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editor said:
This thread gets more surreal by the minute.

Where do these ultra-angry "sufficiently sized" and totally unrestrainable women hang out, and how might I end up getting into a violent contretemps with them?

Hang on, I think I know the answer: "in your head."
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What if Jane Couch got lairy? Trod on your trainers, spilled your pint, looked at your birs AND THEN called you a ponce?
 
I suppose it's just me, and we all know I'm destined for hell anyway, but I've got one of those unspeakable urges to put it to a practical test.

Along the lines of a female volunteer tormenting both Ed and teuchter and seeing which one of them snaps first.

Cheesy'd possibly be up for it cos it's like, an abstract creative solution to resolve this debate.
 
cesare said:
I suppose it's just me, and we all know I'm destined for hell anyway, but I've got one of those unspeakable urges to put it to a practical test.

Along the lines of a female volunteer tormenting both Ed and teuchter and seeing which one of them snaps first.

Cheesy'd possibly be up for it cos it's like, an abstract creative solution to resolve this debate.
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SHOUTS: STFU you clown! ;):D

Creative conflict resolution! Loving your work Ces!
 
editor said:
This thread gets more surreal by the minute.

Where do these ultra-angry "sufficiently sized" and totally unrestrainable women hang out, and how might I end up getting into a violent contretemps with them?

Hang on, I think I know the answer: "in your head."
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Can we do a poll to see whether people think it is conceivable that there exist in this world some women who might be stronger than some men, and that some men might not be able to physically restrain?

Would that be construed as some kind of call-out thread?




E2A: Cesare's proposal looks a lot more entertaining, however. Although I am not sure that I want to be one of the test subjects.
 
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil women.

Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak women through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his sisters keeper and the finder of lost children.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers T-shirts.

And you will know I am the MAN when I lay my vengeance upon you.
 
teuchter said:
Can we do a poll to see whether people think it is conceivable that there exist in this world some women who might be stronger than some men, and that some men might not be able to physically restrain?
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But it's not about 'some men.'

The question was specifically aimed at me, in an increasingly desperate attempt to back up your pissweak, crumbling 'argument.'
 
cesare said:
Along the lines of a female volunteer tormenting both Ed and teuchter and seeing which one of them snaps first..
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From years of running these boards, I already know what it's like to be tormented by annoying women, thanks. :D

But you note that you won't even find the slightest hint of a physical threat posted by me in retaliation anywhere here.
 
editor said:
But it's not about 'some men.'

The question was specifically aimed at me, in an increasingly desperate attempt to back up your pissweak, crumbling 'argument.'
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OK then, can we do a poll called:

"Who thinks there is a possibility that some day the Editor could meet a woman strong enough that he would not be able to physically restrain her?"

?
 
editor said:
From years of running these boards, I already know what it's like to be tormented by annoying women, thanks. :D

But you note that you won't even find the slightest hint of a physical threat posted by me in retaliation anywhere here.
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:)

 
cesare said:
Abstract thinking creative conflict resolution :cool: It's got a ring to it, I suppose. Although I prefer DEATHMATCH!
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Roadkill and I came up with the idea of "urbanite steel cage deathmatches" once when very drunk. I can't remember what our proposed first match was - probably Firky and El Jefe in a room full of Captain Beefheart records...
 
editor said:
From years of running these boards, I already know what it's like to be tormented by annoying women, thanks. :D

But you note that you won't even find the slightest hint of a physical threat posted by me in retaliation anywhere here.
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Now's the chance to see if your tolerance, restraint and general bonhomie works in a practical situation.

It could be an off-line special. One of these 'annoying women' all set up to prove both yours and teuchters' points. It's a no lose situation and happen it'll attract quite an audience.
 
editor said:
This thread gets more surreal by the minute.

Where do these ultra-angry "sufficiently sized" and totally unrestrainable women hang out, and how might I end up getting into a violent contretemps with them?

Hang on, I think I know the answer: "in your head."
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Again, you've edited out strong.

