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Brixton on C4 News today (30th may) at 6.30pm

David Simon seems to be over here quite a bit. He's been up at the Hay literary festival - he was on BBC Breakfast as well when The Wire S5 was released on DVD.

It would be super cool if he were to do his next project in London after Treme.
 
He finds Brixton very tame - I think cosy and suburban was his description. :D Nowhere near enough violence and social exclusion to get him interested.
 
I agree with Mrs Magpie, shudda gone to Moss Side for some proper gangsta action.

Or perhaps a trip to Liverpool's Croxteth, Norris Green and Clubmoor areas would have changed his mind.
 
I agree with Mrs Magpie, shudda gone to Moss Side for some proper gangsta action.

Or perhaps a trip to Liverpool's Croxteth, Norris Green and Clubmoor areas would have changed his mind.

I reckon Salford is far rougher than Moss Side. That's where 2 blokes walked into a pub and shot some people before the whole pub turned on them and killed them both. Then claimed they didn't know anything about it. Rough as.:eek:
 
as far as I know, there isn't the large scale gang rivalry in brixton that eg liverpool suffers from, am I right?
 
why are there ( perceived) more murders in sth ldn then? is it just we hear about it cos of the media?

I am not arguing with you...but most gang shit seems to happen in parts of sth/nth ldn.
 
It's because we have more journalists who aren't really prepared to travel. Isn't Nottingham the worst for gang violence per capita?
 
It's because we have more journalists who aren't really prepared to travel. Isn't Nottingham the worst for gang violence per capita?

I don't think so - God knows some parts of Nottingham still have people seriously trapped by drug problems, but gun-related crime seems to be dramatically down since the leaders of the main drug gangs were jailed.

And I say this despite last Sunday night's fatal shooting - the first for three years. I inadvertently walked straight through the crime scene on Monday morning, causing pandemonium amongst the rookie cops - who had sealed off all the road approaches but forgotten to close off the pedestrian twitchells used by Nottingham flaneurs such as myself . It was obvious (and heartening) that local police officers did not have to deal regularly with homicide crime scenes any longer.
 
A bit of perspective;

Murder rates:

Honduras (2008) 57.9 per 100,000
USA (2008) 5.8
England & Wales (2006) 1.37
Japan (2005) 0.64

Baltimore (pop. c. 637,000)

2006 = 276 homicides (43 per 100,000)
2007 = 282 homicides (44 per 100,000)
2008 = 234 homicides (37 per 100,000)

(Detroit and New Orleans also have very high rates)

Lambeth (pop. c. 272,000)

2006 = 14 homicides (5 per 100,000)
2007 = 23 homicides (8 per 100,000)
2008 = 15 ??? homicides (5 per 100,000)

The study that ranked Nottingham and St Helens as having the highest UK murder rates (5.21 and 4.87 per 100,000) didn't calculate rates London boroughs separately, so the lower crime outer London boroughs 'covered up' for the higher crime inner London ones.

If Lambeth was as bad as Baltimore it would have about 120 murders per year or 1 every 3 days.
 
That's odds of 2000 to 1 that you'll get murdered in Baltimore over the course of a year. Mind you, I'm sure those levels are centred on certain areas which probably decreases the odds tenfold 200 to 1 or less. :eek:
 
And it depends on your sex and age too. Most murder victims seem to be young men.

And you're much more likely to be murdered on the way home from a nightclub than on the way home from Evensong.
 
Utter wank, imo. Presumably another media studies spotty producer just oozing with new ideas.

The man has it pretty sorted, he needs interviewers with depth and insight.
 
The report was kinda rubbish tbh.

Harldy said a thing about Brixton and seemed to fawn all over David Simon as the guy beind the Wire and how cool he was for spending all that time doing his street research on it all. A slight remark from Simon that he doesn't think the drugs war will ever be won and how things here don't seem to be anything on the scale of Baltimore. And that was it.

It would have been better done if they went back a bit and did a contrast story between Major Colvin and his 'Hamsterdam' zone in the Wire and the pilot sceme in Brixton in 2001 not to arrest or charge people who were found to be in possession of cannabis, overseen by the then Commander Brian Paddick (huge similarities in the subject matter and the dirty politics higher up the chain in both cases). They could have then brought it up to date and taken a view eight years on as to whether 'war on drugs' is a universally flawed concept or not.

That's what I would've done anyway but hey, I'm no journo.
 
I was very underwhelmed. It was more like an arts story on how wonderful David Simon is. A rather pointless bit of filler.
 
They have put the full 40 minute interview in the Hero pub garden (only semi/un-edited) online here: http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/david+simon+apossay+no+to+drugsapos/3184057

He's chatting to Channel 4's Home affairs correspondent Simon Israel. I'm watching it now - in depth chat about 'the war on drugs', plus his books and tv shows, journalism, obama, politics, brixton versus baltimore etc.

(ps Nick actually gets a name-check! :D c. @ 32 minutes)
(pps It is really interesting to see how the raw footage is transformed into a 5 minute news item, which is also there as well.)
 
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