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Do you consider yourself an audiophile?

Are you an audiophile?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 13.7%

  • No

    Votes: 84 36.1%

  • Audiophiles are deluded bullshitters

    Votes: 117 50.2%
  • Total voters
    233
Cid said:
Not only that, but the high specific gravity of tropical hardwoods when combined with premium audi-grade ply creates a composite material that gives supreme density and vibrational resistance while preserving the tone-colour that you can only get with real woods. With our premium-grade ebony veneer the advantages extend still further - the blackness of the external surfaces helps reduce electromagnetic noise.
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You know, I'm actually tempted to knock up a few 'audiophile' cables and see if I can get some fool to buy them on ebay. You can write the blurb if you like Cid.
 
ItWillNeverWork said:
You know, I'm actually tempted to knock up a few 'audiophile' cables and see if I can get some fool to buy them on ebay. You can write the blurb if you like Cid.
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You probably could, but could you live with yourself knowing you'd ripped off some gullible person somewhere? I don't think I could (or at least I hope I couldn't).
 
Meltingpot said:
You probably could, but could you live with yourself knowing you'd ripped off some gullible person somewhere? I don't think I could (or at least I hope I couldn't).
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Believe me, I could live with it. I mean, I can't imagine any of these people are hard-up. So in a sense I would be a Robin Hood figure stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. It just so happens that I'm the poor one. :D
 
ItWillNeverWork said:
You know, I'm actually tempted to knock up a few 'audiophile' cables and see if I can get some fool to buy them on ebay. You can write the blurb if you like Cid.
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You'll need to set up a couple of blogs to 'review' your cable. Obviously the reviews will explain just how the lows are deeper, highs are higher and the sound has a wider field type crap...just copy a review from an audiophile website and change the words round a bit.
 
Diddly Squat said:
You'll need to set up a couple of blogs to 'review' your cable. Obviously the reviews will explain just how the lows are deeper, highs are higher and the sound has a wider field type crap...just copy a review from an audiophile website and change the words round a bit.
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you need to use the totally made up term "soundstage" alot, otherwise they'll figure you out.
 
Cid said:
As to speakers warming up, again - why? The only conceivable differences would be negative surely? e.g the material of the cone being deformed or becoming less stiff due to heat.
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PA drivers (at least some that i have used) benefit from some bedding in to loosen the suspension material, also "warming up" the speakers will heat the voicecoils which will change the impedance. whether this is beneficial or not will depend on the cabinet design wrt to the thiele small parameters which will change with voicecoil temperature, stiffness of suspension and a million other things.

i've had a few experiences of new drivers becoming much louder after a couple of outings and needing to reduce how much power they're given to tame them in relation to the rest of the setup.
 
Here's some great 'sound improving' techniques for you all to try at home here, including pinning back one corner of a curtain in the listening room, trying reef knots in any old cable laying around and of course, putting CDs in the freezer :cool:

http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html

My particular favourite:
If you have a vase of flowers or a pot in a plant pot in the listening room, stand the vase or the plant pot on a plain piece of BLUE paper. Listen to some music for a short time, then remove the piece of Blue paper and see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure - without the piece of Blue paper in position !!
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:D
 
Diddly Squat said:
You'll need to set up a couple of blogs to 'review' your cable. Obviously the reviews will explain just how the lows are deeper, highs are higher and the sound has a wider field type crap...just copy a review from an audiophile website and change the words round a bit.
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'Substantially warmer mid-tones round off the enhanced listening experience provided by the tachyon-charged shielding in this new and amazing speaker wire...'

skyscraper101 said:
Here's some great 'sound improving' techniques for you all to try at home here, including pinning back one corner of a curtain in the listening room, trying reef knots in any old cable laying around and of course, putting CDs in the freezer :cool:

http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html

My particular favourite:

:D
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The paper one is true, I once lived in a squat where the stereo wouldn't work at all unless I put a heavy wooden pillar in one particular part of the room and then jammed a bit of folded card under the diagonally opposite leg of the minisystem. Sound improved by 100% (i.e. I could listen to music on it at all), sadly the electrics, heating, hot water, windows, etc were not so fortunate so I moved out in the end.
 
