Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[academia]

What Dirk and Jermaine said about Indians was interesting, wasn't it? Who hasn't said anything about Indians? Maybe they'll win

I think there's a constant amount of racial stereotyping that MUST exist in the BB house at all times.
With Jo gone it's now up to Dirk and Jermaine to maintain the balance.

 

[Orang Utan]

why?

why is an act of racism less offensive if it's not being televised?

I'm talking about a televised act of racism which is of course more shocking when expressed 'live' than in some documentary when the viewer is usually forewarned.

 

[Kanda]

Personal opinion: Understanding traditional Indian women - ya need to know one or two...

What I have read on DS or here, that doesn't seem to be the case of most people

 

[academia]

Traditional Indian women you say.... ?

 

[tommers]

Personal opinion: Understanding traditional Indian women - ya need to know one or two...

What I have read on DS or here, that doesn't seem to be the case of most people

educate us...

 

[danny la rouge]

while the supposed victim sits in the diary room saying she's had a fantastic time.

Remember Shilpa hasn't seen all that was said - much of the worst of what Danielle said was out of her earshot.

In fact the tapes of Danielle being two-faced, trying to wriggle out of what she realised was a serious matter by landing Jade in it etc are what turned Jade against her outside the house, and what will damage other housemates' opinion of her.

Endemol has fed Jade to the wolves, then orchestrated things to dissipate any rumbling controversy - that's why Jo came out simultaneously with Cleo. Endemol has behaved appallingly throughout, at each turn taking the least ethical decision. I hope they are spurned after this, but I suspect they won't be.

 

[tommers]

Endemol has fed Jade to the wolves, then orchestrated things to dissipate any rumbling controversy - that's why Jo came out simultaneously with Cleo.

yep. exactly.

 

[Kanda]

educate us...

Oh god, I'm not getting called out on this in my state...

Just my experience of Indian girls (g/f of 6 years) is one of tolerance, understanding and very little spite etc... (the opposite of the scary fuckers she is in there with)

I prolly should go into more detail but am too fucked to right now.

 

[The Sick Anchor]

I'm talking about a televised act of racism which is of course more shocking when expressed 'live' than in some documentary when the viewer is usually forewarned.

can't see why myself, racism is racism , no matter what medium it's transmitted through or amount of warning someone has had about it, if the medium or the forewarning that precedes it is seen to somehow reduce it's impact, then it's an odd stance on the act in the first place, kind of misses the core of the event, diminishes it even

not that i think there's been any racism on cbb though, bullying perhaps, but not worse than in previous years

 

[The Sick Anchor]

Just my experience of Indian girls (g/f of 6 years) is one of tolerance, understanding and very little spite etc...

just indian men then that propogate and reinforce the caste system?

suppose it probably is more that tbh, though

 

[academia]

Just my experience of Indian girls (g/f of 6 years) is one of tolerance, understanding and very little spite etc... (the opposite of the scary fuckers she is in there with)

Well I know Indian girls like that and Indian girls who are very much NOT like that.

 

[Dubversion]

I went out with an Indian girl for 3 years who was very much as Kanda describes - a lovely girl. I've also known some fucking horrors.

Just like any other social group then

 

[Kanda]

Yeah, well, my point was *nice* indian girls....

Which Shilpa does seem to be, compared to most I know/have met...

 

[Aravis]

I hate Cleo and I love Dirk. is this unusual?

No. Me too. And by the way it went tonight, we are in the majority

 

[tommers]

I went out with an Indian girl for 3 years who was very much as Kanda describes - a lovely girl. I've also known some fucking horrors.

Just like any other social group then

shilpa does seem very tolerant and forgiving. and dignified. and lovely etc etc etc

 

[Kanda]

just indian men then that propogate and reinforce the caste system?

Probably, took me years to get her used to me opening a door for her and expecting her to walk in front of me

 

[Orangesanlemons]

Well I missed all this, but very predictable evictions tonight - Shilpa has come back in to 1.33 and is the firm fave again now that the remote possibility of a negative vote evicting her has vanished. I wouldn't write off Jermaine and Dirk just yet, but it's going to take a fair old swing to dislodge Shilpa.

Anyway, what I wanted to talk about is this. Just watching the live feed now - Dirk, Danielle, Jack and Ian sat around the jacuzzi getting on, having fun and talking absolute bollocks. It's actually really charming, surreal and good-natured and kind of reminds me what this CBB has been missing from day 2 onwards. I get the feeling that without the Goody family catalyst this series could have been very interesting. Ah well...

 

[Ranu]

This will be the last CBB.

You heard it here first.

 

[danny la rouge]

This will be the last CBB.

You heard it here first.

And, hopefully, the last of Endemol.

 

[Strumpet]

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[DJ Squelch]

I'm talking about a televised act of racism which is of course more shocking when expressed 'live' than in some documentary when the viewer is usually forewarned.

Did people see that Keith Allen documentary about taking a group of kids with Tourettes on a doubledecker bus trip to France. It was on after the episode of CBB where Jack was thought to have called Shilpa a P*ki and started off the racism debate. The programme had quite a few cases when the kids shouted "ni**er" at black people and they even flashed up the word on the screen. Of course they had Tourettes but Allen said at one point something along the lines of "the problem with Tourettes is that it can be quite hard not to laugh".

Just thought it strange that its never been mentioned in relation to the CBB racism row ie C4 broadcating racism (?) or something that could seen as racist to get ratings.

 

[danny la rouge]

NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I've been a fan, as you know, but I think they have - to say the very least - run their course now.

We're left with I'm A Celebrity GMOOH.

 

[Strumpet]

I like that IACGMOOH

 

[danny la rouge]

I like that IACGMOOH

Me too. That's what
I'm saying: don't despair, IACGMOOH's better anyway.

(Davina versus Ant and Dec...contest?)

 

[bellator]

Danielle is crapping herself! She knows- she knows! eventually!

 

[danny la rouge]

Danielle is crapping herself!

Good.

BTW, did you know her working class accent is fake? Her Dad's a bank manager and her Mum's an engineer; she's as middle class as it comes.

 

[Strumpet]

(Davina versus Ant and Dec...contest?)

Heh.

 

[Kanda]

Good.

BTW, did you know her working class accent is fake? Her Dad's a bank manager and her Mum's an engineer; she's as middle class as it comes.

Scouse is a fake working class accent??

 

[danny la rouge]

Scouse is a fake working class accent??

No. Danielle is hamming up her accent.

 

[exosculate]

No. Danielle is hamming up her accent.

Surely she'd slip into a different accent sometimes if that was the case?