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Brixton news, rumour and general chat - Sept 2015
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discobastard
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Whatever the reason is, and whoever it was, wind or not, wilfully vandalising a sign advertising a community event does seem rather strange thing to do and seems at odds with U75 values.
And I'm very happy to be put on ignore for pointing that out. Tells a fairly clear story.
ETA: estate agents plastering their signs aggressively all over the street pisses me off too and I've complained about it before. This *is* a little different though.
And I'm very happy to be put on ignore for pointing that out. Tells a fairly clear story.
ETA: estate agents plastering their signs aggressively all over the street pisses me off too and I've complained about it before. This *is* a little different though.
Maharani
Just like Heaven
Why is it different?
discobastard
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Because it was advertising a community event.
Maharani
Just like Heaven
As ed pointed out you can barely see the text for the event which is always the case (as stated ^ where I mentioned the school fete). These agents don't do anything that unless they get something out of it.
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hiraethified
A huge amount of estate agent signs are illegally put up every year. Like this one. We've had them put up all over our estate and I'm delighted to see them being taken down by whatever means.
And whether they have a vague reference to a 'community event' in small letters under the estate agent's name is irrelevant. They're still adverts and they're still illegal and ugly - and nailing them on to a council notice on a piece of parkland is just taking the piss even more.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Do we know if it was put up illegally?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Why are you replying to me?
discobastard
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Yes but that's no surprise. They're part sponsors so will be paying something towards running the event. Just because that's 'the way things are' doesn't mean the sign should be torn down.
And how arrogant of one individual (whoever that was) to tear down such a sign. Why should they decide whether people do or don't see a sign advertising an event that they and their families might enjoy? That's just acting as judge and jury on behalf of a bunch of people you've never met.
And looking at the photo, the text looks perfectly legible and the logo in no way obscures the announcement about the event.
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hiraethified
Their piece of wood was hastily stuck on to the sign using two plastic tie grips. It wasn't secured to the ground so was hardly secure. Have you seen many other council notices with estate agent's adverts stuck on then?
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
So no then
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hiraethified
editor
hiraethified
If you think it's possible, why don't you write to the council and ask them if they've struck up an unannounced deal to let estate agents insecurely bolt on their own adverts to their signs on public green spaces?
discobastard
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...advertising events that they are co-sponsoring with the council.
deadringer
meat pie sausage roll
To be fair to Ed, he did try to contact Haart regarding said sign, to no reply.
As someone said upthread, it would have been better for the wind to have blown a piece of gaffer tape over the estate agents name, enabling people to still see the community event advert, and also allow themselves a wry smile at the duct tape over the sponsors name.
As someone said upthread, it would have been better for the wind to have blown a piece of gaffer tape over the estate agents name, enabling people to still see the community event advert, and also allow themselves a wry smile at the duct tape over the sponsors name.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Why shouldn't I?
While I would not have removed this sign, I very much approve of the general sentiment.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Likewise.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's what they do on Cressingham too, usually with cable/strap ties.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Frankly, an advertisement for a community event is usually a bit more about the event, with sponsorship usually mentioned in smaller print under the strapline/headline of the advertising - the name of the event, so purely for transgressing accepted layout practices, the sign deserved to be punished.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Secondarily to advertising a sponsor of the event, though.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
They are no problem. It's the nailed (or screwed) ones that cause trouble
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It only took me a phone-call to the planning dept (I was bored) this afternoon to establish that the council don't give permission to anyone to attach signage to either their temporary or their permanent signs (apparently not least because it would cost more to administrate than it could possibly bring in, according to the bored chap I spoke to). I also established that fixing "for sale" and "to let" signs to the exterior railings of estates (private or not) to advertise properties on the estates is also bad practice on the part of estate/lettings agents. Signs are apparently required to be attached to the actual property in question, rather than to an arbitrary location tens of metres away. Who'd have thought it, eh?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
They also need to be of a certain size and within the curtilage of the property. But it's the two-week rule that matters most.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I've seen more than a few brick gate posts on semis borked by twats nailing or screwing into the brick. Annoying and totally unnecessary.
One S. London estate agency in particular used steel strapping back in the '80s (like a giant jubilee clip tightened with a ratcheting device) which was sometimes even worse than nails if your brickwork was old and friable, because the straps were always over-tightened, often causing the faces to spall off of the bricks.
It also wasn't too healthy if you caught yourself on the strapping, as it was quite sharp-edged.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
So yes then
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Didn't know about the size rule, although it makes sense, or we'd be faced with the mega-boards some US states allow, or the tiny little ones (about A4 size) I saw in Belgium years ago.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
According to a bored fella answering the phone in Lambeth's planning dept, yes.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
As an aside, can I say how polite you've been this week? I don't think I've seen you swear once 
discobastard
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I would agree that's more of a respectful way to do it. No issue with that.Frankly, an advertisement for a community event is usually a bit more about the event, with sponsorship usually mentioned in smaller print under the strapline/headline of the advertising - the name of the event, so purely for transgressing accepted layout practices, the sign deserved to be punished.
discobastard
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Well you could equally argue that because the event but was in the middle it was the centre of attention. But that's just pedantry.
The issue is that it clearly advertised a community event and it got junked somehow. I personally think that was in the grand scheme of things an ungenerous act.
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