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Brixton news, rumours and general chat - September 2012
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gaijingirl
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Ugly compared to what? Have you seen the Tulse Hill Estate, not from the road, but from the front doors of the tenants, which face carparks and bins? Or do you prefer the redbrick barrack vibe?
That was exactly the view from my flat - the skip bin was outside our front door in fact, which made for noisy bin mornings. But I took the view that we didn't live inside looking out at the bins. The view from the other side was of the park, which made for noisy wildlife instead (but beautiful of course!).
Obviously there are ugly and beautiful examples of architecture, but I'd definitely rather live in ugly on the outside but well built than pretty and caving in.in any case, I think we are all on the same page about this...
Crispy
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Clever, but it's since turned out that there've been problems with too much heat in summer, etc.I really like the BedZed houses. Very clever interleaving of housing types, excellent energy efficiency and attractive too
Manter
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The Netherlands seem to do interesting stuff- was looking for the one I've been past a few times near Haarlem with coloured glass and found this. Apparently the wobbly balconies mean they all get sun. Though I have never seen sun in the Netherlands and suspect that sky was photoshopped.
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True, although it's not a fault of the approach, but that it was an experiment. Lessons learned have led to: http://www.ruralzed.com/
So basically, ruralzed is to bedzed as Cressingham Gardens is to the Tulse Hill Estate - both were built in response to earlier problems.
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Which one?
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Manter
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I wasn't sure everyone was disagreeing with me because I was new. I thought we were having an interesting conversation about aesthetics and social architecture, that was distracting me nicely from my very overdue report...and as part of that some people hold different views from me. Ah well, naive again I guess....
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No I think you have it right. Onket has a well-sharpened axe (not without reason) when it comes to the rough ride newbies sometimes get here
Not from me. I don't care how long anyone's been here; if I agree with what you say, I'll agree and the same goes if I disagree with it. And BTW if you jump in by criticising the appearance of an estate which locals live on, you can hardly expect that bit of your posts to be taken lying down by people who live there.
Minnie_the_Minx
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They're downright ugly!
They have a cold look (but I suppose that will cool the residents of Spain)
Orang Utan
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Brockwell Gate is a horrible place to live.
I went to an after party there once.
Grimwave
Cressingham Gardens isn't ugly IMO. It's functional, certainly, but it's well planned and designed with the surrounding gardens so it doesn't stick out like an eyesore
I went to an after party there once.
Grimwave
Cressingham Gardens isn't ugly IMO. It's functional, certainly, but it's well planned and designed with the surrounding gardens so it doesn't stick out like an eyesore
Rushy
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I quite like the architecture and layout of parts of Cressingham gardens. As with a lot of these post 1950 developments - much of their appeal has been wrecked by changes to the windows. Was considering it as a place for my old Mum if she comes back to the UK. But the layout, as well as being a reason why I like it, is also a reason why I think it is a poor use of urban space.
gaijingirl
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I'll be honest and say that there are bits of Cressingham I like and bits I find annoying - the uppy downy walkway stairs which I used to find incomprehensible when doing deliveries there. But we very nearly moved there - moving up from the Tulse Hill estate - and apart from the recent news revelations I often regret not doing so.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
There's not enough Brutalist or Modernist architecture in Brixton. Time for a revival I say!
Manter
Lunch Mob
I wasn't criticising YOU, just saying I don't like how a particular estate looks. If you told me my last house was ugly, I would shrug and agree. If you said my current one had a very silly-coloured front door (and matching drainpipes- why oh why?) I'd shrug and agree with that too... But I never felt you were attacking me, just disagreeing with my pov. Which is fine by me and rather the point of discussion.... How dull if everyone just posted excited agreement with one another
Manter
Lunch Mob
Good point- never thought about it like that before but you are quite right
Have you actually walked through the estate instead of just passing the edge of it? Have you seen any of the floorplans? Have you seen how the communal open spaces in it are used at the weekends or outside of working hours? If you haven't done any of these, I don't see how you can judge what it's like to live here.
Orang Utan
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Manter does not appear to be commenting on what it's like to live there. (S)he just didn't find it an attractive estate. It's a modern council estate - loads of people find them ugly. It's a perfectly valid opinion.
Manter
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Thx, yes, my point exactly. I have no idea what it is like to live there- And as I have said many times,I am pretty shocked Lambeth plan to chuck people out of their homes.
Manter
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I walk through it regularly- it is the route between my house and the park, and I have seen a maisonette there as it was on the market (but bought my damp concrete flat instead- epic fail) But I have never lived there and I have no idea what it's like to live there....
Then I feel sorry for you; of all the local council estates, this is one of the quietest, safest, and pleasantest to live on, particularly in hot weather.
Minnie_the_Minx
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When I can use both hands without either wincing or swearing, I will. That's likely to be another week yet.You should document it in photos 'cos there's barely anything on google images
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