Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[danny la rouge]

I think he said 'indigenous English people'.

He did. And he said it with a twinkle in his eye, so he knew he was talking bollocks; he was trying to wind Shilpa up. But she wasn't amused by that point.

 

[ZAMB]

Now they choose to announce that they're going to teach 'Britishness' in schools. The indy points out that their timing is a bit off.

With the questioning of a highly articulate Indian woman's grasp of English by a semi-literate glamour model from Liverpool fresh in the ears, and with the vision of compatriots wading into the sea to snag their treasure trove of cosmetics and engine parts still firmly in the mind's eye, the Education Secretary, Alan Johnson, picks a fine moment to re-roast this manky old chestnut.

The congruence of those recent TV pictures, from the Celebrity Big Brother house and Branscombe Bay, seems to crystallise this nebulous sense that Britain has become unpalatably coarsened and grasping. Whatever the part played by racism in the CBB row, more chilling to me has been the anguished bemusement of the foreign contestants at the obscenity-scattering mindlessness of the young white English people with whom they found themselves trapped. If this is what Britain has become, as Shilpa put it, "it's scary".

Her seclusion has spared her that other manifestation of core values on the beach at Branscombe Bay, but the sight of people helping themselves to that cargo until they couldn't walk under the weight of it would have done nothing to reassure her.

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/matthew_norman/article2186497.ece

 

[danny la rouge]

Now they choose to announce that they're going to teach 'Britishness' in schools.

I don't feel British. I don't even know what it means, other than a name for these islands we live on, and a name for the state that rules most of them. It's a political construct, and I think defining it will prove difficult.

What is it? - Rowies, skirlie and Robbie Sheppard? - Salt and sauce, maroon buses and Rose Street? - Welsh cake, leeks, and the Eisteddfod?

 

[han]

Working class scouse - Ringo.

Middle Class scouse - Paul.

Yep - there's a BIIIIG difference.

 

[Stigmata]

I don't feel British. I don't even know what it means, other than a name for these islands we live on, and a name for the state that rules most of them. It's a political construct, and I think defining it will prove difficult.

What is it? - Rowies, skirlie and Robbie Sheppard? - Salt and sauce, maroon buses and Rose Street? - Welsh cake, leeks, and the Eisteddfod?

It's whatever the government says it is, of course.

 

[han]

Jermaine to win! Jermaine is a lovely, lovely man.

 

[dynamicbaddog]

Jermaine to win! Jermaine is a lovely, lovely man.

agreed. He's been very dignified throughout this whole thing

 

[HarrisonSlade]

I want Jermaine or Dirk to win. Jermaine preferably.

Wasn't Dirk saying last night that in ENgland white women have 1.3 children and Indian women have 3.5 children (average) and there are now more Indians than white people in England. Did I misread the gist of that? What do people make of that? Peculiar I thought.

This view, IMO, is far more sinister than some young kids behaving like racist yobs. It is a view held by many older racists that non whites procreate on a much larger scale than white people on the basis of poorer communities in foreign lands of which are oppressed by dictators implemented by a more powerful West. It is the view of Tories, the American Republican Party and the heirarchy of the BNP.

But, hey, he was in some trendy but dull repetitive nostalgiafest from the 80s so we'll let the right wing racist cunt off shall we? I mean, a kneejerk reaction so lame that Spike Milligan would have rolled his eyes from a stupid 20 something year old is far more offensive than a premeditated belief from an astute 50 something.

 

[HarrisonSlade]

Jermaine to win! Jermaine is a lovely, lovely man.

I admire him for the fact that he didn't just stick up for his brother. But even converted to Islam to stand in solidarity with his fetishes.

 

[N_igma]

Jermaine to win! Jermaine is a lovely, lovely man.

I agree, not a bad bone in his body. Wouldn't say he'd be much craic in the pub though for a lock of pints.

 

[Celt]

Jermaine to win! Jermaine is a lovely, lovely man.

He is apparently a very nice man - but I am just a little reserved about a man who calls his son Jermajesty

 

[Lisarocket]

He is apparently a very nice man - but I am just a little reserved about a man who calls his son Jermajesty

He's got one called Dave too if that makes any difference

 

[exosculate]

OK who wants to predict the order of evictions?

 

[dynamicbaddog]

OK who wants to predict the order of evictions?

my guess is first out - Danielle,
then Ian,
Dirk,
Jack,
Shilpa,
and the winner will be Jermaine

 

[girasol]

Go Dirk!

(yes, I'm fickle)

 

[jiggajagga]

OK who wants to predict the order of evictions?

dan
jack
ian
Jermanie
Dirk
Shilpa

 

[zoooo]

Danielle
Jack
Jermaine
Ian
Shilpa
Dirk

 

[han]

I want Jermaine to win - but I wouldn't mind if Shilpa won either....but would definitely prefer Jermaine!

He's gorgeous!

Manly - gentle - kind - cute ------ahhhhh

 

[exosculate]

I want Jermaine to win - but I wouldn't mind if Shilpa won either....but would definitely prefer Jermaine!

He's gorgeous!

Manly - gentle - kind - cute ------ahhhhh

Yeah but han - whats your order for eviction. I'm sure on the first three but cant make my mind up on the order of the last three.

 

[Lisarocket]

Danielle
Jack
Ian
Jermaine
Shilpa
Dirk

Not really bothered about the order of the top 3. As long as Danielle goes out first tonight...

 

[jiggajagga]

I want Shilpa or Dirk to win because at least they have personality, style, experience, wit, wisdom, etc etc, and not just georgeous tits or legs or a six pack!!
It will make a pleasant change if Dirk does win. I would be nice for an older man to win in this 'Brave New World'

Question: I seem to remember a couple of gay men in the house over the series. Has there ever been a lesbian in the house?

 

[zoooo]

Kitten was.

And millions of girls who claimed to be bisexual in order to titillate men. If that helps?

Or do you just mean the celeb version.

 

[tommers]

Kitten was.

And millions of girls who claimed to be bisexual in order to titillate men. If that helps?

Or do you just mean the celeb version.

and anna. lesbian nun.

 

[dynamicbaddog]

Kitten was.

.

and there was Anna from the first series.

 

[zoooo]

And that bald girl... Nicola?

 

[jiggajagga]

Kitten was.
Or do you just mean the celeb version.

Sorry, yes I did mean celeb. I wasn't asking for titilation by the way, just wondered about equality and all that.
With the life I've had I'd rather have a good cack by the way! You havent got to cuddle it after and tell it how much you love it!

 

[academia]

Can't think of many sleb lesbians? Can you?

 

[Lisarocket]

On a whim i bought Dirk's book 'confessions of a Kamikaze Cowboy' and have juts finished reading it. It gives a good insight into his thought processes, but i am left wondering exactly why he decided to go into BB.

Considering how much he believes his macrobiotic diet has brought him good health and cured his prostrate cancer i can't believe how he has managed to calmly sit watching Danielle munching chicken nuggets and chips, pop and ice cream and stayed relatively silent about it.

After reading about his life and beliefs surrounding the ying and yang of foodstuffs i think he deserves a medal for being so laid back with some of the housemetes he's been forced to live with. Especially the ones who just thought his rice and beans diet was cause for hilarity.

We haven't really seen the spiritual side in BB that i've been reading about the last few days...

 

[zoooo]

I can't either!

Except for the stalwart obviouses KD Lang and Ellen.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Is it the final tonight`?