Dessie Noonan
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Hoxtontwat
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O.K who saw the programme then? and what do you think?
Ha ha what a load of shite.
edited to add: Two bit plazzy gangsters in cheap suits at their very best. The media have been bigging up the Noonans as some of the most high profile gangsters in the country. I hope there were plenty off young kids watching to see that a life of crime earns you such flash apparel as a wacky tie from Birthdays on Market St. Their celebration night looked worse than the Phoenix club.
edited to add: Two bit plazzy gangsters in cheap suits at their very best. The media have been bigging up the Noonans as some of the most high profile gangsters in the country. I hope there were plenty off young kids watching to see that a life of crime earns you such flash apparel as a wacky tie from Birthdays on Market St. Their celebration night looked worse than the Phoenix club.
Hoxtontwat said:
Terrible programme, but that's not a surprise from Donal MacIntyre, who is one of the most lazy investigative journalists. There was hardly any dialogue, hardly any analysis, and hardly any "investigation", just MacIntyre with his "shaky cam". He was so submissive, and almost went as far as glamourising Noonan and laughing along with his criminal activities. It was like an advertisment, interspersed with Oasis tracks (oh, its sooo Manchester, dahling) and highly cliched. The other lads in Noonan's gang looked so disorganised - I thought that spoke for itself really. Shit like this does'nt have to be glamourised by two-bit "journalists" who have been shown up to be fucknuts from their previous work (Like that programme about being mugged in Brixton).
MacIntyre is a fucknut.
That programme absolutely stank on every level. Frankly the idea that Manchester is policed by heart of gold criminals is laughable. And as for the Noonans boasting that they are some sort of master criminals - how do they explain the fact that they have been caught, convicted and imprisoned so many times?
Another thing you have to remember is that there have been quite a few programmes based around Manchester over the past 10 years or so. There was the program about the jack the lad scallies in Salford made with CH4 which was exposed as being a set up, the one where Roger Cook set up his pub in Salford and the program BBC were making with Paul Massey where he stabbed someone on camera but the tapes were lost.
A lot of responsibility needs putting on the companies and idiots like Macintyre who get involved with these gangster vanity projects.
A lot of responsibility needs putting on the companies and idiots like Macintyre who get involved with these gangster vanity projects.
,damn mancheter is going to come to a stand still with dessie's funeral,gonna be more that was at damians funeral for sure,any ides who actually stabbed him yet,some yardie i heard.
oh well i didnt know the man so no loss to me but i suppose a big loss in gangland.what did dessie actually do,apparently he was drinking in a pub the night he was murdered,n some websites day his body was dumped near where he lived,but i thought he just got shived up near where he lived???
Flavour
hang the bankers
yes, considering you're a new poster coming straight into this thread and referring indirectly to the conclusions of the fascists regarding the death of a (criminal) anti-fascist.
If you want to meet dominic noonan, then why don't you move in on mersey bank, it's cheap as fuck, halway between lovely chorlton, lovely didsbury, and the river bank is rife with drug dealing (ive found loads of mad shit on the mersey bank before, not even including the estate where dessie's body was found).
Anyway, i re-iterate.
Say Nothing.
If you want to meet dominic noonan, then why don't you move in on mersey bank, it's cheap as fuck, halway between lovely chorlton, lovely didsbury, and the river bank is rife with drug dealing (ive found loads of mad shit on the mersey bank before, not even including the estate where dessie's body was found).
Anyway, i re-iterate.
Say Nothing.
cappsy,
The questions your asking won't get answered here, and probably not elsewhere. I already heard a few different stories agout the murder and hundreds more about the Noonans but they might be wrong. Even if they weren't who am I to be broadcasting such things.
If you don't know you don't need to know
The questions your asking won't get answered here, and probably not elsewhere. I already heard a few different stories agout the murder and hundreds more about the Noonans but they might be wrong. Even if they weren't who am I to be broadcasting such things.
If you don't know you don't need to know
so the flavour,who are you to tell me to say nothing,if i wanna know sumthing i will ask questions,and theres nothing nobody can do,itss hardly an offence,just cus i am new to the forum doesnt mean i am new to the noonans,or what they have done,all i asked was what happened to him,sum1 obvously knows,i asked a simple question,one of my mates is very close to dom noonan i am saure i cud get sum info from him,i jsut wanted to see if neone here had owt to say,are you a a manchester gangsta?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
i have no opinions on jews,to be honest i realy dont care whatu think flavour,y wud i be a facist for asking questions,i wil keep my mouth shut about what i wanna know in future on this forum,as u seem not helpful enuf to or nice enuf to jsut say hush talking about stuff u dont know,maybe u did say that bit to subtle for me as i am at work,i am knackerd!!! 
