Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

[el-ahrairah]

It is of course possible to go to Oxbridge and not be a twat / from a middle-class background.

this is definitely true. but it's about 95% twat / middle-class / middle-class twat.

that's a fact, according to my middle-class girlfriend who went to Oxford

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It is of course possible to go to Oxbridge and not be a twat / from a middle-class background.

The question is it is possible to leave Oxbridge and not be a twat/middle class?

 

[Ms T]

The question is it is possible to leave Oxbridge and not be a twat/middle class?

Yes to the first, no to the second.

 

[Ms T]

this is definitely true. but it's about 95% twat / middle-class / middle-class twat.

that's a fact, according to my middle-class girlfriend who went to Oxford

It is of course overwhelmingly middle-class, but that doesn't make you a twat.

 

[kittyP]

you know what can get to fuck? Wine and chocolate. Not sure what it's more a waste of.

Oooh a good red wine and a little nibble of 70% cocoa dark chocolate in the same mouthful is heaven!

 

[kittyP]

I am actually intrigued by this shop but doubt will have the money to go there.
We could all chip in and buy a case of prosecco and some cheese and go and sit in the park

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

England cricket team is another case in point, as the Times pointed out yesterday

Six of the nine schooled in the UK were educated in the private sector.

In 1983, it was only two out of 11.

IIRC at one point Phil 'Cor Blimey Geezer' Tufnell was the only private school educated player in the team.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I am actually intrigued by this shop but doubt will have the money to go there.
We could all chip in and buy a case of prosecco and some cheese and go and sit in the park

That sounds much nicer tbf.

 

[Thimble Queen]

I am actually intrigued by this shop but doubt will have the money to go there.
We could all chip in and buy a case of prosecco and some cheese and go and sit in the park

This is the best idea x

 

[pissflaps]

how many of those cricket players get in on some sort of cricket scholarship?

/i have no idea if such a thing even exists.

 

[Corax]

It is of course overwhelmingly middle-class, but that doesn't make you a twat.

Radical talk, that.

 

[fortyplus]

the problem with cricket is that thatcher and then blair sold off all the playing fields so only private schools have the space to teach the kids to play.

 

[Winot]

this is definitely true. but it's about 95% twat / middle-class / middle-class twat.

About the same as Urban75 then.

 

[el-ahrairah]

It is of course overwhelmingly middle-class, but that doesn't make you a twat.

that's why i sub-categorised between twats (of all classes) / the middle-classes (whether they're twats or not) / and middle-class twats. i'd draw it as a venn diagram but i cba

 

[el-ahrairah]

About the same as Urban75 then.

good spot

 

[DotCommunist]

how many of those cricket players get in on some sort of cricket scholarship?

/i have no idea if such a thing even exists.

gentlemans agreement. Sporting legends from the right school WILL be granted access to the right higher, because thats how its done. No need for formal rules old boy. Let us retire to the smoking room and play billiards and drink brandy while the ladies order the skivvies around cleaning up the remains of Lord Bastards most excellent repast *dons velvet jacket*

 

[trabuquera]

(derailing back to the original topic):
I can remember in the early 90s, being told quite proudly by Brixton residents of that era that the Marks & Sparks under the railway bridge sold more smoked salmon and champagne per sq ft than any other branch of M&S anywhere in the UK. And in those days this was a counterintuitive, stereotype-defying "well fancy that" surprise, not a boast. How things have changed.

Can't really welcome this as a business in the market, but I think realities of supply and demand will do the job on our behalf and put them out of business anyway. (Unless of course the denizens of Nob Towers aka "Brixton Square" decide to make it their local <shivers>)

 

[DietCokeGirl]

We could all chip in and buy a case of prosecco and some cheese and go and sit in the park

We should do this anyway. Urban picnic.

 

[Gramsci]

It is of course possible to go to Oxbridge and not be a twat / from a middle-class background.

Not what I was saying.

What Young was putting forward was the idea that meritocracy which would lead to elites would in future develop and entrench themselves in ways other than by bloodlines.

That education would become a filtering organisation for these new elites.

imo he has been proved correct.

Its not a matter of being a "twat". Anyone can be that.

