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Brixton news, rumours and general chat - October 2012

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Only tried it once, got two dishes and was not impressed as all. Reminded me of Paya in its blandness. Shame, as I was really looking forward to something different

If you're talking about the place I mean, it clearly isn't going to provide anything different. As I said, a good variety of standard Anglo-Chinese food in an 'all you can eat' format.
 
Onket said:
4 plates and a couple of extra bits.

The plates are smaller than normal sized ones, tbf.

My usual buffet system is to eat lots of small plates. Better to keep refilling a small plate from the hot plate than pile up one big plate.
 
If you're talking about the place I mean, it clearly isn't going to provide anything different. As I said, a good variety of standard Anglo-Chinese food in an 'all you can eat' format.

Yeah, old Dawn of the Raj. Pretty sure there was some Vietnamese or Thai influenced dishes on the menu. Maybe they've done away with them
 
There was a reason why Granville Arcade was left struggling with no investment for so long, and that was very much to do with the owners.

They had plans to completely redevelop the site, demolish the current buildings and replace them with a 10 story privately owned residential tower block and private park.

Not sure this is entirely correct. The current owners only commenced plans for redevelopment after they purchased the markets in 2007. But it was run down for at least a decade before then - Granville more so - and I was never aware of any substantial redevelopment plans by the prior owners. There is certainly nothing in the planning database under either Market Row or Granville's postcodes. Whether people like the result or not, after having their redevelopment plans scuppered by the listing, the current owners quickly revived the indoor market rather than let it founder.
 
Not sure this is entirely correct. The current owners only commenced plans for redevelopment after they purchased the markets in 2007. But it was run down for at least a decade before then - Granville more so - and I was never aware of any substantial redevelopment plans by the prior owners. There is certainly nothing in the planning database under either Market Row or Granville's postcodes. Whether people like the result or not, after having their redevelopment plans scuppered by the listing, the current owners quickly revived the indoor market rather than let it founder.

I think you're probably right. Whatever the rights and wrongs of what's been done with it now, what was never going to happen was that it would fill back up with the more traditional stalls. The demand isnt there.
 
I'm not entirely sure that's true to be fair. Other caribbean/asian markets have thrived at times when Brixton was on the decline, Tooting's notably sprucing up whilst Brixton's indoor markets felt increasingly unloved and tatty. Not that the place wouldn't have struggled compared to its past - a hefty change in local population and associated migration outwards of many of the original immigrant families would have seen to that- but I suspect decline could have been far less notable with a little more care and maintenance. Insecurity over rents and the future of the place hardly encouraged existing traders to raise their game, nor encouraged enterprising others. I'm not suggesting it would have stayed frozen in aspic for one moment, but things could have developed along different lines.

Still, it's a moot point now. The place is holding on to some kind of balance at the moment, but I'm still a little fearful. It is harder to consistently pick up some more of the specialised produced now, which lessens its appeal as destination a food market. Let's see how it pans out, but given what's happened to many other London markets as they've gone upmarket/been trendified you'll excuse me a little caution.

On the plus side, there's some signs of life springing back up in the outdoor markets, with a couple of new stalls appearing selling (decent) Caribbean produce.
 
. Let's see how it pans out, but given what's happened to many other London markets as they've gone upmarket/been trendified you'll excuse me a little caution.

I put this link on the Brixton square thread. But its relevant here. Basically the article says that housing near market puts up there price.

John Ennis, director of estate agent Foxtons, says: “Markets are really boosting property values. Years ago, there were only a few — Portobello, Covent Garden and Camden Lock — plus some rougher working-class street markets but London is now more like Paris, where neighbourhoods have a distinct character and identity.”

Trendifying a market is way of making people feel they live somewhere "authentic". What it remind me of is Marie Antoniettes rustic "farm"

Which ended up being one the things that people resented about her.
 
Manter said:
I forgot how short the Thameslink train journey was this evening and therefore was daydreaming when it stopped in Herne Hill. Ended up in fucking Bromley:facepalm:

Did you go to Bromley market?
 
Has anyone seen anyone buy the Sun or the Times from the lonely looking chap outside Brixton tube before? I have yet to see a single purchase.
 
my husband does it about once a month (the ending up in Bromley on the Thameslink). I used to have an alcoholic boyfriend who lived in Orpington. He would regularly wake up in Dover in the middle of the night after catching the vomit comet home from Charing Cross.
 
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