Me? Not that I have any intention of getting into a violent contretemps with you or anyone. I'm shorter than all but two posters on here, strong enough to lift up a 17 stone bouncer (or at least used to be, I haven't tested recently). If you were to happenstance upon me in a sufficiently angry/adrenalin-pumped state and a situation where you/anyone felt it was necessary to restrain me, I honestly believe you would have considerable difficulty in doing so. If I was a foot taller I seriously doubt you would be able to at all.

Please bear in mind, I'm not claiming I could beat you in a fight, just that your attempts at restraint could, not preposterously at all, prove insufficient in holding me from my target.
 
teuchter said:
"Who thinks there is a possibility that some day the Editor could meet a woman strong enough that he would not be able to physically restrain her?"
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OK, if it will shut you up here's one of those websites you're fishing for a link to:

See beautiful giantesses terrorizing little men

http://www. virtualgiantess2.com/

Really, there's plenty out there. You don't need to feel ashamed. Nobody's judging you here. ;)
 
teuchter said:
OK then, can we do a poll called:

"Who thinks there is a possibility that some day the Editor could meet a woman strong enough that he would not be able to physically restrain her?"

?
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You imagination gets weirder every day.

Why on earth do you think I'll end up having a row with a large, angry, powerful, nay strong, woman who'll become so uncontrollably violent and enraged that she'll attack me and then I'll realise she's too beefy for me to restrain that I'll be forced to punch her?

I can tell you that in over 40 years, the amount of times that the above scenario has come even remotely close to happening = 0 and I can see no earthly reason for that to change.

But seeing as you seem to be insisting that it's only a matter of time, how many times have you had to punch a woman right in the face because she was so crazed with anger you were unable to restrain her?

If the answer is also zero, you'll begin to look really, really foolish. :D
 
editor said:
You imagination gets weirder every day.

Why on earth do you think I'll end up having a row with a large, angry, powerful, nay strong, woman who'll become so uncontrollably violent and enraged that she'll attack me and then I'll realise she's too beefy for me to restrain that I'll be forced to punch her?

I can tell you that in over 40 years, the amount of times that the above scenario has come even remotely close to happening = 0 and I can see no earthly reason for that to change.

But seeing as you seem to be insisting that it's only a matter of time, how may times have you had to punch a woman right in the face because she was so crazed with anger* you were unable to restrain her?

If the answer is also zero, you'll begin to look really, really foolish.

(*mind you I'm learning just how infuriating you can be)
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Since childhood I have never hit a woman and I have never hit a man.

The fact that you don't already know this, which I have already very clearly stated, and repeated several times, supports my suspicion that you aren't really reading this thread properly.

And the fact that you think that this answer will make me look foolish suggests you are somehow misunderstanding the point I am trying to make.

This thread having descended into farce over the last few pages, perhaps we should try and start at the beginning again.

Here is the first post I made outlining the reasons why I am sometimes irritated by people saying "I would never hit a woman":

teuchter said:
If this is the reasoning, then people should say "I would never hit someone weaker than myself" instead of "I would never hit a woman".

The whole "I would never hit a woman thing" irritates me because by implication it means that sometimes it's OK to hit a man. Well, if there are situations where it is OK to hit a man, then there must be situations where it is OK to hit a woman.

Firstly, not all men are stronger/bigger than all women. They tend to be, but that doesn't mean there is never a situation where a woman is physically stronger than a man.

Secondly this whole attitude seems to suggest that relative strength or size are the only factors in someone being able to defend themselves. Well, they aren't. So making a judgement on whether someone can defend themselves based entirely on their size is flawed in the first place.

Thirdly: why should someone's ability to defend themselves be all that relevant anyway? This all assumes that they will fight back in the first place, and not everyone will. Even if I was large, strong and adept at fisticuffs I wouldn't want someone using that as a reason to excuse injuring me. Besides, if you are going to stick to the logic of "never hitting anyone weaker than you", then anyone bigger than you is prevented by these rules from hitting you back, therefore giving you an unfair advantage.

