightly incensed. What we don't know is whether another one of his legendary fuck-ups in some way contributed to her murder, and that's why he feels such a need to help her. It's clear he feels deference to her, but at the same time has his own matters (the veil) to attend to. Mythal wants revenge against those who killed her, but doesn't seem to care about the veil. So they work together, but not just cynically -- I do think they feel affection for one another.
 
The Evanuris and the Old Gods, and Dragons and The Forgotten Ones... there's an entire week's worth of writing to be had here.

I have a lot of theories, but at this point we have no concrete facts on any of it.

What we know:

The Evanuris could take on the forms of dragons - their dragon forms were considered sacred (there's a mosaic story about an ancient elf being punished because they tried to take on the dragon form).

There were 7 Evanuris (sans Mythal), and there are 7 Old Gods.

The Dalish legend of Fen'harel, although it is wrong in some respects, did get it right that he locked the Evanuris away in 'the heavens' - which is The Fade. The same legend says at the same time he locked The Forgotten Ones away in the abyss.

We don't know for certain what the abyss is, but it comes up over and over in different ways, and is probably the same thing as 'the void' which also comes up time and time again. One important thing linking the abyss and the void is in The Descent dlc. You go down into an uncharted area below the Deep Roads. It's called the Uncharted Abyss. You meet some people there, and it links in a way I won't talk about to Caridin's Anvil of the Void from DAO. The abyss and the void tend to be used interchangeably a lot of the time. Andruil used to hunt The Forgotten Ones in the void (now this is important, and this is why you REALLY REALLY should play The Descent because I can't really talk about it without spoiling you but it's so important to the lore), and The Descent throws up some uncertainty as to who they actually were, because maybe they were 'these things I can't talk about' and weren't actually elves... but of course they were elves, so it's just another layer of confusion added to the mix.

So, void and abyss might simply be another way of saying "deep underground."

If it is, then when (if?) Fen'harel imprisoned the Forgotten Ones in the abyss, are they the Old Gods? This is a pretty popular theory. We don't know how many Forgotten Ones there were. (And another reason you should play Jaws of Hakkon, there's some lovely lore stuff about both Dumat AND Geldauran - Dumat being the lead Old God, of course, and Geldauran being one of the Forgotten Ones). It would seem strange if there were 7 Forgotten Ones to match the 7 banished Evanuris, but maybe there's a reason there were 7 of each, idk? But if there were, is there an 8th Forgotten One somewhere, to mirror Mythal?

Another theory is of course that the Old Gods are simply the Evanuris, but it doesn't quite work since we know now that Solas imprisoned them in The Fade (and possibly in the Golden/Black City - I'll come to that). However, since we know they could take on dragon form, my theory is that as the physical and fade worlds were sundered, so too were the Evanuris. I think the Old God dragons are their dragon aspects, and their magic, their elfy selves, are separated and locked in The Fade. This explains a couple of things: 1) why FleMythal wanted Urthemiel's soul; 2) part of the reason why Solas gets so grumpy with the Grey Wardens - they're killing his kind and ruining his chances of ever being able to fix his problem. I could be completely wrong, of course. This is a really difficult subject and there are lots of competing and conflicting bits of evidence. I build up my theories over years, refining them as the next game gives me more. I read the shit out of every single lore entry, and I build my ideas up from half a sentence here, a paragraph there. It's why it seemed absolutely blindingly obvious to me that Solas was Fen'harel and that he had created the veil as a means of stopping the warmongering Elven Gods, because I'd already got to that point reading and interpreting lore for years :D No doubt there is a hunk of information we haven't been told yet, and we're missing a chunk of the puzzle.

Golden/Black City. This is where a lot of it comes together. It's Arlathan. Some people say it can't be, but frankly at this point I can't see that it can't be. I'm not entirely certain we'll be given a firm answer on this, since it's so intricately linked to the Maker and they've said they'll never reveal whether the Maker is real or not - BUT the Maker is attributed with creating the veil, only we know he didn't now, and the Chant is as full of shit as the history the Dalish believe, so...

