Car ploughs into people at Christmas market in Magdeburg 20/12/24 - at least 2 dead and 60+ injured

[trashpony]

Christ this is awful

Magdeburg market attack: At least one dead and dozens injured after car driven into crowd at German Christmas market, reports say

I’ve seen a video and it’s pretty clear this was deliberate

 

[Humberto]

Horrible.

 

[Elpenor]

Reddit suggests deaths in double figures, wounded nearer three figures, the perpetrator (middle aged Saudi) caught

 

[Petcha]

And a bomb in the car

 

[Petcha]

A Saudi national has been arrested. This is brilliant timing for the election.

edit: video deleted. it's not nice.

 

[trashpony]

Sky is saying 11 people dead and 60-80 injured.

Horrific

 

[Petcha]

The perp's a doctor

 

[Bingoman]

Sky is saying 11 people dead and 60-80 injured.

Horrific

Officials saying just 2 people dead now on sky

 

[Bingoman]

Elon musk now say Olaf Scholz should resign

 

[tim]

Elon musk now say Olaf Scholz should resign

He called for Germans to vote for the Neonazi AfD this morning.

 

[breadandcircuse]

Elon musk now say Olaf Scholz should resign

Fucking Musk, keep your neb out.

 

[trashpony]

Can we keep the conversation about the incident, rather than Musk?

Have some respect for the victims

 

[Pickman's model]

Can we keep the conversation about the incident, rather than Musk?

Have some respect for the victims

Pls could you edit the date into the title?

 

[spring-peeper]

Pls could you edit the date into the title?

I know where you are coming from, but adding a date seems to imply that there has been or will be more of the same in the same location.

One of the dead was a toddler. That is one family that will not be having a merry Christmas. My heart aches for them.

 

[Pingety Pong]

According to the German papers, he was a fierce critic of Islam and an AFD supporter. So in some twisted way he - an ex-Muslim and refugee - wanted to stir up more hatred towards other refugees? A very strange story.

 

[Yossarian]

There was a car-sized gap in the security features meant to prevent this kind of attack, according to BBC correspondent Damien McGuinness

The market is "surrounded by concrete blocks". That's a common feature at Christmas markets in Germany since the attack in 2017 in which 12 people were killed, McGuinness adds. Since then, security has been high at markets, he says. But at "this very spot, there is a gap which is wide enough for pedestrians to go through but tragically wide enough for a car to go into the Christmas market."

Magdeburg Germany attack updates: Car hits crowds at Christmas market, leaving two dead and 68 injured

The suspected attacker, a 50-year-old Saudi doctor living in Germany, is believed to have acted alone.

www.bbc.com

 

[Pickman's model]

According to the German papers, he was a fierce critic of Islam and an AFD supporter. So in some twisted way he - an ex-Muslim and refugee - wanted to stir up more hatred towards other refugees? A very strange story.

Or it was a great lie

 

[Spymaster]

There was a car-sized gap in the security features meant to prevent this kind of attack, according to BBC correspondent Damien McGuinness

The market is "surrounded by concrete blocks". That's a common feature at Christmas markets in Germany since the attack in 2017 in which 12 people were killed, McGuinness adds. Since then, security has been high at markets, he says. But at "this very spot, there is a gap which is wide enough for pedestrians to go through but tragically wide enough for a car to go into the Christmas market."

Magdeburg Germany attack updates: Car hits crowds at Christmas market, leaving two dead and 68 injured

The suspected attacker, a 50-year-old Saudi doctor living in Germany, is believed to have acted alone.

www.bbc.com

I think most of these blocks are designed to prevent attacks by vans and lorries rather than cars, aren't they.

Cars, especially small ones, are very difficult to protect against without causing a lot of inconvenience.

 

[kenny g]

I think most of these blocks are designed to prevent attacks by vans and lorries rather than cars, aren't they.

Cars, especially small ones, are very difficult to protect against without causing a lot of inconvenience.

If you look at Stratford station or Westminster Bridge you can barely get a wheelchair through. Birmingham Christmas market being the same.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think most of these blocks are designed to prevent attacks by vans and lorries rather than cars, aren't they.

Cars, especially small ones, are very difficult to protect against without causing a lot of inconvenience.

I don't know about Germany but in the UK, after eg the attack on Glasgow airport and on London bridge, they're intended to block cars and larger vehicles

 

[kebabking]

Or it was a great lie

Possibly, but his SM history is pretty long - like a decade plus - of charting this odd arc he's been on. If it was a cover story/false flag it's a lot of effort to go to to drive a car into a Christmas market.