Also experiment by applying the same freezing/slow defrost process to such as batteries. Again have identical batteries. For experimental purposes the batteries used in remote controls are an ideal battery to use. If the remote control takes two batteries, then you require four identical batteries - two to be put through the freezing/slow defrost process, and the other two to be left as the control ones (non treated). After freezing two batteries, insert them into the remote control and listen to some music for a short time. Then replace the (treated) batteries with the untreated batteries and see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure as before !!
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thats why my music doesn't sound as good as it could, the batteries in my remote control haven't been frozen.
 
spitfire said:
It gets worse.......
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue1/beltpen.htm
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"The P.W.B. ‘X’ Coordinate Pen has been induced with complex messages and when a human writes a message with the pen, the conditions on the object change in a similar way to the events in the ‘double slit’ experiment, in which the essential ingredient is the pure energy form of the photons and electrons which readily interact with the human observer."

Awesome. :D
 
Anyone want to recommend me a super-un-audiophile amp?

By which I mean, it doesn't matter what it looks like, and it should offer the best quality per £ possible. If it can drive two pairs of speakers all the better.
 
teuchter said:
Anyone want to recommend me a super-un-audiophile amp?

By which I mean, it doesn't matter what it looks like, and it should offer the best quality per £ possible. If it can drive two pairs of speakers all the better.
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you want a t-amp. I recommend the SMSL version:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMSL-AMP-..._Amplifiers&hash=item43abef5876#ht_4180wt_912

at £21.18 this is a massive bargain.

eta: the really posh tamps use TA2021B chips, yours here for £25 peanuts: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25W-X2-SM...eo-Amplifier-Blk-/190584608224#ht_9545wt_1146

I have no idea what the difference is between the TA2020 and TA2021B chip. They are both variously rated as 2x20w or 2x25w into 4ohms depending on where you look. :/ Either way, they sound amazing.
 
No he doesn't

EDIT: OK, so he wants two of them. And you'd better hope he only has one source.
 
teuchter said:
What about bigger-than-bookshelf speakers?

2 source inputs would be nice but not necessarily essential.
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It's not the size it's the impedance. Check the back of the speakers to see what they're rated at. Common values are 2,4,8 or 16 ohms. I've happily run 4 8ohm speakers off that amp. Two 3 inch and two 10 inch.

Theoretically you could run two pairs of 4ohm speakers but you'd only get half the power out of the amp if you do that. Two pairs of 8ohm speakers (or one pair of 4ohm) would get the max out of it.
 
fractionMan said:
I have no idea what the difference is between the TA2020 and TA2021B chip. They are both variously rated as 2x20w or 2x25w into 4ohms depending on where you look. :/ Either way, they sound amazing.
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Looks like you are paying for a slightly fancier housing and speaker/source terminals.
 
teuchter said:
Anyone want to recommend me a super-un-audiophile amp?

By which I mean, it doesn't matter what it looks like, and it should offer the best quality per £ possible. If it can drive two pairs of speakers all the better.
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We used to get old amps out of the Richer Sounds skip back when they did trade ins - one of my best HiFi amps came to me like that, it needed one connection soldering on one switch, and was pretty ancient so it was easy to get at the insides...
 
teuchter said:
Looks like you are paying for a slightly fancier housing and speaker/source terminals.
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I'm talking about the main chip. It's got a different model number. There are lots of different manufacturers using both chips in cases ranging from ugly and cheaply made to the beautiful and sturdy.

SMSL tend to use high quality components around the chip along with well constructed cases for very low prices, which is why I recomend them.
 
blueplume said:
yes, the cables are the last top elements for a perfect sound, when you've already got top louders, ampli...
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actually nope: it's your brain, which is placed after your ears which are connected to the air moved by the speakers.
Boycey said:
i wish i could find the AES youtube lecture on psychoacoustics and how powerful suggestion is wrt to hearing and perception.
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An evil idea but I like it, off you go then.
 
Cid said:
Not only that, but the high specific gravity of tropical hardwoods when combined with premium audi-grade ply creates a composite material that gives supreme density and vibrational resistance while preserving the tone-colour that you can only get with real woods. With our premium-grade ebony veneer the advantages extend still further - the blackness of the external surfaces helps reduce electromagnetic noise.
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I haven't looked at the price but this seems to me to be worth several thousands at least
 
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