Arlathan was the shining jewel in the Ancient Elves' empire. It was the capital city, said to be 'the centre of their empire'. That image is important. The Golden/Black City is said to be equidistant no matter where you are in The Fade (unless you're there physically, in which case you can actually get to it). We learn from the Temple of Mythal that each of the Evanuris had their own temple, each surrounded by a glorious city. Elgar'nan was the head Evanuris, so it stands to reason Arlathan was the seat of his power. Elgar'nan was the sun god. Sun, golden, a city paved with gold, Arlathan's streets glittered. Arlathan was The Golden City.

It's important to remember at this point that images in The Fade shape themselves to the will of dreamers. In other words, people see what they expect to see. A lot of people stumble on this point, but it's an important one. It's also important to remember that one of the main themes of the series is stories: why do we tell the stories we tell? Whose stories get told? Who controls history? How do histories change over time? Who appropriates history, and to what ends? The astrarium puzzles, as much as they appear to be frippery, are really important. They explain how the symbolism of the constellations has changed and been interpreted in different ways through different cultures, and shine a light on how the same thing can be interpreted in wildly different ways. This is so absolutely key to the whole game. As is my favourite codex entry, the very last entry in the 'Tales' section, codex #125, "What is Green?"

"What is green? Imagine I should present to you an object which, to my mind, is of indisputable greenness and ask, "Does this thing appear to you to be green?"

Naturally, you might say that it does, for you have come to recognize the appearance of the color of the object to be "green," associating the word with what your eyes see. But could it be my understanding of "green" differs entirely from yours? What if, perchance, you could see into my mind? You might realize that all things that I name "green" are actually "red" in your understanding.

Ah, without the moorings of objective truth, we are set adrift in oceans of solitary experience."​

God, that's good shit. That goes right to the heart of it. So the Chant says Andraste was X type of person, does it? Well the Chant was only put into place after Emperor Drakon was successful in crushing all of the other competing histories and legends about Andraste that were doing the rounds. His preferred version of Andrastianism was only one of many. He was powerful, and, as we all know, history belongs to the victor. The Tevinter hold that Andraste was a mage. Now, they have good reason to believe that, since it reaffirms their ideology. However, I think they are right, in this instance. We've seen exactly the same thing happen with the Avvar legend of Tyrdda Bright-Axe. Legend has it she wielded a great axe. We find it. It's a staff. Words get translated, interpreted to suit the narrative of the current age, and meaning changes. That's central to everything in the series.

[Total aside, do you remember, did you do the Dalish origin in DAO? If so, there were statues there that with hindsight were statues of Mythal <3 Also, we think of Flemeth as the Witch of the (Korcari) Wilds. But NO! She was the Witch of the Arbor Wilds all along.]

Post three incoming...
 
So, how does this relate to my wafflings about Arlathan? The Ancient Elven empire was basically all there was. When the fade and physical world were not separate, Arlathan would have been a very important cultural icon and landmark in the minds of everyone. It's possible it coexisted in the fade and physical parts of the world (the fade was still a 'thing' before the veil, it just wasn't hard separated).

It's worth mentioning Yavana: Yavana is a character in the Dragon Age comics. She is Flemeth's daughter, Morrigan's sister. She is known as the Witch of the Antivan Wilds. She has some very interesting things to say in the comics:
  • "The blood of dragons is the blood of the world."
  • "A fool with power desires only more power."
  • (to Alistair) Your heart beats with the old blood, as well. Where do you think it comes from? It sings of a time when dragons ruled the skies. A time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten. Can you hear it?"
Surely, 'when dragons ruled the skies' is meant to mean when the Evanuris ruled the Elven empire. 'Your heart beats with the old blood' is a reference to him being a Grey Warden, having darkspawn blood in him, but then what does that mean?

OK, IN THE COURSE OF WRITING THIS I HAVE REDEVELOPED MY THEORIES.

