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editor said:
Those kind of people always get what they want because Lambeth are unlikely to give much of a fuck (see: Club 414/Canterbury etc).
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Its worth a go though.

Its a bit late but the premises has an interesting planning history. Looks like Phoenix moved there and tried to get permission to use the former shop as cafe retrospectively. The officer turned it down on basis that there were already enough food places nearby.

So its actually a planning issue. Rather than objecting on basis that I hate the thought of Soho House coming to CHL ( which I do).
 
Gramsci said:
I read this piece in Brixton Buzz about Soho House putting in a planning application for the premises where the Phoenix Cafe is.

I have put this objection in tonight. You can still do online comments.




Looking at the application it appears that change of use was refused several times. So even though it was used as cafe it , from what I can see, did not have the correct use category.

Hence Soho House putting this change of use application in. I wondered why they had.

So objecting to the change of use is valid in planning terms imo.

If the change of use can be stopped that will scupper Soho House plans.

Soho House already have enough business premises in London to keep them going.
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Isn't it hard to argue another restaurant on that site will lead to over concentration of restaurants in the area, given there has been a restaurant on that site for the last few years?
 
It's a "notification of prior approval" rather than straightforward planning application. i.e. a permitted changed subject to certain conditions. The only valid objections are those which demonstrate that a condition has not been met. All the conditions are set out in the planning statement.

Basically, it's going to be another chicken shop, as I understand it.
 
my understanding is the people who own the Phoenix tried several times for change of use and when Soho House approached them gave them their blessing to try and get change of use
 
Mr Retro said:
Isn't it hard to argue another restaurant on that site will lead to over concentration of restaurants in the area, given there has been a restaurant on that site for the last few years?
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Looks to me that the present use did not have planning approval.
 
organicpanda said:
my understanding is the people who own the Phoenix tried several times for change of use and when Soho House approached them gave them their blessing to try and get change of use
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That's what I heard too. The Phoenix people are furious with Lambeth.
 
Gramsci said:
I read this piece in Brixton Buzz about Soho House putting in a planning application for the premises where the Phoenix Cafe is.

I have put this objection in tonight. You can still do online comments.




Looking at the application it appears that change of use was refused several times. So even though it was used as cafe it , from what I can see, did not have the correct use category.

Hence Soho House putting this change of use application in. I wondered why they had.

So objecting to the change of use is valid in planning terms imo.

If the change of use can be stopped that will scupper Soho House plans.

Soho House already have enough business premises in London to keep them going.
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Has anyone spoken to Phoenix about what's going on?
E2A; I read the whole thread and got my question answered.
 
organicpanda said:
my understanding is the people who own the Phoenix tried several times for change of use and when Soho House approached them gave them their blessing to try and get change of use
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The permitted development rules have changed write a bit of late. Not sure of dates but it may be that that option was not available when they asked for retrospective planning. Or they just we're not up to date on the recent developments.
 
Rushy said:
The permitted development rules have changed write a bit of late. Not sure of dates but it may be that that option was not available when they asked for retrospective planning. Or they just we're not up to date on the recent developments.
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New rules permiting change of use came into effect April 15 this year. So Soner could have applied for permitted development in his last application but choose retrospective planning approval instead - which was correctly refused. I don't think Soner's architects were on the ball. Mistake (assuming current application is approved).
 
I wonder if a Soho House outpost would benefit Brixton's cultural life? Maybe more investment in local arts projects? I'd have thought the demographic would be different from the Clapham rugby shirt types in Seven and Market House and our other posh new venues. What are Soho House members like?
 
David Clapson said:
I wonder if a Soho House outpost would benefit Brixton's cultural life? Maybe more investment in local arts projects? I'd have thought the demographic would be different from the Clapham rugby shirt types in Seven and Market House and our other posh new venues. What are Soho House members like?
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Are there many Brixton residents who would be allowed to join? Seems like a mismatch to me. If it opens I think I shall stalk all the people who come out.
 
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