Very few of these people meet the idea of the cold-eyed, deep cover hard man - the overwhelming majority are just deeply fucked up.

 

[Lotte]

I can't even imagine what the family of the little kid who died must be going through right now. And so near to Christmas too.

 

[brogdale]

and the authorities bracing the population for more bad news from the 40 or so critically injured.

Fucking hell.

 

[teqniq]

Thread from Marc Owen Jones on the disinformation arising from this attack. Unsurprisingly Farage features:

Thread by @marcowenjones on Thread Reader App

@marcowenjones: 1/ 🧵This graph shows X posts by impressions in the first six hours after the Magdeburg attack. Specifically these are posts falsely attributing the attack to an Islamist terror attack or a Syrian, or...…

threadreaderapp.com

 

[nino_savatte]

A Saudi national has been arrested. This is brilliant timing for the election.

edit: video deleted. it's not nice.

Indeed. This plays into AfD's hands.

 

[elbows]

Indeed. This plays into AfD's hands.

Except it now transpires the attacker was himself islamophobic, with a history of ranting about Islam and leftists and spouting theories about Germany encouraging the islamism of Europe, and some media are saying he had voiced support for the likes of the AfD. It also appears that he had a history of talking shit about the group 'Atheist Refugee Relief', who in theory were supporting the same sort of refugees as him, and they filed a criminal complaint about him back in 2019 over the nature of his rhetoric and accusations against them.

Likely the full picture is more complicated than I have the time or info to describe right now, so apologies if the above characterisation turns out to be flawed in some way.

It also seems that the BBC did a video piece about him and his website some years ago:

The website helping ex-Muslims flee the Gulf

A Saudi activist has helped hundreds of ex-Muslims flee – especially women

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Spymaster]

It's difficult to decide whether to come into this full-bore and hate this bastard with a vengeance, or refuse to let his hateful act destroy my happiness of having the family together for the first time in many years.

I think I've decided to try to forget this until the new year but I'm not sure if that's right or not.

I can't imagine what the families of the affected are going through.

 

[zahir]

Statement from Ex-Muslims International

Official Statement on the Magdeburg Attack: Condemning Hatred and Defending Human Rights

At least four people, including a toddler, were killed, and 68 others were injured when Taleb Al Abdulmohsen deliberately drove into the Magdeburg Christmas Market on December 20. Abdulmohsen, a Saudi-born doctor and self-proclaimed ex-Muslim atheist activist, starkly illustrates that right-wing...

ex-muslims.international

Abdulmohsen, a Saudi-born doctor and self-proclaimed ex-Muslim atheist activist, starkly illustrates that right-wing extremism knows no racial, cultural, or religious boundaries. Despite being an immigrant, he was an outspoken supporter of the far-right AfD, harboring vehemently anti-Muslim and anti-migrant views. His attack was reportedly motivated by anger at Germany’s acceptance of Muslim refugees.

Abdulmohsen was known to our coalition as a stalker and cyberbully, which underscores his commitment to division and dehumanization. His actions serve as a reminder that hate cuts across backgrounds, fueled by an ideology of exclusion and contempt for others.

The Ex-Muslim Coalition condemns this heinous act of violence and offers heartfelt condolences to the families of the victims. We stand resolutely against hatred and division, affirming our unwavering commitment to human rights, including immigrant rights, and the shared humanity that unites us all.

 

[nino_savatte]

Except it now transpires the attacker was himself islamophobic, with a history of ranting about Islam and leftists and spouting theories about Germany encouraging the islamism of Europe, and some media are saying he had voiced support for the likes of the AfD. It also appears that he had a history of talking shit about the group 'Atheist Refugee Relief', who in theory were supporting the same sort of refugees as him, and they filed a criminal complaint about him back in 2019 over the nature of his rhetoric and accusations against them.

Likely the full picture is more complicated than I have the time or info to describe right now, so apologies if the above characterisation turns out to be flawed in some way.

It also seems that the BBC did a video piece about him and his website some years ago:

The website helping ex-Muslims flee the Gulf

A Saudi activist has helped hundreds of ex-Muslims flee – especially women

www.bbc.co.uk

Just out of interest, has there been a response from the AfD?

Meanwhile, on Shitter (formerly X), the usual suspects have been using this to bitch about multiculturalism, tolerance and so on.

 

[goldenecitrone]

One of my friends from Magdeburg (who lives not far from the Christmas Market) sent me this today. A Czech film.

Somewhere over the Chemtrails