You'll have to work hard to keep up with my thoughts, since I haven't even fully explained my previous theories. But I was labouring under the impression the Black City was already Black when Cory et al went there. That Andruil brought the taint up from the void with her (it says as much in one of her mosaics in Mythal's temple), it helped fuel their wars, which in turn spurred Fen'harel on to stop them by any means necessary. Sundering the physical world and the fade also sundered Arlathan, but by this point Arlathan was mostly tainted, and it was locked in the fade all but a tiny part of it, which remained (for the Tevinters to sack many years later as they stole all of Elven culture and history). Because everyone expected to see a Golden City, because there had always been the golden city of Arlathan in the fade, that's what they continued to see, because no one knew it was now black, because it turned black around the time Solas locked it away in the Fade, or just before. Over the eras, the stories as to what this Golden City was changed as ideologies and religions and narratives and politics changed, but just because that was what people had always expected to see, they continued to see it as Golden. No one could walk physically in the Fade, so no one knew it was in fact Black. When Cory went there, he saw it was in fact Black, and from that point onwards, thanks to the Chantry as well, people saw it as Black, and attributed that to their various religions. That's also how Cory was tainted - he caught it from the already tainted Arlathan.

BUT

What if the Golden City WAS still Golden when they got there? Taking into consideration what Yavana says, and if the old god dragons are the dragon aspects of the Evanuris, sundered from them, two halves of the same beings separated (on purpose, because Solas separated out the tainted bit and the non-tainted bit while he thought about a way to more thoroughly fix the problem) into the two realms, what if Cory breaching the fade and walking there physically - a thing that was never meant to happen - created a link between them again, and somehow passed the taint to the Fade? And so when Cory went there, it did turn the Golden City black? And that, in turn, passed the taint onto him and his mates, who then brought it back down to the physical world. They become drawn to the Old Gods, who want freeing from their prisons, and the process create more darkspawn, who in turn are drawn to the Old Gods. So the blood of the Old Gods is the blood of the Evanuris, the taint is from the blood of the Evanuris, and that makes sense of what Yavana says, and it helps explain very simply the Golden-Black thing.

There's still a lot Solas wasn't telling us at the end of Trespasser. He explained some of his motivation, and he explained some of the history of what happened, but I don't for a second believe he told us everything. And there has to be some link to the taint.

I like this theory! I mean, I still like the idea that the Golden City was already black, but this makes a lot of sense.

Your warden from DAO is meant to be out there searching for a cure to the taint. Before I just redeveloped this theory (right in front of your eyes, I do that a lot), I'd already figured what would happen in DA4 - it's all in the final scene where you stab the map, it's literally written on there:

* War between Tevinter and the Qunari will for the backdrop, a la the conflict between the mages and templars - we'll have to solve some stuff, we'll be fighting qunari as random mobs here and there
* Solas (also a town in Tevinter, which is why I say this stuff is literally written on there) will be our key plot, our main antagonist, the main danger, and we'll have to stop him
* We will go to Weisshaupt (also on the map), and we will find out why all the wardens have disappeared

Now, we know our warden is searching for a cure, maybe the reason they're disappearing is because they've found one? This would tie in perfectly with Solas' story, since a cure for the taint would give him options when deciding what to do about the veil and the Evanuris, if he could cure the remaining two old gods, and potentially all of the Evanuris in the Fade if they are indeed now also tainted, and cure Arlathan, etc... maybe that gives him choices, or maybe he'll want to take that cure forcibly for his own ends and continue with his plan as is?

However, we also know that the Wardens have maps of where the remaining Old Gods are imprisoned, they've just never been able to reach them because of the sheer numbers of darkspawn in the way (since they're drawn to their 'song'). A very good reason for the wardens to be disappearing would be if they had indeed found a way to get to one of them. They wouldn't alert the world, they'd want to muster all their forces to assault the dragon and kill it before the darkspawn could get to it, and thus prevent a blight.

