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editor said:
Another great Brixton pub and live venue lost:

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Brixton’s Hand In Hand pub is now closed and shuttered – photos
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well that sucks
 
alex_ said:
Presumably we should everything possible to encourage them ?
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And what's your brilliant suggestion for encouraging successful bosses and entrepreneurs to pay their staff a fair wage rather then the bare minimum?
I'm all ears.
 
editor said:
And what's your brilliant suggestion for encouraging successful bosses and entrepreneurs to pay their staff a fair wage rather then the bare minimum?
I'm all ears.
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If I had the power, I’d lower their business rates in return for paying a fair wage. You back them, we back you


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Not a Vet said:
If I had the power, I’d lower their business rates in return for paying a fair wage. You back them, we back you
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There's no chance of that happening any time soon though, is there?
Personally, I'm all for workers getting a fair share of the profits when the company is minting it. And don't forget, the London Living Wage is the minimum workers are expected to be able to live off and cover their basic needs.
 
Gramsci said:
I would have gone but decided the protest against Boris at Whitehall was more important. I did bump into a few people I knew at Whitehall so yes its unlucky for XR that this was at same time.

Interestingly people seem to have adopted some of XR tactics. Sit down protest in Trafalgar Square stopped all traffic and left the police not quite knowing what to do.

I've a lot of sympathy for XR. As my photos show they are up for it. Respect.

Everything you say I agree with. I have love hate relationship with Hippies as that's my background.

I do think XR media profile / PR has been very good. They have got the climate change issue back on the front pages and in people's minds when everything in this country has been about Brexit.

And I do have a lot of time for people who are willing to be arrested for what is positive thing.

Last night I was in the pub ending up defending them. The accusations being they are to white and middle class. Don't understand the police ( which I do agree with).

The SWP have taken decision to get their members to join and support XR.Which is why the SWP front organisation was there today. I don't have a particular problem with that if it brings class issues into it. Plus the left should take on board climate change.

What I don't quite get is the relationship between XR and the Green Party. Was the Green Party at the event? They are strong in Lambeth. What I've heard is that there are dark Greens and light Greens in the Green Party.
Extinction Rebellion protests: Day 3 – arrests on Waterloo Bridge, Weds 17th April 2019
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We spotted you! Striding past the cenotaph:)
 
editor said:
And what's your brilliant suggestion for encouraging successful bosses and entrepreneurs to pay their staff a fair wage rather then the bare minimum?
I'm all ears.
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Plymouth Council are running a new scheme to give inclusive employers rates cuts and other perks. That’s the way to do it, Lambeth!
 
blameless77 said:
Plymouth Council are running a new scheme to give inclusive employers rates cuts and other perks. That’s the way to do it, Lambeth!
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Trouble is, Lambeth worship at the shrine of Blairite entrepreneurs who feel they should be handsomely rewarded for their 'risk' (see: wages for Pop Brixton bosses).
 
Not a Vet said:
If I had the power, I’d lower their business rates in return for paying a fair wage. You back them, we back you


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Indirectly some employers get state backing now. I know a few people who do low paid jobs and still need to claim benefits to top up the low pay they get. And its not an easy process to do this.
 
editor said:
Worth remembering when people keep insisting that the new, low paying businesses in Brixton are 'giving' us jobs.

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Kind of think people have missed the point of her tweet.

She wrote a book on this Nickel and Dimed.

To be frank this is basic if one reads Das Capital. Also personal experience backs it up.

We live in a Capitalist system. In that one's Labour is not ones own. To live one has to sell ones capacity to work to produce a product that is sold on the market by the business owner.

( in Marxist terms ones Labour is a special kind of commodity. Our capacity to freely work is alienated from ourselves to be sold on the market. Its at heart one of the most dehumanising aspects of Capitalism.)

So what she is saying is good corrective to the Capitalist ideology that somehow busines owners are doing us all a favour by employing people.

This isn't how the system works.

This isn't about being negative or wanting to overthrow Capitalism immediately. Its how the system we all live under works.
 
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Gramsci said:
FFS.

The lawyer tweet has put Okay with " . It obviously not ok to pepper spray someone sitting down is how I read the tweet.
BTW what do you think? Did the police act correctly in your opinion?
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I don't know. I was interested in the legal opinion and didn't see one. It looked like the headline to an article so assumed there was more to it.
 
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