Brixton news, rumour and general chat - March 2016

[editor]

This was a great party on Saturday - it had a proper festival spirit!

In photos: Brixton Wonderland charity party at the Prince of Wales

 

[Angellic]

Does that mean they'll still be used after the restoration?

Video: Brixton's Old Market Barrows

 

[friendofdorothy]

Hi editor - I know you like taking photos - but how do all these lovely pics of bright (mostly white) young things on nights out enjoying themselves, help this thread? I know nightlife has always been an important part of Brixton - hey I've nothing against it - but don't these sort of endless photos of night time bar fun depict or even advertise Brixton as the sort of safe gentrified destination for the influx of affluent people so often derided on this thread?

Anyway it just reminds me I no longer can go out as often as I would like and that I'm becoming a miserable old git.

 

[editor]

Hi editor - I know you like taking photos - but how do all these lovely pics of bright (mostly white) young things on nights out enjoying themselves, help this thread? I know nightlife has always been an important part of Brixton - hey I've nothing against it - but don't these sort of endless photos of night time bar fun depict or even advertise Brixton as the sort of safe gentrified destination for the influx of affluent people so often derided on this thread

FYI: it was a charity event for the Wonder Years Charity which works in The Gambia. The event was run by volunteers. I'm sure those benefiting from the thousands of pounds raised won't give much of a shit about the colour of the people who helped raise the money.

Oh, and I'd estimate that this thread has about 0.1% actual influence in attracting 'affluent people' to come to Brixton for "night time bar fun".

Your post has quite pissed me off, btw.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Still makes me feel old.

 

[Ol Nick]

Probably isn't news, but listing for the Bowie Mural: Council to list Bowie mural and clear flowers - Brixton Blog

It's become more of an organic slime tribute than a floral tribute over the last week.

 

[editor]

It's become more of an organic slime tribute than a floral tribute over the last week.

They've cut it back considerably already:

David Bowie mural in Brixton to be protected by local listing as council considers permanent memorial

 

[editor]

In other news, here's some pics from the exhibition at the 198 Contemporary Arts & Learning in Railton Road in SE24,“Rockers Soulheads & Lovers: Sound Systems back in Da Day.”

Rockers Soulheads & Lovers: Sound Systems back in Da Day – exhibition at 198 Contemporary Arts, Railton Rd, SE24

And from Offline the night before:

Friday 18th March 2016, Brixton party night at the Offline Club, Prince Albert, 418 Coldharbour Lane, Brixton, London SW9, with DJs playing ska, d'n'b, electro, indie, punk, rock'n'roll, big band, rockabilly and skiffle

*both events were free

 

[Thimble Queen]

FYI: it was a charity event for the Wonder Years Charity which works in The Gambia. The event was run by volunteers. I'm sure those benefiting from the thousands of pounds raised won't give much of a shit about the colour of the people who helped raise the money.

Oh, and I'd estimate that this thread has about 0.1% actual influence in attracting 'affluent people' to come to Brixton for "night time bar fun".

Your post has quite pissed me off, btw.

Hooray for white saviours

More POC noted in the next set of pics. Balance restored.

 

[editor]

Hooray for white saviours

Wow.

 

[Thimble Queen]

Wow.

There are no cookies left.

 

[editor]

There are no cookies left.

I've no idea what you're on about, neither have any interest in pursuing whatever argument it is you're looking for, especially if you're going to post up divisive, childish and crass misrepresentations like, "Hooray for white saviours." I've got far better things to do today, thanks.

 

[sparkybird]

Am I going to get flamed or banned if I say it was nice of you to post up a pic of an older person to make Friend of Dorothy feel a bit better??

 

[editor]

Am I going to get flamed or banned if I say it was nice of you to post up a pic of an older person to make Friend of Dorothy feel a bit better??

He was the charming bloke who was greeting everyone at the 198.

Truth is, there's usually a wide mix of ages at most places I go to, although I do sometimes have moments when I look around and realise I'm probably the oldest person in the room. I can't do anything about that of course, and if I'm enjoying myself (and no one seems to object to my presence) then I don't see what's to be gained by worrying about it.

 

[David Clapson]

I wouldn't mind retrieving the album sleeve which I left at the Bowie memorial. I wonder whether it's already been binned?

 

[editor]

I wouldn't mind retrieving the album sleeve which I left at the Bowie memorial. I wonder whether it's already been binned?

I think quite a items got half inched or blown away in the wind. I've also seen loads of posters and artefacts slowly becoming unstuck over time, or disintegrating due to the effects of wind and frost. I'd consider that cover lost.

 

[David Clapson]

Someone probably nabbed it hoping there was some vinyl inside. I should have gifted them some anthrax or something. (Only joking, Mrs May.)

 

[Thimble Queen]

I've no idea what you're on about, neither have any interest in pursuing whatever argument it is you're looking for, especially if you're going to post up divisive, childish and crass misrepresentations like, "Hooray for white saviours." I've got far better things to do today, thanks.

Of course you don't enjoy the sunshine

 

[Harbourite]

He was the charming bloke who was greeting everyone at the 198.