Fourthly there are lots of other factors which affect a judgement of whether or not hitting someone is OK, including for example provocation. If we are to stick to a strict "never hit women" (or even "never hit people smaller than you") rule we end up with nonsense situations. What is "worse": a small woman injuring a large man entirely without provocation, or a large man injuring a small woman having been deliberately and heavily provoked? I would say that the latter is "worse" but the silly "never hit a woman" rule would not allow this conclusion.

Personally I don't think it's ever OK to injure another person unless necessary in self defence or you have some kind of agreement between the two of you that you are both happy to engage in physical violence. Just before anyone pipes up saying that I am happy to hit women.
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Please pay particular attention to the last paragraph.

A little bit later, you made this post in which you said:

editor said:
So do you think that it's OK for a bloke to kick shit out of a woman if she's the same physical size as him because "gender is relevant" in a street fight?
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And to anyone who had read my previous post, the answer to that is an obvious "no". But from that point on you gave the impression that you were working on the assumption that this was my attitude (please correct me if I am wrong) which put me on the defensive somewhat.

There followed several pages of to-and-fro which didn't seem to be going anywhere and after a while I made this post in an attempt to explain to you what the point I am trying to make is:

teuchter said:
All you've made crystal clear is the fact that you'd never hit a woman. What you haven't made at all clear is when you/wouldn't hit a man. I'm not asking that in an attempt to suggest you are some sort of violent thug who goes about knocking people about. I'm asking because I suspect that the answer is that it would be only in very rare circumstances and as a last resort. In fact I'd guess your criteria are probably much the same as mine. In which case I'd ask you why you wouldn't apply the same criteria to a (possibly even more rare) circumstance involving a woman. And it seems that your only response to this is to say that it's so unlikely that it's not necessary to think about it, and accuse me of "point-scoring".

Whereas, as several (female) posters have pointed out, in actual fact it's not a flight of fancy that there should arise a situation where a woman might be stronger than a man.

In any case the only reason I'm pursuing this is in defence of my position (ie. that there is no reason why gender in itself should affect the rights and wrongs of hitting someone) which you and others, earlier in the thread, appeared to be attempting to portray as somehow unreasonable.
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And I wrote that post for the specific reason that you seemed not to be understanding why I was asking what I was asking, and were accusing me of "point-scoring" or somesuch.

Did you actually read that post? Because it feels to me like you didn't. I genuinely don't understand why you find it so "preposterous" to suggest that a man - it doesn't matter if it's you or me or someone else - might come into some kind of conflict situation with a woman who is physically stronger than him.

You seem to be implying that the reason you'd never hit a woman is that they'd always be weaker than you and therefore it would never be necessary. I am saying that is a false assumption. I am saying that if there is potential for a situation where you need to hit a man then there is potential for a situation where you need to hit a woman. It matters not a jot how unlikely either of them are. If it is possible, then your suggestion that it is never OK to hit a woman because it would never be "necessary" doesn't hold any water at all. It seems like a perfectly logical line of reasoning to me and yet you are acting like it is the most ridiculous argument in the history of the internet.

The fact is that several people contributing to this thread seem to agree with me that this is a reasonable argument to make, and that it is possible for a man to come into conflict with a woman stronger than him. The only people in disagreement, I think are you and chico enrico who has now embarrassed himself by letting his incoherent line of reasoning lapse into personal insult and off-topic nonsense. And yet you still seem to think I am pursuing some lunatic idea. Which is why I suggested the poll, which I am confident would reveal that most people consider a situation where a man comes into conflict with a woman stronger than him to be a perfectly possible one.

Having digested all that do you still maintain that I am a preposterous twerp or whatever it is you called me earlier?
 
editor said:
Why on earth do you think I'll end up having a row with a large, angry, powerful, nay strong, woman who'll become so uncontrollably violent and enraged that she'll attack me and then I'll realise she's too beefy for me to restrain that I'll be forced to punch her?
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There might be a terrible miscarriage of justice based on mistaken identity which sees you locked up in a really tough women's prison where the inmates are just not reasonable.

Then what?
 
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