Both of those things could be true. They might have discovered the former in pursuit of the latter.

You need to read The Last Flight in order to see why it'll be so AMAZING to go to Weisshaupt and I'm SO EXCITED.

So, during the course of DA4 I predict (and none of these predictions have changed, my ideas about the golden city I've developed while writing this don't alter anything): we will discover the true nature of the Old Gods and the taint; the taint might be cured and the dragons might be dealt with; we will discover what the qunari are (hint: they used to be elves, they were corrupted by dragon blood and blood magic in rituals and experiments gone bad by the Tevinter long ago); we might find out more about dwarven stuff BUT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE DESCENT OMG IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING. I'm unsure whether we'll see a complete resolution of the veil story, but it does feel like we're building to something world-altering. I think the end of DA4 will see the end of the Dragon Age, although hopefully not of Dragon Age. I think we'll have got to the bottom of a heck of a lot of stuff that's been building since DAO, including the Old Gods, the nature of the taint, etc. It will come full circle, and there will be no more threat of blights. That leaves us perfectly situated for something entirely new in DA5, which will be The Executors, and part of the game will be based in Antiva (YAY!).


I also think Mythal is the Avvar god, The Lady of The Skies. I think Elgar'nan/Dumat has been trying to get people to break him out for eras. He nearly managed it with Cory but it backfired. I think he nearly managed it with Andraste. Mythal put a stop to it with Tyrdda Bright-Axe. This is some of my more tinfoil stuff, but we'll see.

OMG play the DLCs!!! :D
 
So interesting, thanks for this :)
I particularly like your physically split aspects theory, in fact I love it!
It makes me want to search for similar stories in the real world, maybe in Chinese (yin yang) or Celtic belief systems.
I'm still feeling emotionally drained by it all as I put around 200 hrs into the game ( although there is no way of finding the exact figure on the ps4 ) so will be having a good rest before I go in again.. :)
 
I've just seen a video of some Solas dialogue at the end of Trespasser. I didn't get this bit, they got it by choosing a bit of a snarky reply to something he said. They picked something like, 'Thanks anyway' and the inky said:

"Well, thanks for the castle anyway, I suppose."

And he replies, "Enjoy it while you can, Inquisitor. It was mine, once."

So there we have it. Confirmed that Skyhold was his and it stands to reason he must have created the veil there.

Interesting, there must be a lot in the conversation with him that is lost if you don't pick certain replies. I love that.

Also, GOD PLEASE AT LEAST PLAY THE DESCENT. :D It's really interesting in its own right, it adds something totally WTF to dwarven history and potentially to the history of all of Thedas, and it seemingly relates in some very important way to the Evanuris, and possibly to the taint/darkspawn, and possibly linking all of those things together. AND HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR SANDAL OMG (although he's not in it, boo hiss). :D
 
This thread is going to become a list of spoiler code buttons :p
I'm not sure when I'll play Descent as October is busy.. But I went into DA:I last night (in an emotional state :p ) and read some songs in the Exalted Plains 'The Silver Knight' it just made me more emotional lol

Anyway.. the taint! That is interesting, it could have turned the golden city black and corrupted the Evanuris.
Makes me wonder what exactly the taint is.. there seems to be something mycelial about it 'Taint also manifests as spidery tendrils of black rot, along with a dry shiny film covering underground passages used by darkspawn'
And even the name of the blight suggest something fungal see Phytophthora infestans Phytophthora infestans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maybe it is spread by spores.. Do we ever actually use Deep Mushroom for anything? The hive mind and calling could also be explained in a similar way to how Ophiocordyceps unilateralis Ophiocordyceps unilateralis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia causes behavioural changes in it's host.
However I don't believe David Gaider would have reduced Dragon Age to a zombie infected survival horror game..

Its interesting what you say about the dragon blood and Qunari, I remember Iron Bull talking about this when he was discussing his love of fighting dragons, he said maybe he had dragon blood in him.
 
