Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[exosculate]

So is "black bastard", for example.

I'm starting to really understand how racism against white people is the last acceptable type of racism to voice

 

[Treacle Toes]

white trash is a well known expression, divvy

It's offensive, Divvy

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'm starting to really understand how racism against white people is the last acceptable type of racism to voice

Mmmmmmmmmm FWIW it was voiced here by a black person...

 

[danny la rouge]

I couldn't watch much of that - that Dannielle was doing my head it. Stupid wee lassie.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Yeah, OK but why is it "assumed"?

And why would they bleep it out? If he's racist scum we need to know. Who are they protecting?

I assumed "cunt" at the time - they always bleep out cunt, but they allow a certain amount of fucks per exchange, depending on the time it airs.

As i said, i thought 'bitch' or 'cunt'...

 

[maximilian ping]

Doesn't make it acceptable.

i know but rutita seemed like or was pretending they had never heard the expression. i quite like it, but then maybe its because i used to get called it in a kind of affectionate way by some Acton asians i used to hang out with. its better than 'chavs'.

what i meant by calling them white trash is their thick, small town attitude to the indian/paki/princess (wotever they are calling her) shilpa. they can't fathom her so they just gang up against her like the dense fuckwits they are

 

[Treacle Toes]

I couldn't watch much of that - that Dannielle was doing my head it. Stupid wee lassie.

Got more interesting or telling towards the end because Dani was trashed and got confused, Jade backed dowb because she had no clue what she was talking about and Jermaine and H were comforting Shipla.

 

[exosculate]

Mmmmmmmmmm FWIW it was voiced here by a black person...

That doesn't matter. Lets call it chavism, anyone can do that.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm starting to really understand how racism against white people is the last acceptable type of racism to voice

What are you saying? That I'd challenge racism against white people but not otherwise?

I challenge racism wherever I see it, but I dislike the phrase 'white trash' because of the "trash" element. It is a class thing, in my view. And I very much dislike it.

I have no idea what ethnicity maximilian ping is. I was merely pointing out that because a phrase is well-known it doesn't make it acceptable.

 

[maximilian ping]

It's offensive, Divvy

what's wrong with being offensive in the right context, divnuts

 

[Treacle Toes]

i know but rutita seemed like or was pretending they had never heard the expression.

I was expressing my dislike of the phrase. Of course I've heard it.

what i meant by calling them white trash is their thick, small town attitude to the indian/paki/princess (wotever they are calling her) shilpa. they can't fathom her so they just gang up against her like the dense fuckwits they are

I agree with your sentiments but still wouldn't use the term 'White trash' myself. Trash, yes!

 

[danny la rouge]

what i meant by calling them white trash is their thick, small town attitude

You mean they're working class and provincial?

 

[exosculate]

What are you saying? That I'd challenge racism against white people but not otherwise?

I challenge racism wherever I see it, but I dislike the phrase 'white trash' because of the "trash" element. It is a class thing, in my view. And I very much dislike it.

I have no idea what ethnicity maximilian ping is. I was merely pointing out that because a phrase is well-known it doesn't make it acceptable.

Eh?

Its not directed at you, its a general point about what is acceptable to society these days.

 

[Treacle Toes]

what's wrong with being offensive in the right context, divnuts

It's rather childish, inarticulate and generally gets in the way of reasoning.

 

[maximilian ping]

You mean they're working class and provincial?

no, white trash

 

[danny la rouge]

Its not directed at you,

It's just that you quoted me, then made the comment.

[posting etiquette advice] Maybe in future if you're going to quote someone, make the comments relevant to the quote. Or don't quote them.[/posting etiquette advice]

 

[danny la rouge]

no, white trash

I find that offensive, and I've explained why - it writes off a class of people as human garbage.

 

[maximilian ping]

It's rather childish, inarticulate and generally gets in the way of reasoning.

c'mon, youve called someone an upper class prick, for eg, before?

 

[exosculate]

It's just that you quoted me, then made the comment.

[posting etiquette advice] Maybe in future if you're going to quote someone, make the comments relevant to the quote. Or don't quote them.[/posting etiquette advice]

Sorry, i'm tired, I was trying to concur that saying black bastard (as you did ironically) would be seen as far worse than saying white trash or chav.

Admittedly I didn't explain it too well.

 

[danny la rouge]

It's cool. I'm "tired", too, as it happens.

 

[maximilian ping]

I find that offensive, and I've explained why - it writes off a class of people as human garbage.

ok will stop it. i mean to insult them, not you

 

[danny la rouge]

ok will stop it. i mean to insult them, not you

Cheers. I agree they deserve to be insulted, it's just that the insults could be better-directed. An insult sniper, if you will, rather than an insult of mass destruction.

 

[Treacle Toes]

c'mon, youve called someone an upper class prick, for eg, before?

YEs I have. Don't have call to use it myself. Probably say snob if I had to.
You know what I don't like about the phrase 'white trash',it's obvious ....Trash behaviour isn't racially specific, so shouldn't be popularly accepted as such.

 

[Treacle Toes]

An insult sniper, if you will, rather than an insult of mass destruction.

 

[8ball]

Hmmm. Don't you read?

I was watching the inaccurate caricaturing of autistic people on ITV - back on track now

 

[danny la rouge]

I was watching the inaccurate caricaturing of autistic people on ITV

Were they showing Rainman again?

 

[8ball]

Nah, Mercury Rising.

They got a few of the little things right, to be fair but, well, you know Hollywood.

 

[danny la rouge]

Haven't seen that, but because of Bruce Willis being in it.

 

[8ball]

You have something against Bruce Willis?

You don't even concede that he was great in 12 Monkeys?

 

[danny la rouge]

You have something against Bruce Willis?

I want to do violence when I see his smug, conceited face. The arsehole.

You don't even concede that he was great in 12 Monkeys?

I haven't watched anything with him in it since Moonlighting. Even thinking about him makes me nauseous.