Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[Treacle Toes]

It is the closest to home.

Spot on....shows us and our 'great nation' up, warts and all....Hits a nerve with all of us, whether or not we care to/dare to admit it. Makes us look at ourselves and what 'we' have become. Makes us take sides, look inside and face 'some' of our fears. Questions our principals, undermines what we spend so much energy/time pretending to be.

'I'm representing my country. Is this what the UK is today?'

 

[rocketman]

thing is, this has been exactly what C4 want. I'd on the one hand love all this to blow up in their faces, but on the other hand not because of what that might involve for the innocent parties

You mean Shilpa, H, Germaine and Dirk, right?

 

[Balbi]

Hmmm.

I am considering that due to the nature of my last post I will be called a sneering liberal and other such charges will be made against my politics and personality. White liberal, middle class, guardian reading, classist could all be applicable terms.

Apply away you cunts, cos you're still all wrong

 

[Dubversion]

You mean Shilpa, H, Germaine and Dirk, right?

yeh, shilpa in particular. FOr it to be so bad C4 get into the sort of serious shit they deserve might involve things becoming worse for shilpa, which isn't fair.

To be honest, Shilpa and I wouldn't get on, probably, and she sometimes hasn't made things easy for herself. But considering what and who she's up against, and the numerous disadvantages she's at in terms of understanding what's going on - and i don't just mean linguistically - she's definitely innocent in all this.

which is what's so depressing about all the twats on this thread - there's plenty to be angry with the three girls about, but the way they're expressing it just undermines every point they're making

 

[pagan]

I dont think Danielle is racist, she's mislead.

I think a damn good arse raping would sort her out.

Fuck the Mods...this cunt should be reported to the police, Mods?

 

[aqua]

I dont think Danielle is racist, she's mislead.

I think a damn good arse raping would sort her out.

thats totally unacceptable you're on very thin ice with attitudes like that round here

 

[Balbi]

Oh 5live is shocking as usual.

"shilpa out, she hates white people"

"jade won't be able to get a pint of milk from her corner shop"

A few voices of reason though.

But nevertheless

 

[Dubversion]

Fuck the Mods...this cunt should be reported to the police, Mods?

i'm led to believe DJ triviality - a sus username if ever i saw one - has been pulling shit like this all day. I haven't seen it, but i'm reliably informed - anyone?

 

[rocketman]

It's all the more bewildering because the people coming out with this crap are being as bad as the people they're slagging off. .

Not everyone is an intellectual giant. Humans are allowed to be inconsistent. The main thrust here - concerns of racism aside (and personally I do believe what's going on in there has racist overtones), is the bullying. The entire nation (with a few exceptions) is standing up to say that this awful travesty and torture of a human being is something we find abhorrent.

I don't think you're assesment is 100 per cent, you know.

If I understand what you think you are angry about people ending up saying things like "Jade's fat" as if that were an argument in itself.

She may or may not be considered fat, it does depend what you think thin is, but that's just a body anyway, not an argument, and in its way as prejudiced a way of looking at things as judging someone by the colour of their skin.

But she is a bully, an idiot, a loudmouth and (I believe) a bigot. And it's time to stop celebrating her ignorance as positive element of UK culture.

Right now - and this will be global news tomorrow, at least across the Far and Middle East - the situation stands as follows:

Representing India, the Middle and Far East: Shilpa
Representing the UK: Jade

Does that make you proud to be British?

Cos it does nothing for me,

 

[Treacle Toes]

Oh 5live is shocking as usual.

"shilpa out, she hates white people"

"jade won't be able to get a pint of milk from her corner shop"

A few voices of reason though.

But nevertheless

Like i said, warts and all.

 

[tommers]

jo just asked danielle if she can poo while "teddy" is in the house.

 

[iROBOT]

Originally Posted by DJ Triviality
I dont think Danielle is racist, she's mislead.

I think a damn good arse raping would sort her out.

It's not even original, it's a quote (more a paraphrase) from Martin Amis's "Money"

So not only do we have a sick misogynist but now "it" proves itself to be a plagiarist.

Sussed

 

[PJW20]

anyone?

 

[clandestino]

so did anyone else find that diary room scene with danielle very suspect.

Like either it was fed / scripted to allay controversy, or to give a hint to people in the house that they need to moderate their behaviour?

it seemed very convenient, very false, very placatory.

Totally. It was a warning. You could see the fear on Danielle's face as the penny dropped.

 

[Balbi]

Like i said, warts and all.

Aye, in a way it's gratifying for everyone to be in such a fucking tizz over this.

Nothing sounds louder than the alarm clock in the middle of the night, and in this case the bells are ringing and it's certainly fucking dark outside

 

[Dubversion]

Not everyone is an intellectual giant. Humans are allowed to be inconsistent. The main thrust here - concerns of racism aside (and personally I do believe what's going on in there has racist overtones), is the bullying. The entire nation (with a few exceptions) is standing up to say that this awful travesty and torture of a human being is something we find abhorrent.

