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They're also well aware of my anxiety problems, a manager and the HR advisor had a meeting with me asking what they could do to help once they found out I wasn't well, and a counselor has been visiting me at college. I just don't think anyone knows the extent of my anxiety, they know I am on medication for it but perhaps assume it's all rosy because of that whereas I think I'm just not letting on how much I'm stressed. I was retching and almost crying on the way to work Friday. Dreading tomorrow.
 
S☼I said:
They're also well aware of my anxiety problems, a manager and the HR advisor had a meeting with me asking what they could do to help once they found out I wasn't well, and a counselor has been visiting me at college. I just don't think anyone knows the extent of my anxiety, they know I am on medication for it but perhaps assume it's all rosy because of that whereas I think I'm just not letting on how much I'm stressed. I was retching and almost crying on the way to work Friday. Dreading tomorrow.
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Have you access to an occupational health advisor through your work?
 
So they have been supportive up until now but are worried about performance/capability issues?

What's the culture like at your place? Know of any other colleagues who have had similar issues re health or parenting that have affected them? How were they dealt with?

From a employer perspective they will really be wanting to get as much info from you as possible to ascertain if despite the support they have offered you see yourself as able to continue in this role. They also seem to be asking what more you need/want from them?

Please don't let the 'we're here to help' language make you complacent though.

Who will you ask to accompany you?

What would you like to achieve in this meeting?

Again from an employer perspective they will also be fishing/managing the risk of you going off long term sick at some point.

If they did move to put you on capability, do you think you could handle that?
 
S☼I said:
I don't think so. What would they do?
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They would assess you and help determine what you can do, and what support you may need. Your medical condition may qualify as a disability under the equality act and your employer has a legal responsibility to ensure reasonable adjustments are made to support your working.
 
One reasonable adjustment could be that you should no longer be asked to do classroom cover, for example.
 
equationgirl said:
One reasonable adjustment could be that you should no longer be asked to do classroom cover, for example.
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Never was. But a definite plan for what should happen doesn't exist - Mrs SI if she's not in class has told the LSAs who work in her classes she absolutely dies not expect them to stay in her class if there's no cover.
 
S☼I said:
They're also well aware of my anxiety problems, a manager and the HR advisor had a meeting with me asking what they could do to help once they found out I wasn't well, and a counselor has been visiting me at college. I just don't think anyone knows the extent of my anxiety, they know I am on medication for it but perhaps assume it's all rosy because of that whereas I think I'm just not letting on how much I'm stressed. I was retching and almost crying on the way to work Friday. Dreading tomorrow.
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Take it one step at a time. Although it might not be easy, I have every confidence that you'll be fine - and if I'm right, then I hope you'll be able to lose some of the anxiety which you feel.

You've a ton of support here and, I'm sure, from colleagues at work. So if you are uncertain or anxious at any point in this process, breathe slowly and deeply as you meet the eyes of your manager and the HR goon and remember we're rooting for you.

Good luck!
 
S☼I said:
No. I've had more than my "allowed" days off sick, as I've had some brutal colds, and I've got an inhaler now which they gave me time off to go and get. I've had the "you've had too much time off" meeting where the inhaler was suggested; I'm due a meeting to review this specifically as it's three months since the first one where they said not to have any more days off ill, but I've had two off ill since then. I've also had a bad year for being off with the children; both me and Mrs SI work at the same place and have where poss taken it in turns but still I've now run out of paid leave days, I don't expect to be paid for the three days I was absent last week looking after poorly children.
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Your sickness policy: does it specify return to work meetings? Have you had them?
 
They paid a decent amount of lip-service to my current difficulties (if that's possible); it wasn't formal, there was no warning, but all the blame for both the lesson that went to shit and the public bollocking I got from my supervisor was laid firmly at my door.
Also found out people in my team view me as unapproachable, I throw things and swear in the office, etc etc. Always great to hear. So the anxiety that's causing me to behave in either withdrawn or hyper-alert ways is causing other people upset, so I should stop behaving like that so they can feel able to support me. Odd, I didn't know I had the option of switching it off. What a fool I've been!
 
S☼I said:
They paid a decent amount of lip-service to my current difficulties (if that's possible); it wasn't formal, there was no warning, but all the blame for both the lesson that went to shit and the public bollocking I got from my supervisor was laid firmly at my door.
Also found out people in my team view me as unapproachable, I throw things and swear in the office, etc etc. Always great to hear. So the anxiety that's causing me to behave in either withdrawn or hyper-alert ways is causing other people upset, so I should stop behaving like that so they can feel able to support me. Odd, I didn't know I had the option of switching it off. What a fool I've been!
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Not pleasant to hear. (((S I))) :(
 
S☼I said:
They have been helpful to some degree though, it must be said. Offering me the opportunity to have somewhere quiet to go if I need to, and saying a word will be had with the two managers so they realise both at once was heavy-handed
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That seems like they do understand a little of it. I'm glad it wasn't as harsh as you thought it might be .
 
S☼I said:
but all the blame for both the lesson that went to shit and the public bollocking I got from my supervisor was laid firmly at my door.
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:mad:

have they actually told you what you're supposed to do if there's no teacher?

is what they have told you to do in line with your job description?

i'd say this is definitely a union issue if there's other people on your grade who may face being in the same situation.

as for the public bollocking, you may want to see if they have a policy on bullying / harassment, and / or research the 'duty of mutual trust and confidence'
 
S☼I said:
They have been helpful to some degree though, it must be said. Offering me the opportunity to have somewhere quiet to go if I need to, and saying a word will be had with the two managers so they realise both at once was heavy-handed
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Is this how it has been left?

  • Agreement that there is a space available to you if you need it.
  • Confirmation that they will be speaking to the two managers that haven't handled your needs/the expectations of you well?
Anything else? Any plans to follow up with you?
 
Puddy_Tat said:
:mad:

have they actually told you what you're supposed to do if there's no teacher?

is what they have told you to do in line with your job description?
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Job description has nothing on unsupervised classes and is vague on how much supervision I am expected to provide. Works on the assumption all classes will have a teacher in them.

I was told yesterday that a high level class like that should be fine working by itself but given it obviously wasn't, what I should have done in those circumstances was leave to get the HoD. But by that point, given the week I'd had, I just thought "if he can't be arsed to arrange cover or walking the five yards from his office to check things every now and then, I can't be bothered to do anything".

Not constructive but that's why it happened.
 
Rutita1 said:
Is this how it has been left?

  • Agreement that there is a space available to you if you need it.
  • Confirmation that they will be speaking to the two managers that haven't handled your needs/the expectations of you well?
Anything else? Any plans to follow up with you?
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Basically. Oh, and a word to my supervisor asking if she has stuff she wants me to do, just ask me directly. I respond far better to that than guessing, and of course that's what she's paid for. Meeting again Thurs with line manager to see what we both come up with. I need to practice walking into the office quietly :rolleyes::D:oops:
 
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