Colston statue replacement
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Athos
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Oh, you do love an argument, don't you?
But I'm not biting.
I'm not spoiling for an argument; I just disagree with your point, for the reasons given. Up to you whether you can/will address them.
Crispy
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The colston statue is in the M shed now, for a few months while they gather public opnion about what should happen to it next
www.bristolmuseums.org.uk
The Colston Statue: What next? | M Shed - Bristol Museums
One year on from its toppling, the Edward Colston statue now forms part of a new display at M Shed to start a city-wide conversation about its future.
www.bristolmuseums.org.uk
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yes, the consultative display where they have forgot to mention the Merchant Venturers, where the Mayor is centred rather the grassroots anti-colston groups and his history of not wanting to touch the colston issue with a barge pole is conveniently also forgotten.
Much much more at first link.
Much much more at first link.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i see the statue is conveniently located and oriented for easy lifting and use as a ram to break the surrounding glass, the nearby window and ejection into the waterThe colston statue is in the M shed now, for a few months while they gather public opnion about what should happen to it next
The Colston Statue: What next? | M Shed - Bristol Museums
One year on from its toppling, the Edward Colston statue now forms part of a new display at M Shed to start a city-wide conversation about its future.
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I don't think it needs removing from it's current home. I gather the exhibition is well done and tells a fairly full/true history. The people I know in Bristol, including my 26 year old nephew who was in the crowd when it was pulled down, support this exhibition.
My nephew and his mates are proud to have been part of that crowd, and chuffed that events of that day are being commemorated in this exhibition. They are mostly all Black/PoC and politically literate so I respect their views on this.
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Starry Wisdom
i'm just pointing out how thoughtfully it has been placed should anyone desire to defenestrate the nefandous colston
Sure. I'm just saying/I think to do that would be to miss the point of the previous action which put him in the river, as well as the nature of his current position in this exhibition.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what, pointing out the supine position of the statue and proximity to the window and water misses the point of the original submersion?
No, sorry I wasn't more clear and also sounded more critical of you than I intended.
But yes I do think that if anyone were to actually take it from the museum and put it back in the water, that act would have a very different meaning than the original dunking, and would be somewhat demeaning to that original action.
I think it would be a shit thing to do.
Not saying that thinking about it or posting about it is a shit thing to do, but actually doing it would be.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think you may need to have a closer read of the link i posted that you liked Bill. The one that outlines various problems with both the tale told and the way it's told and the cutting out precisely of 'the crowd'.
I appreciate that most people outside the city - and to be honest, most people within the city - unless they have a direct link to the various hidden debates that have surrounded the last year that it took to get this going are going to be out of the loop somewhat. The idea that this has a smooth process with a universally applauded outcome is far from the truth, and, if anything, the display has brought those tensions directly to the public eye. People have been critically supportive and offered goodwill to some parts of the commission - to Dr Shawn Sobers in particular (and for me personally, an ex-poster from here who i totally trust to do the right thing) but from secretly taking MV money to MV's accidentally not appearing in the context-providing presentation is sorely testing a lot of people's patience. And that's without going into stuff that will only come into public view if it all collapses into (further) acrimony.
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Starry Wisdom
tbh i think the meaning depends who does it and why. i wouldn't have a problem with colston's statue being sent to davy jones' locker myself.
Fair enough. I have read it, and accept the points made, but its entirely possible my nephew and his mates have not. I still think removing it from where it is now would not be a positive move the way it's dunking in the river last year totally was.
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Protests against the exhibition from "Save Our Statues":
Campaigners try to block Edward Colston display at Bristol museum
Or as someone says in the article "‘We demand statues on our terms or not at all!’"
Campaigners try to block Edward Colston display at Bristol museum
Or as someone says in the article "‘We demand statues on our terms or not at all!’"
mx wcfc
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There's another thread with this on, but I couldn't find it.
The four people being prosecuted need funds to pay for their defence.
It's disappointing to see how badly the fundraiser is going - I'm sure it's just not widely enough known.
Anyway, I've been paid again since my last contribution - so I've chucked in again.
