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If it is 18% of "turn over" and live in it sounds pretty good

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"To pay yourself and your staff"
not so good...
 
ricbake said:
If it is 18% of "turn over" and live in it sounds pretty good

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"To pay yourself and your staff"
not so good...
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Would this mean that the Pubco covers all other costs? So, if you take 3k a week in the till, thats £540 cash to play with to pay staff, some for yourself and nothing else?
 
jimbarkanoodle said:
In an online advert for a live in manager for 'The Hill' in Forest Hill, they promise the successful applicant 18% of weekly turnover to pay themselves and their staff. I'm no expert in these matters, is that a decent deal? Doesnt sound great to me?

Pub Operator - The Hill - Craft Union Pub Company
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it sounds a bit shit as the largest outgoing of every organisation i've worked for has been pay.
 
Here's where you can check how polluted your street is

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Central Brixton’s air quality continues to exceed legal limit – check your own area with this useful website
 
I've had a few leaflets and emails about the Poeples Vote March on Saturday.

From Lambeth for Europe

Lambeth forEEurope

More on where Lambeth for Europe will be on the start of march

Lambeth for Europe at the People's Vote march

( my experience of marches is that they never start off on time. So guess will be more like half twelve to one before goes off from Park lane. )

and from Trot acquaintance of mine in Workers Liberty - they are Remain. There is a Left Bloc on the march under Another Europe is possible group.


March with us: demand a public vote on Brexit

From my Trot friends email:


We won't be marching in support of the EU - for us, staying in the EU is
only the first step to organising a new international resistance
bringing together the labour, trade union and social movements of Europe.
Join us at the Left Bloc


"As Britain’s political crisis deepens and a new global recession looms,
it has never been clearer that we are living in an era of heightened
nationalism, increased xenophobia, and renewed inter-state rivalry
threatening war and destruction.

Europe may seem more divided than ever. But the burning questions of our
movement – austerity, climate breakdown, the refugee crisis - demand
international solutions.

To confront these challenges, we need a new international movement
capable of presenting a genuine working-class alternative to both the
failing neoliberal world order and the racist right-populism
masquerading as a solution."

I agree with this.
 
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I've absolutely no idea what this is about but it's filmed n Stockwell Skatepark and the Marquis of Lorne and there's some familiar faces in there

This is what happens when a bunch of South London reprobates hang out with cameras. Blokes is skateboarding, comic-book violence and '80s British nonsense. Created by Ed Hubert and Jack Lammas and starring charismatic nutters Jake Snelling and Craig Questions, with a supporting cast of everyone that hangs out at Stockwell skatepark. –Jacob Harris
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"Blokes" The Movie
 
Gramsci said:
I've had a few leaflets and emails about the Poeples Vote March on Saturday.

From Lambeth for Europe

Lambeth forEEurope

More on where Lambeth for Europe will be on the start of march

Lambeth for Europe at the People's Vote march

( my experience of marches is that they never start off on time. So guess will be more like half twelve to one before goes off from Park lane. )

and from Trot acquaintance of mine in Workers Liberty - they are Remain. There is a Left Bloc on the march under Another Europe is possible group.


March with us: demand a public vote on Brexit

From my Trot friends email:


We won't be marching in support of the EU - for us, staying in the EU is
only the first step to organising a new international resistance
bringing together the labour, trade union and social movements of Europe.
Join us at the Left Bloc


"As Britain’s political crisis deepens and a new global recession looms,
it has never been clearer that we are living in an era of heightened
nationalism, increased xenophobia, and renewed inter-state rivalry
threatening war and destruction.

Europe may seem more divided than ever. But the burning questions of our
movement – austerity, climate breakdown, the refugee crisis - demand
international solutions.

To confront these challenges, we need a new international movement
capable of presenting a genuine working-class alternative to both the
failing neoliberal world order and the racist right-populism
masquerading as a solution."

I agree with this.
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I was talking to someone last night at their door and a woman walked up and gave us a leaflet for today's march
 
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Looks like there’s been an incident on Elm Park - police cordon between craster and Leander roads.
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This appears to be a reference to an unnamed 31-year-old man who was shot in the leg shortly before 10.25 p.m. on Wednesday 16 October 2019, as a result of which he suffered injuries which are not life-threatening.
 
Saw a group of boys - late teens - walking up from the estate throwing loud fireworks about on Leander Rd up to Elm Park
 
BusLanes said:
Saw a group of boys - late teens - walking up from the estate throwing loud fireworks about on Leander Rd up to Elm Park
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Oh right... I was on the bus the other day and a woman was talking about some young people being arrested by the police for doing this. She said, "I always tell my kids, say you're underage and for them to ring your parents". I guess it's a thing every Nov.
 
Angellic said:
Strategy and consultation on homelessness in Lambeth

Love Lambeth
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I see this at bottom of the article :

Concerned about someone you’ve seen sleeping rough?
If you are concerned about someone you have seen sleeping rough, please use StreetLink where a team of professional outreach workers will connect them with support. In an emergency, or if the person you are concerned about is under 18, always call the police.
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I would not do this.

Best thing to do it concerned is to give the person money or food. Alerting the authorities is liable to attract Police attention.

The so called "professional" outreach workers aren't to be trusted.

If the homeless person is deemed to be non cooperative they are likely to have the police around asking about immigration status etc.

What normally happens is the homeless person moves somewhere else if the "professionals" turn up.
 
