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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

RaverDrew said:
So every comment I make from now on is aimed at you, regardless of whether I have quoted you ? :confused:

And all because I engaged with you a few pages back ?? :confused:

Love your logic :D No really I do :rolleyes:

Not what I said but anyway....:rolleyes:
 
The Sick Anchor said:
i'm not expecting anyone to do anything about it

my only involvement on this thread was to highlight the hypocrisy of the holier than thou bandwagon that seems to have been kick started today on the national news & media


Well I agree with you if thats the case, though I haven't actually seen it. I find the mainstream press so depressing I don't read it.
 
N_igma said:
If I was there I'd say my name as clearly as possible to avoid as little confusion as possible, I wouldn't just do it in some rogue Irish accent just to piss someone off. Hey, maybe it's just me. :confused:

You are suggesting Shilpa's Indian accent is rogue?
 
Rutita1 said:
You are suggesting Shilpa's Indian accent is rogue?

No, he's saying that it's the Indian person's job to speak in a way a thick cockney can understand, and not a thick cockney's job to make the effort to understand. Which of course Jackie wasn't gonna try to do (understand that is) because she's an ignorant racist, but is sadly too stupid to realise it.
 
What's been going on in here, then? :eek: I dunno, young people these days! ;)

Anyone see the tabloid press today? Totally bizarre. OK, they've got wind of complaints made about "racism" on CBB. But then to explain what the complaints were about, they give examples which just don't show racism at all. (Like Danielle calling Shilpa a "dog"). Like I said earlier on in the thread, it's clear the three younger girls don't like Shilpa, but that isn't necessarily racism.

It isn't racist to hate someone who is Indian - it's racist to hate them because they're Indian.

Now, I don't watch the live feeds, but the only exchange I saw which could be interpreted as evidence of racist undertones is the one about touching food, Indians being skinny because they've all got food poisoning etc.

If there is racism (and I still say if), then it was Jo and Dani.

But the tabloid press - to a paper - seem to think Jade is the ring-leader. I have to say I've seen no evidence of that at all. Nor, for what it's worth, do I think she's the ring-leader of any bullying (which there is evidence of); Danielle is the ring leader of that. And once more in tonight's highlights, she showed her two-faces to the cameras. Has she forgotten she's being filmed?

Jade, unlike Dani, has not been two-faced - she's been up-front and straight forward.
 
rocketman said:
No, he's saying that it's the Indian person's job to speak in a way a thick cockney can understand, and not a thick cockney's job to make the effort to understand. Which of course Jackie wasn't gonna try to do (understand that is) because she's an ignorant racist, but is sadly too stupid to realise it.
Judging by her action I'd say Jade is a racist, whilst I do not think Jermain Jackson is...he got a white brother ffs!!

Gets coat.
 
Rutita1 said:
You are suggesting Shilpa's Indian accent is rogue?

No. When Jackiey asked her her name, she said it in her accent. It was different from the way she normally talks. There's a difference in having an Irish/Indian twang in your English and actually saying a name the way it's pronounced in Ireland/India. That's what I'm getting at.

And rocketman, stop being a twat, doesn't suit you.

Looking at Jackiey and looking at how Jade turned out, it doesn't look as if they're the most educated people with the joys of multiculturalism through their veins. So I can definately understand the undertone of working class-bashing here as someone else pointed out. So fuck if she can't pronounce a name, did she say all Indians should be hanged, no.
 
iROBOT said:
Judging by her action I'd say Jade is a racist, whilst I do not think Jermain Jackson is...he got a white brother ffs!!

Gets coat.

Jade's got* a black father ;)











*Had. Now dead.
 
I couldn't understand The Mirror's take on it today.

Getting into a right old tizz about the percieved racism towards Shilpa whilst at the same time referring to Jade and her mob as "a genuine family of pikeys"
 
iROBOT said:
Judging by her action I'd say Jade is a racist, whilst I do not think Jermain Jackson is...he got a white brother ffs!!

Gets coat.

I'm not talking about Germaine, I'm talking about Jade's mum, Jackie.
Just to clarify that.
 
danny la rouge said:
What's been going on in here, then? :eek: I dunno, young people these days! ;)

Anyone see the tabloid press today? Totally bizarre. OK, they've got wind of complaints made about "racism" on CBB. But then to explain what the complaints were about, they give examples which just don't show racism at all. (Like Danielle calling Shilpa a "dog"). Like I said earlier on in the thread, it's clear the three younger girls don't like Shilpa, but that isn't necessarily racism.

