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But what if they are doing good work anyway? They claim to be trying to do something constructive about youth disaffection and crime in the area.
If they are in the process of getting charity accreditation, the charity commission investigation will exonerate them. If they are pretending to be a charity when they aren't, there is something dodgy going on- usually tax or finance related. I can't think of any benign reason to pretend to be a charity...
E2a just seen cesare's post- using company number (especially of dormant company) as charity number looks even dodgier to me
 
If they are in the process of getting charity accreditation, the charity commission investigation will exonerate them. If they are pretending to be a charity when they aren't, there is something dodgy going on- usually tax or finance related. I can't think of any benign reason to pretend to be a charity...
E2a just seen cesare's post- using company number (especially of dormant company) as charity number looks even dodgier to me

Let's chase them out of town with sticks :mad:
 
THE LADIES OF SUBSTANCE LTD.

Here's a piece about them on Brixton Blog. They were founded by the owner of Wa-Zo-Bia Tropical Foods in Reliance Arcade and are described as "holding meetings for local African women to share experiences and discuss how they can stop their children getting involved with gang crime."

just seen cesare's post- using company number (especially of dormant company) as charity number looks even dodgier to me
Does it definitely say charity number, not company number?
 
Here's a piece about them on Brixton Blog. They were founded by the owner of Wa-Zo-Bia Tropical Foods in Reliance Arcade and are described as "holding meetings for local African women to share experiences and discuss how they can stop their children getting involved with gang crime."


Does it definitely say charity number, not company number?
Maybe they need an accountant to offer to bring their returns up to date etc, and get the charity registration thing sorted.
 
Name & Registered Office:
THE LADIES OF SUBSTANCE LTD.
25 SAXBY ROAD
LAMBETH
LONDON
SW2 4JS
Company No. 07774127

Courtesy of Companies House. Showing as dormant.

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails

That's them! I lost the leaflet they gave me, only have the scrap of paper.

They seemed like good people when I went in the shop.


If they are in the process of getting charity accreditation, the charity commission investigation will exonerate them. If they are pretending to be a charity when they aren't, there is something dodgy going on- usually tax or finance related. I can't think of any benign reason to pretend to be a charity...
E2a just seen cesare's post- using company number (especially of dormant company) as charity number looks even dodgier to me


The number on this handwritten photocopy says that it's a Registered Charity.

I agree that it's pretty fucking dodgy to pretend to be a charity.

Here's a piece about them on Brixton Blog. They were founded by the owner of Wa-Zo-Bia Tropical Foods in Reliance Arcade and are described as "holding meetings for local African women to share experiences and discuss how they can stop their children getting involved with gang crime."


Does it definitely say charity number, not company number?


Says Registered Charity No: 7774127

Maybe they need an accountant to offer to bring their returns up to date etc, and get the charity registration thing sorted.


Yeah. Maybe next time I'm up there I'll say something to them.
 
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If its annual gross income is less than £5K it doesn't have to register with the Commission, afaik
 
If its annual gross income is less than £5K it doesn't have to register with the Commission, afaik
True: but in that case they have no charity number and can't claim to be a registered charity. To give them the benefit of the doubt, it may be ignorance/incompetence rather than anything dodgy, but there are tax advantages to being a charity (and charity trustee) so it's worth checking what they are up to
 
True: but in that case they have no charity number and can't claim to be a registered charity. To give them the benefit of the doubt, it may be ignorance/incompetence rather than anything dodgy, but there are tax advantages to being a charity (and charity trustee) so it's worth checking what they are up to
Yes. For whatever reason it's misleading at the moment, so they need to clear it up. They can still get tax advantages even if unregistered.
 
I'll raise it with them when I'm next up there.

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Anyone know what was going on with the paddy wagons, the shouting people and PC plod this morning at 8.15 opposite the tube station?
 
If its annual gross income is less than £5K it doesn't have to register with the Commission, afaik
I think you DO need to register to be a "registered charity"
If your turnover is less than £10,000 p.a. you don't need to submit formal audited accounts - but you do need to supply an income and expenditure statement to charity commission. Different rules for churches.
AFAIK
 
I think you DO need to register to be a "registered charity"
If your turnover is less than £10,000 p.a. you don't need to submit formal audited accounts - but you do need to supply an income and expenditure statement to charity commission. Different rules for churches.
AFAIK
Well you do have to register to be a "registered charity" but if it's too small to register (under £5k gross income pa) it can still register with HMRC for the tax breaks, but can't call itself a "registered charity" but instead a "charity registered with HMRC".

http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/start-up-a-charity/registering-your-charity/when-to-register/
 
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