I don't think you're assesment is 100 per cent, you know.

If I understand what you think you are angry about people ending up saying things like "Jade's fat" as if that were an argument in itself.

She may or may not be considered fat, it does depend what you think thin is, but that's just a body anyway, not an argument, and in its way as prejudiced a way of looking at things as judging someone by the colour of their skin.

But she is a bully, an idiot, a loudmouth and (I believe) a bigot. And it's time to stop celebrating her ignorance as positive element of UK culture.

Right now - and this will be global news tomorrow, at least across the Far and Middle East - the situation stands as follows:

Representing India, the Middle and Far East: Shilpa
Representing the UK: Jade

Does that make you proud to be British?

Cos it does nothing for me,

i don't know what half of what you've just posted has to do with anything i've posted. Where have i celebrated her ignorance, claimed it made me proud to be british, or anything. I've criticised her behaviour. Doesn't mean i'm not allowed to take issue with what other people think passes for acceptable criticism, or 'funny' jokes about rape.

 

[Balbi]

rocketman, those 'few exceptions' could be as much as 60/40 split either way

 

[Dubversion]

I think you're concentrating on the actions of a few arseholes. Most people here aren't going in for that kind of stuff. Just a few.

As usual, they are the loudest.

i don't know what you mean. Most people aren't saying that sort of thing, no, but then in that case there's nothing to take issue with. I'm only taking issue with the really unpleasant posts.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Aye, in a way it's gratifying for everyone to be in such a fucking tizz over this.

Gratifying for some, but I believe the frenzy is anxiety for others....a massive panic attack as the 'nation' takes a long hard look....

 

[rocketman]

Doesn't mean i'm not allowed to take issue with what other people think passes for acceptable criticism, or 'funny' jokes about rape.

I didn't mention the rape thing, personally the bloke (it must be a bloke) who came up with that probably wishes they hadn;t said it now (I hope), (Hint to bloke: Use the Edit button).

You can take issue with whatever you like here, Dub, and I am glad to see that other than all netizen's pathological need to communicate with their technology, pretty much everyone agrees that what's going on in there is reprehensible, albeit in different ways, and with different articulation.

 

[Balbi]

That's the thing Rutita, I really am not one for the 'nation' at all.

For some it's good to see others jump out of their chair and scream.

For other's its depressing, because they only reason they're screaming is because it's the advert break.

Ah well.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

i'm led to believe DJ triviality - a sus username if ever i saw one - has been pulling shit like this all day. I haven't seen it, but i'm reliably informed - anyone?

I agree, mostly, with your points in this thread but what is wrong with the idiot's username? Should I have run mine by you before registering?

 

[rocketman]

rocketman, those 'few exceptions' could be as much as 60/40 split either way

Could be. But all the surveys and polls I've seent today say that the percentages aren't that. But then again, if I tried to pull a figure out to answer yours, it would also be based on no hard data. "Could" isn't a statistical assesment.

 

[Balbi]

Former posters often come in with names which can be linked to their past, THC.

 

[Treacle Toes]

That's the thing Rutita, I really am not one for the 'nation' at all.
.

I understand...I'm not the most nationalist of folk either, hence me putting 'nation' in speech marks....it's a perceived concept.

 

[tommers]

I didn't mention the rape thing, personally the bloke (it must be a bloke) who came up with that probably wishes they hadn;t said it now (I hope), (Hint to bloke: Use the Edit button).

or... he likes to drop stones into pools and watch the ripples.

that seems to have been a big stone.

 

[Dubversion]

I agree, mostly, with your points in this thread but what is wrong with the idiot's username? Should I have run mine by you before registering?

no, that's not what i meant. probably can't explain my suspicions without opening up a whole other can of worms, but it's not about the suitability of the name, it's about the particular people who might find it funny.

 

[Balbi]

Could be. But all the surveys and polls I've seent today say that the percentages aren't that. But then again, if I tried to pull a figure out to answer yours, it would also be based on no hard data. "Could" isn't a statistical assesment.

Fair play, I am busted for statistic creation. But for everyone who votes on an online poll, or answers the question in the street you've got to consider that the media have painted it as bad already, the furore's on the floor in the House at PMQ's and there'll be any awful lot of people who'll either outright lie, or not vote at all.

 

[Treacle Toes]

That's the thing Rutita, I really am not one for the 'nation' at all.

For some it's good to see others jump out of their chair and scream.

For other's its depressing, because they only reason they're screaming is because it's the advert break.

Ah well.

To be fair, for some of us, it simply underlines what we've always known/felt/experienced.

 

[Balbi]

I understand...I'm not the most nationalist of folk either, hence me putting 'nation' in speech marks....it's a perceived concept.

Another Anderson reader?

E2A: And that post above this one is one I can't really comment on at all. I'm a middle class white boy whose never caught any crap like that anyway. And then you realise there's a whole dimension on it that you can't even get your head around. Bit of a nail chewer that.