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Rushy said:
Turns out the guy who served us (or ultimately didn't) is not a permanent member of staff but a cheese consultant who will shortly be leaving them once he has trained people up. They have had quite a few complaints about him and struggle to control him when they are not there, but hang onto him because he isn't always an an arse* and really knows his cheesy shit**. Apparently he's on the telly and people just love his abrasive personality. I'm clearly not in tune with the current trend for egotistical and petulant food connoisseur worship as his behaviour made me want to club him with a bottle of Colin***.

[*my words]
{**also my words]
[***yes really - Colin champagne].
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Its difficult not to love a champagne called Colin. Does the bottle have a face on it?
 
Manter said:
Its difficult not to love a champagne called Colin. Does the bottle have a face on it?
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Not that I remember - but one of the bottles came dangerously close to getting one.

[according to my gf :eek:]
 
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Eme reported that the place was packed tonight, with the crowd all being of a predictably narrow demographic.

I don't think that's a particularly good omen for the market.
 
Rushy said:
Turns out the guy who served us (or ultimately didn't) is not a permanent member of staff but a cheese consultant who will shortly be leaving them once he has trained people up. They have had quite a few complaints about him and struggle to control him when they are not there, but hang onto him because he isn't always an an arse* and really knows his cheesy shit**. Apparently he's on the telly and people just love his abrasive personality. I'm clearly not in tune with the current trend for egotistical and petulant food connoisseur worship as his behaviour made me want to club him with a bottle of Colin***.

[*my words]
{**also my words]
[***yes really - Colin champagne].
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:D:D

How do I get to be a cheese consultant? I really like the idea of getting paid to eat cheese, maybe washed down with a glass or three of something decent, to go on TV and to stand about in Brixton Market being a miserable c**t when I feel like it.
 
Winot said:
It seems that a combination of inequality and an effectively limitless supply of rich customers results in a failure of the 'free market' in supplying the needs of the poorest. I'd like to see more discussion on this.
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Well the free market isnt exactly known for its cornucopia of gifts for the poor - tends to like eating them up and spitting them out. In this case eating up anyone too close to the centre of London and spitting them out as far away as possible.

From what I can see we're in a transition from the soft socialism policies of post WW2 which created one of the things that has given London its character in my lifetime, that of on the whole richer and poorer people living side by side, social planning deliberately tried to mix up class composition of neighborhoods...and we're moving into a new era of London that looks more like cities where the market has been allowed to run free and naturally divide people up on class lines - Paris gets mentioned, but US cities do this the most dramatically by the sounds of it.

We're not there yet but short of a shift in mainstream politics its a done deal. Yes its bigger financial winds that are having an effect, but ultimately its government policy, like knocking down all the social housing in inner city areas (peckham and elephant are ones i know about) and lying about replacing that housing, forcing people on housing benefits out of richer areas with the rate cap, people getting rehoused in seaside towns, refusing to stand up to landlords and property speculators and so on - but its also a more general strategic shift in government policies, which basically no longer even pretend to give a shit about what happens to the poorest. Maybe this is because the so called we're-all-middle-class-now-middle class decide elections, or maybe it was always the case I dont know.

Maybe that Notting HIll film wasn't an embarrassing mistake but a planning document?
 
editor said:
Eme reported that the place was packed tonight, with the crowd all being of a predictably narrow demographic.
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and whose fault is that? why dont poor people just not buy a packet of fags one day and get their bubble on? Sounds like they're really missing out on some bargains
 
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leanderman said:
Annoyingly, the champagne is pretty good: Alexandre Le Brun, £7.50/glass, £25/bt). Two thirds red grapes makes it balanced, not acidic.

But I still can't see many people drinking there, not least because champagne is a waste of money. The cheese counter may work though.
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Isn't a bottle £45 not £25? Champagne is one of the few wines that still come in 125ml glasses as standard, making 6 glasses in a bottle. 6 x £7.50 = £45.
 
ska invita said:
Well the free market isnt exactly known for its cornucopia of gifts for the poor - tends to like eating them up and spitting them out. In this case eating up anyone too close to the centre of London and spitting them out as far away as possible.

From what I can see we're in a transition from the soft socialism policies of post WW2 which created one of the things that has given London its character in my lifetime, that of on the whole richer and poorer people living side by side, social planning deliberately tried to mix up class composition of neighborhoods...and we're moving into a new era of London that looks more like cities where the market has been allowed to run free and naturally divide people up on class lines - Paris gets mentioned, but US cities do this the most dramatically by the sounds of it.

We're not there yet but short of a shift in mainstream politics its a done deal. Yes its bigger financial winds that are having an effect, but ultimately its government policy, like knocking down all the social housing in inner city areas (peckham and elephant are ones i know about) and lying about replacing that housing, forcing people on housing benefits out of richer areas with the rate cap, people getting rehoused in seaside towns, refusing to stand up to landlords and property speculators and so on - but its also a more general strategic shift in government policies, which basically no longer even pretend to give a shit about what happens to the poorest. Maybe this is because the so called we're-all-middle-class-now-middle class decide elections, or maybe it was always the case I dont know.

Maybe that Notting HIll film wasn't an embarrassing mistake but a planning document?
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It may be as much cock-up as conspiracy.

Powers that be did not realise that, under EU free movement, among other factors, London would be so popular (7m to 9m, 2001-2018)

So they failed to build the necessary homes etc to cope. Forcing everyone further and further out.
 
A "free market" for essential goods and services, like housing and health is incapable of providing those goods and services in an equitable manner, that is not it's purpose. Those that are economically excluded from the market are blamed and then socially excluded. Capitalism does not give a shit whether you have a roof over your head or food in your belly. It's amoral and so are those that buy into this human tragedy.

Those that flaunt their wealth in Brixton now have nothing to fear, there is no resistance. They see the poverty, they screen themselves from it but they see it nonetheless. Biding their time, accumulating capital, not even waiting for the last of the barbarians to leave before congratulating themselves with a glass of champagne.
 
Dan U said:
I read that as behind the bar. Messy.
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my favourite bar, the Pits in belgium, has toilets inside the bar:
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Yelkcub said:
The efficiency gain would be lost to stage fright for me.
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Nah....it's easy. I've been to a few bars in france with a pisser in the bar and it's a great convenience. That is until you get pissed and try to hit the urinal without getting out of your seat.
 
Nanker Phelge said:
Nah....it's easy. I've been to a few bars in france with a pisser in the bar and it's a great convenience. That is until you get pissed and try to hit the urinal without getting out of your seat.
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Not easy for me. I just can't piss stood near anyone. At all. Never have been able to.
 
Enthusing about the 'right' sort of places in her neighbourhood also helps ensure that it maintains a direction that is comparable with her own self interest.

She wants to live in a 'nice' Brixton, so she will write and give great reviews to anything that fits her personal aspirations.
 
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