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Catfest -a festival celebrating cats and vegan street food is coming to Beckenham

Sounds fucking awful. Imagine the sort of people you'd meet there.. And the music.

Couldn't they hold it in Catford.
 
Saul Goodman said:
It's a fact. Feel free to do some legwork and look it up. Or continue to be a smartarse. Your choice.
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With pleasure. Fancy a bit of vegan gravy with that humble pie? :D

Vegetarian Dogs and Cats
Many vegetarians and vegans feed healthful, meatless diets to their companion animals. One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a 27-year-old border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables earned her consideration by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world’s oldest living dog in 2002. Many commercial meat-based dog foods can cause health problems in our animal companions. Pet food has also been recalled during mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), scares because of the risk that contaminated meat was processed into the food. One deputy commissioner states that cats especially “are susceptible to BSE.”

The nutritional needs of many dogs and cats can easily be met with a balanced vegan diet and certain supplements. James Peden, author of Vegetarian Cats & Dogs, developed Vegepet™ supplements to add to vegetarian and vegan recipes. They are nutritionally balanced and also come in special formulas for kittens, puppies, and lactating cats and dogs.

Some people wonder if it’s “unnatural” to omit meat from the diet of dogs and cats. But to feed them the meat that they would naturally eat, you would have to serve them whole mice or birds or allow them to hunt for themselves, an option that would be unfair to native species of birds and other small animals, since companion cats and dogs have been removed from the food chain and have advantages that free-roaming animals lack. Many vegan dogs and cats enjoy excellent health, and a vegan diet for your companion animal is ethically consistent with animal rights philosophy.

Vegetarian Cats and Dogs | PETA
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But that doesn't mean a cat can't live a healthy, long life on a plant-based diet, if it meets all the nutritional requirements.

Again, the science proves it.

A review of evidence published from four studies that have examined the nutritional adequacy of vegetarian diets for cats and dogs was studied by The Centre for Animal Welfare, University of Winchester. They reached the following conclusion:

It is entirely possible for companion animals to survive, and indeed thrive, on vegetarian diets. However, these must be nutritionally complete and reasonably balanced, and owners should regularly monitor urinary acidity and should correct for urinary alkalinisation through appropriate dietary additives, if it occurs.

Can Cats Be Vegan? Here's What the Science Says…
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Veggie Cat Food? Why Not All Cats Need Meat
Can Cats Be Vegan? Here's What the Science Says…

For the record: I think it's fucking ridiculous to feed a cat a vegan diet.
 
Even if cats can survive on a veggie diet, and even if it is not illegal, it is perverse and unacceptable to deny them the main/only type of food they have consumed in the species' entire existence. And it seems particularly idiotic when the the people doing that are vegans, given that most of them became vegan for animal welfare issues in the first place. So keeping bees for their honey is somehow wrong, but denying another animal the only (or at least the main and chief) type food their species has known and consumed for hundreds of thousands of years is okay? How does that work then?

If an individual doesn't like to promote the additional killing of animals for the pet food industry, then they should refrain from keeping a carnivore pet. Couldn't be more straightforward. Or if they choose to keep one, at least have the common decency to not deny them the only type of food their species has needed and known, and which their nature would guide them to seek if they were not kept by humans.

I thought a number of vegans do not even agree with keeping animals as pets in the first place. It must be a fun conversation when they meet a vegan who not only keeps then, but seek to modify and suppress one of the most essential natural instincts.
 
T & P said:
Even if cats can survive on a veggie diet, and even if it is not illegal, it is perverse and unacceptable to deny them the main/only type of food they have consumed in the species' entire existence. And it seems particularly idiotic when the the people doing that are vegans, given that most of them became vegan for animal welfare issues in the first place. So keeping bees for their honey is somehow wrong, but denying another animal the only (or at least the main and chief) type food their species has known and consumed for hundreds of thousands of years is okay? How does that work then?

If an individual doesn't like to promote the additional killing of animals for the pet food industry, then they should refrain from keeping a carnivore pet. Couldn't be more straightforward. Or if they choose to keep one, at least have the common decency to not deny them the only type of food their species has needed and known, and which their nature would guide them to seek if they were not kept by humans.

I thought a number of vegans do not even agree with keeping animals as pets in the first place. It must be a fun conversation when they meet a vegan who not only keeps then, but seek to modify and suppress one of the most essential natural instincts.
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It's a terrible idea. Appalling.

But can a cat live a healthy life if the owner takes the (immense) trouble to ensure they get a full diet? Science says yes (with reservations).
 
People forcing a vegan diet on their pets are selfish morons who aughtn't be allowed to keep them.
 
from fb

Catfest at Beckenham Place Park: a review

For me, a huge cat fan, this was a really good event, and I am sad that not everyone could go. There were some teething problems but the good far outweighed the bad.

Problems first:

1. Huge queues formed for Bob the Cat. This was held in a room with the book sellers, but anyone who wanted to see the books had to queue for Bob! I felt the poor booksellers lost out here.

2. There was a £5 charge to see the kittens rescued from Morocco and you needed cash. We had paid for the Fest so paying yet again was a surprise. On the good side, the cats seemed very happy, and the room was cool, and only a few people could go in at a time. Perhaps Catfest London could warn people of this extra charge on their advertising next time so people are not disappointed.

Now the positives, of which there were many:

1. I loved wandering around the marketplace: absolutely wonderful for cat lovers and lots of unique products on offer. (Perhaps next year the bookshop could be situated in another tent?)

2. There was a room in the manor where creative types could make their own cat ears! Such a good, hands on, idea.

3. The food stalls were many. They were mainly vegan/ vegetarian and there was a lot of choice.

4. Extra portaloos were available and they remained clean all day.

A big thank you to all the people organising Catfest, including the stallholders. Everyone was lovely even though they must have been so hot. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Let's hope that there is a Catfest in the park next year and the show will be even bigger so more people can attend.

I think there is a flower show on today. If anyone feels like writing a review after, that would be great.
 
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