gangs seem to interest me u seem like intelligent people and i value your opinions,we should try to get along
gangs seem to interest me u seem like intelligent people and i value your opinions,we should try to get alongbouncer_the_dog
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Well I know little about the noonans but what I saw on the doc. They were awful IMO. I dont care if he was an anti facist it in no way makes up for his criminal behaviour. The world is better off without them. I thought the main focus 'Dessie' was a pathetic idividual, his need to be surrounded by skinhead teenagers struck me as a kind of insecurity that no hardcore gangster should have. I thought it was funny the way they reverted to normal behaviour, eating chips and wearing tracksuits, when he was in the clink. I didnt like the way he swaggered around desperatley trying to show that he was good for the community when in fact he is nothing more than a cancerous boil. Macentyre has always been a shite doc. maker but his hands off approach allowed the Noonans to display themselve as the thugs they are. Frank Castle could sort 'em out good and proper. 
Larry O'Hara
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The Bigger Picture?
First off, let me say I haven't seen the C5 documentary yet (can't get proper signal!) but I will, soon.
Colleagues who have seen it tell me it is the usual shallow Macintyre stuff, totally uncritical. Being a Scouser, I can't comment with any detailed knowledge on Manchester gangs, though rest assured Macintyre & this documentary will be covered in the next NFB, with input from me plus others with that detailed local knowledge (www.borderland.co.uk).
Be that as it may, Macintyre's past output (extensively covered in NFB 3 4 & 5) means it is right to see him as a 'journo-cop' par excellence. Certainly, he has in the past been on bad terms with Greater Manchester Police, and it seems that this documentary continues that. This would not make him radical, or anti-police in any fundamental way. Any more than it makes the BBC who have repeatedly clashed with GMP radical (see Paul Marsh' review of the Walsh book on Manchester gangs in current NFB). There is an ongoing turf war between Manchester police (in particular) and the Met Police especially. Lurking in the wings is the spectre of a British FBI--National Police Force, as hinted at in the Serious & Organised Crime Bill, setting up an agency of that name headed by Stephen Lander (ex-head of MI5). So, if Manchester police can be shown to be incompetent wooden-tops, given the run-around by the Noonans & similar, then the (propaganda) case for a new ever more centralised police force is thereby made. In that respect, if the programme was as shallow and uncritical as (valued) comrades have assured me it was, then this would only help it serve the purpose I have suggested.
Till then, in the absence of serious counter-evidence, PC Donal Macintyre will continue on his media beat. I, and others, remain profoundly unimpressed--but would welcome the opportunity to debate these issues in public with PC Macintyre, soon.
First off, let me say I haven't seen the C5 documentary yet (can't get proper signal!) but I will, soon.
Colleagues who have seen it tell me it is the usual shallow Macintyre stuff, totally uncritical. Being a Scouser, I can't comment with any detailed knowledge on Manchester gangs, though rest assured Macintyre & this documentary will be covered in the next NFB, with input from me plus others with that detailed local knowledge (www.borderland.co.uk).
Be that as it may, Macintyre's past output (extensively covered in NFB 3 4 & 5) means it is right to see him as a 'journo-cop' par excellence. Certainly, he has in the past been on bad terms with Greater Manchester Police, and it seems that this documentary continues that. This would not make him radical, or anti-police in any fundamental way. Any more than it makes the BBC who have repeatedly clashed with GMP radical (see Paul Marsh' review of the Walsh book on Manchester gangs in current NFB). There is an ongoing turf war between Manchester police (in particular) and the Met Police especially. Lurking in the wings is the spectre of a British FBI--National Police Force, as hinted at in the Serious & Organised Crime Bill, setting up an agency of that name headed by Stephen Lander (ex-head of MI5). So, if Manchester police can be shown to be incompetent wooden-tops, given the run-around by the Noonans & similar, then the (propaganda) case for a new ever more centralised police force is thereby made. In that respect, if the programme was as shallow and uncritical as (valued) comrades have assured me it was, then this would only help it serve the purpose I have suggested.
Till then, in the absence of serious counter-evidence, PC Donal Macintyre will continue on his media beat. I, and others, remain profoundly unimpressed--but would welcome the opportunity to debate these issues in public with PC Macintyre, soon.
Danny Ross
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So, Larry O'Hara, bouncer the dog, cappsy, snuffyzee, Richard White, Part 2 and all the other gobshites, you know it all do you? Having a go at Dessie, now he's dead, is easy but Demu is spot on: you never knew the man and if you had I would have liked to have seen you making your airheaded "judgments" and calling him "pathetic" to his face.
He had more courage in his fingernails than you lot have added up together (ask the fascists!), so give it a rest.
By the way, yes, I am new on here and I am posting because I object to people mocking Dessie Noonan.
He had more courage in his fingernails than you lot have added up together (ask the fascists!), so give it a rest.
By the way, yes, I am new on here and I am posting because I object to people mocking Dessie Noonan.