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Re qunari dragon blood, one of the mosaics (or maybe a couple of them) you can get Gatsi to interpret deal with what seems to be the qunari being used by Tevinter magisters for something. They're well worth reading about on the wiki, the mosaics - lots of stuff to interpret there. There's something elsewhere as well that mentions that if you drink too much dragon blood you change, you start to get dragon qualities.

And on the taint, sdjafnksjgnksdjgn I can't say much about my theories until you've played The Descent. But remember what we found out when we met Bianca? That red lyrium is normal lyrium that has been infected by the taint. That's very interesting, especially considering what we find out about normal lyrium during the course of The Descent. And it confuses - or makes more interesting - the statement by Yavana that I mentioned yesterday, that the blood of dragons is the blood of the world.

We do use deep mushroom - I think we use it for poisons, that sort of thing. It's not related to the taint, or at least there's nothing in any lore that would link them together. But then, as I've typed that sentence I'm reminded of this amazing bit of dialogue with Solas that makes me lol:

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OKAY SOLAS IF YOU SAY SO.

(That's my current Dorf, Riley.)

Certainly, I've long liked the idea that the taint is entirely organic in nature, that it just naturally arose as a pathogen or whatever, but when exposed under the right circumstances, shit went bad and we got what we got, and people have been using religion and magic to make sense of it because they don't have the scientific knowledge to understand any better.

As an aside, a little moment that reflects that idea (that we make up stories to explain what we don't understand, and treat them as self-evident until something else happens to prove otherwise) is the surgeon at Skyhold. You ask her why not just have mages heal people? And she replies that we shouldn't rely on magic for everything, and that SCIENCE! is more reliable, and that good health is all about healthy food, exercise, and a balance of the humours :D I love that.
 
People's costume abilities always amaze me. They got the exact material of his shirt right. And the detailing on her tunic, the piping, lovely!
 
I have been pondering what the best sources of historical 'fact' are in Dragon Age, I doubt the books are, I would love to say the mosaics are but we all know how artworks are commissioned, so I thought maybe it's the songs. These can and do get corrupted over time but imo oral history can still be a reliable source of information.
Btw what are your thoughts on the horned beings in the mosaics at Par Vollen? :)
Also why is qunari reproduction so controlled?

Here is the Silver Knight Song

Bright silver were his helm and chain,
Bright silver on his horse's rein;
He rode upon the golden plain,
The brave and comely knight.

The elves stood fast, their banners high.
They would not flee, they would not fly,
Though knowing they would surely die,
The last of Dalish might.

He met them on the golden field,
The fate of elvenkind now sealed,
In mercy, urged them all to yield,
He sorrowed for their plight.

But prideful were the Dalish kin,
Their vengeful hearts could not give in,
With raging cry and dreadful grin,
They struck against the Light.

Beneath the red and fading sun,
The elven stand was swift undone,
'Til they were vanquished, all but one:
Defiant in her fight.

Her brothers on the field lay slain,
He would not see her die in vain,
In grief, cried "Yield!" to her again,
That good and gentle knight.

He could not strike; his shield dropped low,
She lifted sword against her foe,
They did not see the far-off bow,
Its arrow loosed in flight.

A sharpened thorn, a searing brand,
A shot the elf could not withstand;
The sword fell lifeless from her hand,
With drops of crimson bright.

He said no word, he made no sound,
But caught her, falling to the ground.
Her dark hair flowing, all unbound:
A veil as black as night.

And up around him came the call,
That celebrated Dalish fall,
The cry of vic'try came from all,
Except the silver knight.

The glimmer of his helm and chain,
Now dull with dark and bloody stain.
He looked and saw upon the plain,
The dying elven light.

Elf sword in hand, heart filled with woe,
No one would ever see him go,
But with a solemn prayer, spoke low,
He vanished into night.

They say he rode on easterly,
The sword he placed beneath a tree.
And there remained, on bended knee,
That grave and mournful knight.
 
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