It isn't racist to hate someone who is Indian - it's racist to hate them because they're Indian.

Now, I don't watch the live feeds, but the only exchange I saw which could be interpreted as evidence of racist undertones is the one about touching food, Indians being skinny because they've all got food poisoning etc.

If there is racism (and I still say if), then it was Jo and Dani.

But the tabloid press - to a paper - seem to think Jade is the ring-leader. I have to say I've seen no evidence of that at all. Nor, for what it's worth, do I think she's the ring-leader of any bullying (which there is evidence of); Danielle is the ring leader of that. And once more in tonight's highlights, she showed her two-faces to the cameras. Has she forgotten she's being filmed?

Jade, unlike Dani, has not been two-faced - she's been up-front and straight forward.


You're back to if again, Jermaine saying he thinks it is racist doesn't cut it with you then.

I'm not sure why Jade is above the others either!:confused:
 
exosculate said:
You're back to if again, Jermaine saying he thinks it is racist doesn't cut it with you then.
Not necessarily. He might just be paranoid. If he's basing it on stuff I haven't seen, then he could be right. But I can only go on what I've seen.
 
Nine Bob Note said:
Jade's got* a black father ;)

Now that's an interesting thought, and leads to discussions on black/indian racism, and I'm not going in that direction. As according to the CRE it does not exist.
 
rocketman said:
Now that's an interesting thought, and leads to discussions on black/indian racism, and I'm not going in that direction. As according to the CRE it does not exist.
Yes lets not...
 
Excellent analysis Mr. la rouge, I concur.
Jade is argumentative, loud and high-profile - I've watched with some alarm as the press and forums have put her forward as the instigator of all Shilpa's troubles when in reality she just seems to have been her usual annoying self. Danielle and Jo appear to be being let off the hook to some extent here when imo they're far more to blame.

Jade (who I have little time for in all honesty) appears to be being hung out to dry by the media for past sins rather than present. It just remains to be seen if Endemol are willing to ditch her or not. Expect a rescue mission starting tomorrow unless things get totally out of hand.
 
N_igma said:
No. When Jackiey asked her her name, she said it in her accent. It was different from the way she normally talks.
I disagree. She said in in her own accent. She didn't put on a especially 'thick' version for Jackiey. Sometimes my accent is more cockney than others but not because I'm trying.
 
danny la rouge said:
What's been going on in here, then? :eek: I dunno, young people these days! ;)

Anyone see the tabloid press today? Totally bizarre. OK, they've got wind of complaints made about "racism" on CBB.<snip>Jade, unlike Dani, has not been two-faced - she's been up-front and straight forward.

I'm not sure they've been racist at all but they (the 3 witches of westwick) have deffo been bullying one other person relentlessly and remorselessly. And there are racial overtones to the overarching bullying and aggression, imo.
 
rocketman said:
Now that's an interesting thought, and leads to discussions on black/indian racism, and I'm not going in that direction. As according to the CRE it does not exist.
Eh? The CRE says black folk can't be racist towards Indians/Asians? Is that by definition? Or what?
 
RaverDrew said:
I couldn't understand The Mirror's take on it today.

Getting into a right old tizz about the percieved racism towards Shilpa whilst at the same time referring to Jade and her mob as "a genuine family of pikeys"

im with you raver, its all a tad hysterical...........again:rolleyes:
 
rocketman said:
yeah, but my dad's bigger than your dad.

Can we move on, please?

Move on from what? You were being a twat and I pointed you out. End of story.

*Waits for you to have last word* :rolleyes: :D
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
I'm not sure they've been racist at all but they (the 3 witches of westwick) have deffo been bullying one other person relentlessly and remorselessly. And there are racial overtones to the overarching bullying and aggression, imo.


As i said earlier... low self esteem is at the heart of this not ingrained racism ffs
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
I'm not sure they've been racist at all but they (the 3 witches of westwick) have deffo been bullying one other person relentlessly and remorselessly. And there are racial overtones to the overarching bullying and aggression, imo.


Whatever the reason, its severe bullying because a person is culturally differetn from all three of them. And that to me is very out of order.
 
No, Jade's easily manipulated. It's Danielle who is driving this, clearly. Don't like that person. Jade's mum didn't help. And Jade's her mum's daughter. Still - she's had her fifteen minutes, ain't she? What did she expect? All she did was win a reality TV show.
 
RaverDrew said:
Getting into a right old tizz about the percieved racism towards Shilpa whilst at the same time referring to Jade and her mob as "a genuine family of pikeys"

A very good example why I don't read or buy tabloid newspapers.
 
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