The French philosopher Bourdieu looked at how social and cultural capital are important in modern societies in a way that parallels Young’s work.

 

[leanderman]

Anyway, champagne by the glass will be £8 or maybe £7. They 'are working on it'.

 

[George & Bill]

Good luck to 'em.

Restaurants should be judged on the quality of their food & service, not by who you think it will appeal to.

I don't mind any of the words you've used individually, but they are ill at ease in each others' company.

Or: are you totally thick? There are some excellent restaurants in London at which ~£100 a head will buy you a truly memorable experience. But if one doesn't have the requisite sum of money, the quality of food and service is academic - so yes, who a restaurant 'appeals to' (which I think is a slimy euphemism for 'is in practice accessible to') is deeply relevant, at least for anyone of remotely limited financial means who actually wishes to consume food there.

 

[pissflaps]

I don't mind any of the words you've used individually, but they are ill at ease in each others' company.

Or: are you totally thick? There are some excellent restaurants in London at which ~£100 a head will buy you a truly memorable experience. But if one doesn't have the requisite sum of money, the quality of food and service is of academic - so yes, who a restaurant 'appeals to' (which I think is a slimy euphemism for 'is in practice accessible to') is deeply relevant, at least for anyone of remotely limited financial means who actually wishes to consume food there.

i know this may sound rich, you probably need to stop over-analysing things.

and fuck you too.

 

[Jangleballix]

Champagne and frottage

Sham pain + frottage

 

[George & Bill]

i know this may sound rich, you probably need to stop over-analysing things.

and fuck you too.

So pointing out the relevance of asking whether the occupants of a place can actually afford to patronise establishments setting up in their midst is 'over-analysing'? I hope you never have children, or your brain may be called on to explain the plot of 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' - the analytical strain would give you an aneurysm.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

A shameless, cynical, novelty act.

It's like Rick Astley in a glittering gold jacket, clutching a kazoo, turning up to a jazz club and expecting to be taken seriously.

Just a bit of fun though right? Why so serious? Lighten up man, it's entertainment, it's only cheese, dude.

Aye, fuck off.

You need to reach astonishing levels of boredom and vacuity to feel the 'need' for champagne and cheese, or to feel comfortable sitting in a cafe selling fizz and churned milk for the bare LOLZ.

I guess it's a 'quirky and vibrant' leisure activity for unfulfilled people desperately seeking a status update or for first time buyers to take their Brixton-fearing parents to to thank them for the eye-watering deposit.

As for the business owners, chasing the money and chasing 'cool', why don't you fuck off to West London where you'll be appreciated by empty-headed full-walleted pricks who would take your arrival as a compliment rather than an insult to the intelligence?

I raise a glass of cheap vintage to you in the hope you lose money, close down and fuck off within six months. This is one strand of 'choice', 'variety' and 'diversity' we can live without.

Cheers, yeah?

Some people probably like champagne and cheese.

Surely it's no great injury if they get a place to go in Brixton?

 

[TruXta]

Some people probably like champagne and cheese.

Surely it's no great injury if they get a place to go in Brixton?

Fuck off.

 

[pissflaps]

So pointing out the relevance of asking whether the occupants of a place can actually afford to patronise establishments setting up in their midst is 'over-analysing'? I hope you never have children, or your brain may be called on to explain the plot of 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' - the analytical strain would give you an aneurysm.

So pointing out the relevance of asking whether the occupants of a place can actually afford to patronise establishments setting up in their midst is 'over-analysing'? I hope you never have children, or your brain may be called on to explain the plot of 'The Very Hungry Caterpillar' - the analytical strain would give you an aneurysm.

any points you may have are lost in your innability to make them without making bitchy ad hominem comments.

/ignored

 

[George & Bill]

any points you may have are lost in your innability to make them without making bitchy ad hominem comments.

/ignored

"I think you are a moron, therefore everything you say must be bullshit", = ad hominem.

"Everything you are saying seems to be bullshit, therefore I think you are a moron" = logical.

 

[yardbird]

Wow! brill!
I've just noticed this. I usually have to go to Brighton for quaff and dairylee - I may just pop up to Brixton and check out this place
Jolly dee!

 

[ibilly99]

Yes to the first, no to the second.

appen you're right lad.