Gramsci said:
I see this at bottom of the article :



I would not do this.

Best thing to do it concerned is to give the person money or food. Alerting the authorities is liable to attract Police attention.

The so called "professional" outreach workers aren't to be trusted.

If the homeless person is deemed to be non cooperative they are likely to have the police around asking about immigration status etc.

What normally happens is the homeless person moves somewhere else if the "professionals" turn up.
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That is totally the wrong advice. The only route for a rough sleeper into the rough sleeper hostels is via Streetlink. Their workers assess the rough sleeper and can access the hostels if the personWANTS to move off the streets. Rough sleepers have a life expectancy of over 30 years less than us so it is in their interests to be encouraged to begin the journey into permanent accommodation to save their lives. They will not and can not force a person into a hostel it is always their choice. Most rough sleepers are already networked in with services anyway even if they don’t live in a hostel. Day centres, mental health services, drugs support etc can all be offered to the rough sleeper via streetlink even if the person doesn’t want to leave the streets.
if you see a rough sleeper I would advise talking to the person and ask them how they are and are they getting support from street based services already or would they like you to contact them on their behalf. The night services are really stretched as just 1 or at most 2 teams have to cover a very large area, and often the person will appreciate you chasing them Up or re-referring them to increase their chances of being met by outreach quickly
On a cold winters night, food and a fiver might buy temporary relief from misery, but the important aim must always be to encourage as many as possible to move off the streets and into the relative safety of a hostel, and the only way to do this is via street based services
 
Gramsci said:
Alerting the authorities is liable to attract Police attention.
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On a slight detour - but regarding attention of the Police

I was waiting for three hours yesterday from noon till 3 pm in Brixton nick supporting friend who had to make a report about a robbery.

This quite light complexioned black guy wrapped in what seemed to be a French flag took up position at the top of the steps directly outside the Police station entrance and started whooping and hollering - much of it calling on his Mummy and Daddy, complaining about being arrested etc.

I was quite surprised that nobody paid him much mind. Maybe he does it all the time. He even came into the entrance lobby raving - one black guy told him he would be sectioned under the mental health act, which he didn't like, so having been putting on this performance for half an hour or more he departed.

But absolutely no police response.

After this on the other hand a rough-looking woman kept coming in and picking arguments with the counter staff, then going out and arguing with people on the street. The police did engage with her.

Is it a question of who - in the view of the police - is likely to get into a fight? Or was the flag-waving guy known to be in the care of some mental health hostel - and so not "vulnerable" or worth arresting? I would be intrigued to know.
 
Southlondon said:
That is totally the wrong advice. The only route for a rough sleeper into the rough sleeper hostels is via Streetlink. Their workers assess the rough sleeper and can access the hostels if the personWANTS to move off the streets. Rough sleepers have a life expectancy of over 30 years less than us so it is in their interests to be encouraged to begin the journey into permanent accommodation to save their lives. They will not and can not force a person into a hostel it is always their choice. Most rough sleepers are already networked in with services anyway even if they don’t live in a hostel. Day centres, mental health services, drugs support etc can all be offered to the rough sleeper via streetlink even if the person doesn’t want to leave the streets.
if you see a rough sleeper I would advise talking to the person and ask them how they are and are they getting support from street based services already or would they like you to contact them on their behalf. The night services are really stretched as just 1 or at most 2 teams have to cover a very large area, and often the person will appreciate you chasing them Up or re-referring them to increase their chances of being met by outreach quickly
On a cold winters night, food and a fiver might buy temporary relief from misery, but the important aim must always be to encourage as many as possible to move off the streets and into the relative safety of a hostel, and the only way to do this is via street based services
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I've talked to rough sleepers and seen how they are dealt with in Brixton and in West End. West End has a lot of rough sleepers.

In Brixton what I've seen is the outreach team being called , not because of concern for well-being of rough sleepers , because they are considered a nuisance.

Outreach team are called. Rough sleeper does not want to engage with the team. So matter is referred to police by Council anti social behaviour officers. Then the rough sleepers take their tents and sleeping bags and disappear. In the case I know the rough sleeper was foreign and they guess he had visa problems or was East European. East Europeans can be deported , even though we are still in EU, if they can't prove they can live independently.

Like with Windrush the help they might be offered is to voluntarily accept paid for flight/ coach to leave this country. Voluntarily of course.

There is genuine help like church groups giving free food. This is different from the States "help" which is not that voluntary. The States help is conditional. The religious groups help is not.

I'm an atheist but know have a lot of time for the religious groups giving out free food. They periodically get accused of increasing the problem rough sleeping in West End.

Those who support Brexit were under illusion that EU citizens from other countries had an easy life here. Not so. It will only get worse after Brexit. Many East Europeans live here in precarious jobs and fall through the cracks if they lose a job.

Also some people I see have immigration issues so really don't want to be in the system. Churches and other religious groups set up free food for them in areas in West End. I see this with a lot of people queuing up for food.

Other thing is some people don't like hostels. They would rather be on streets than in a hostel. Feel safer with others on a particular spot than be in hostel.

Some homeless band together and occupy a spot.

What I see happen is that they are often moved on. One told me , in west end, an outreach team came to see him . He refused help. Next police came and told him if he didn't cooperate and accept "help" he would be moved on or arrested.

He moved on. He told me that what happens is you find a spot and get moved on .
 
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