butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Whilst not changing or critiquing at all the reasons for the disgust at their existence.
Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon
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boohoo
No.
Not saying you are a snob. Anyway, so when were you in Brixton?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I've just explained the interconnected nature of british social relations to you. That response is pathetic.
I doubt anyone will be 'feeding their families' on these expensive cheeses.I have a mate who isn't really into pubs. When we hang out we might get a nice bottle of wine and a couple of decent steaks and chill in. Costs the same as a few pints in the local. Maybe next time we'll put a fiver towards up some nice cheese as well.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
tbf, katie hopkins is a vile tory bogeyman who has taken on mythical villain status, and for good reason.
it's like Michael Gove. There are various posts on the gove thread in which I, and others describe brutal acts of fantasy violence. It's not the same as someone making violently descriptive comments about some common or garden tory scummer. the latter would be much more worrying.
it's like Michael Gove. There are various posts on the gove thread in which I, and others describe brutal acts of fantasy violence. It's not the same as someone making violently descriptive comments about some common or garden tory scummer. the latter would be much more worrying.
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hiraethified
Put in another £2.50 and you can enjoy a small glass of champagne and watch the poor people go by!
boohoo
No.
I do not have the academic background to understand your responses. Please explain yourself more clearly.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think you've been given all the response that your question requires.
boohoo
No.
Really - that's a lazy response. I don't understand you. You can't be bothered to explain your thinking clearly to me when I asked. This just feels like someone looking down their nose at me.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I'm not, that's all your get back to communist russia response deserved though.
boohoo
No.
T & P
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Yes, that is what happened. But the C&F lot had no way of knowing how things would turn out.
Do you really think a group whose FB page, amongst other things, asks its followers to stab and shoot individuals and speaks of driving out 'scum' (i.e. 'you'), organises a party targeting you that attracts hundreds of likes is nothing to worry about? Really? Would you be cool and carefree if you were to open a business in an area new to you, and were specifically targeted by a local group with hundreds of followers and a website with more than its fair share of deeply unpleasant bile on it?
I have nothing but respect for those who turned up at the protest, even if I don't necessarily think it was productive, or the thing to do. But you cannot (or at least should not) ignore the fact that there were some pretty fucking unpalatable aspects to the 'official' FB campaign and those behind it.
butchersapron
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Fuck 'em. Jesus. I hope they did feel threatened. Forget your mealy mouthed nothing but respect lie - the whole point of it was to a) threaten them and b) organise mass threatening.
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hiraethified
Who are these "followers"who blindly go around stabbing, shooting and 'driving scum' out of an area just because a single post on a not-entirely-serious Facebook page says so? Oh, I know who they are. They're all in your head.
Or if you're still unsure that you're blowing it all out of proportion in a comically large fashion, ask yourself this: why do you think the place wasn't lined with riot cops ready to take on the mobs of gun-toting and knife wielding crazies?
And why were all the businesses open as usual, including the owner of Fish,Wings and Tings who happily came out to take photos for his own facebook page and have a chat and a laugh?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I think you're over-thinking things. I think they want to make some money.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Yeah. Brixton is now a 'foodie destination'. It's a very logical place for them to open.
I can help but think all this Yuppies Out stuff is 10 years too late. And u75 probably had a hand in Brixton's gentrification. It's certainly what lead to move moving in all those years ago.
I can help but think all this Yuppies Out stuff is 10 years too late. And u75 probably had a hand in Brixton's gentrification. It's certainly what lead to move moving in all those years ago.
T & P
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Way to avoid the question
What relevance does the eventual outcome have to the preceding campaign? Or do you think that if nothing materialises on the night, nothing that went on beforehand mattered?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I think you're under-thinking things. I think they know what they're doing.
This thread is funny in the way that there's so much under-thinking, though. It's like this shop just appeared out of nowhere, there's no meaning to how it's set up or to how and what it sells. It might as well be a qwerty and asdf shop. Oh but your pub sells qwerty for £1 less a uiop - you hypocrite. Why do you hate qwerty anyway, I like a nice uiop of qwerty every now and then, and they sell more asdf than they serve, and you can get asdf for less than beer.
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hiraethified
It appears that you're the only person who took those comments seriously.Way to avoid the question
Your attempts to suggest that this one comment amongst thousands made up some sort of credible threat strike me as rather odd - even more so considering the fact that they didn't even relate to the protest!
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hiraethified
One notable thing that did come out of talking to some of the traders yesterday was that most of the early units in the Village were taken over by local traders and local start ups, or people with local connections. That now has shifted to upmarket West End brands and chains looking to lucratively expand their franchise in the area. I'd say that makes a big difference.
T & P
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So a worrying about a group whose FB page has a range of material ranging from the regrettable to the outright deplorable and fucking unacceptable strikes you as odd because only part of it relates to their current campaign?
I guess we're not going to agree on anything here, but it does seem to me that you're going out of your way to dismiss certain stuff as insignificant that is nothing of the sort, and to brush aside perfectly justified concerns as unfounded hysteria.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Or you are posting unfounded hysteria (sexist) as fact in order to make certain stuff into perfectly justified concerns.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I'm a bit confused here - is this a new formulation entirely, "ineffectual middle class hipsters who were nevertheless violent anarchist bullies because of Facebook"? Good call if so, that's a new one which manages to get everything in with a bit of "social media = riots" stuff added.
butchersapron
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It's the new circle. We're outside of of course, being privileged one-eyed knobs.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Names are going to be named after this.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This for example
Its no accident that inequality is rising faster now than it did under Thatcher.
This is happening all over the country. Bristol, Brixton and Handsworth included.
What needs to be asked is why there is not more social conflict. As there was under Thatcher.
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hiraethified
Most of the material posted on that Facebook was 'outraged' people slagging off the event.
You haven't explained why these "perfectly justified concerns" brought no major response from the police or seemed to unduly perturb the shop units, who continued to trade as usual, by the way.
T & P
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Yeah, that's right. FB groups urging readers to stab and shot individuals and describing certain others as 'scum' and talking ceaselessly about forcing them out is perfectly normal, run-of-the-mill stuff, and anyone who thinks otherwise is completely over-reacting.