Truth is, there's usually a wide mix of ages at most places I go to, although I do sometimes have moments when I look around and realise I'm probably the oldest person in the room. I can't do anything about that of course, and if I'm enjoying myself (and no one seems to object to my presence) then I don't see what's to be gained by worrying about it.

The constant pictures of people out enjoying themselves - how dare they.
Much prefer your ones of buildings etc. especially at night-time. Nice and desolate, lonely etc.

 

[editor]

The constant pictures of people out enjoying themselves - how dare they.
Much prefer your ones of buildings etc. especially at night-time. Nice and desolate, lonely etc.

Well, that's my favourite kind of shots too, but - dammit - people keep getting in the way sometimes!

 

[teuchter]

For those not suffering from workshop fatigue

The Brixton Exchange 2

 

[friendofdorothy]

Your post has quite pissed me off, btw.

Not sure why - it was a genuine question. Expected a spirited defence of role of night in Brixton or something. Thought I was the hormonally irratable one around here. I rarely comment on your photos - am I not allowed an opinion of them?

Hooray for white saviours

More POC noted in the next set of pics. Balance restored.

I think that is fair coment and you could have replied with better grace.

 

[editor]

Not sure why - it was a genuine question. Expected a spirited defence of role of night in Brixton or something.

Unlike almost all of the other club nights in Brixton, this one is entirely run by volunteers with all the money going to charity. I think that's something worth recording, but if you're telling me that they don't "help" this thread (whatever that means), you're going to have to explain to me what kind of photos would.

I share hundreds of Brixton photos every month covering all sorts of topics, and have done for decades, but if you're going to start criticising me for doing so, I'd appreciate some clarity.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I'm not sure why a photographer, who has been documenting all elements of Brixton life in pictures for a very long time, should have to justify one set of images showing one local event because it has too many young white people having fun and may/may not be representative of the oft discussed gentrification issues affecting the local community.

Those images may do that, or not, but a photographer who simply documents the area is just showing more images from the area. What those images say about the area or how the area might be changing for better or worse is not for the photographer to defend. It just is what it is.

I'll admit I looked at that set of pics and thought 'young, white, wealthy...yippee', but my feelings about that are no more the fault of the person documenting that time, place, those people, than my abhorrence at war photography showing horrendous violence or pictures of dead babies washing up on beaches.

Documenting what is happening does not make you complicit or approving of that which you are recording.

It might, if you start defending that which you are recording or actively promote what you are documenting, and that is worth discussing in an intelligent way and not snide jibes.

As for charity events, well, sometimes charity is more for the ego of those involved than the cause which may/may not receive any help.

 

[BigMoaner]

"dont shoot the messenger"

 

[stethoscope]

Ed's a photographer, he's been documenting the good, bad and indifferent of Brixton and elsewhere for years. What an odd criticism.

 

[Maharani]

People just want to jump on bandwagons. There's many others to jump on however.

 

[wurlycurly]

I'm not sure why a photographer, who has been documenting all elements of Brixton life in pictures for a very long time, should have to justify one set of images showing one local event because it has too many young white people having fun and may/may not be representative of the oft discussed gentrification issues affecting the local community.

Those images may do that, or not, but a photographer who simply documents the area is just showing more images from the area. What those images say about the area or how the area might be changing for better or worse is not for the photographer to defend. It just is what it is.

I'll admit I looked at that set of pics and thought 'young, white, wealthy...yippee', but my feelings about that are no more the fault of the person documenting that time, place, those people, than my abhorrence at war photography showing horrendous violence or pictures of dead babies washing up on beaches.

Documenting what is happening does not make you complicit or approving of that which you are recording.

It might, if you start defending that which you are recording or actively promote what you are documenting, and that is worth discussing in an intelligent way and not snide jibes.

As for charity events, well, sometimes charity is more for the ego of those involved than the cause which may/may not receive any help.

None of this is as important as Friendofdorothy, who is feeling old.

 

[teuchter]

I'm not sure why a photographer, who has been documenting all elements of Brixton life in pictures for a very long time, should have to justify one set of images showing one local event because it has too many young white people having fun and may/may not be representative of the oft discussed gentrification issues affecting the local community.

Those images may do that, or not, but a photographer who simply documents the area is just showing more images from the area. What those images say about the area or how the area might be changing for better or worse is not for the photographer to defend. It just is what it is.

I'll admit I looked at that set of pics and thought 'young, white, wealthy...yippee', but my feelings about that are no more the fault of the person documenting that time, place, those people, than my abhorrence at war photography showing horrendous violence or pictures of dead babies washing up on beaches.

Documenting what is happening does not make you complicit or approving of that which you are recording.

It might, if you start defending that which you are recording or actively promote what you are documenting, and that is worth discussing in an intelligent way and not snide jibes.

As for charity events, well, sometimes charity is more for the ego of those involved than the cause which may/may not receive any help.

I don't see how FOD's question was "snide".

 

[editor]

Here's some pics of more Brixton nightlife, this time of the lovely Experience bar. These days, I feel inclined not to post up about such hidden old school gems, but I've been nagged to death to give them a plug, so here it is. I might be doing a night there soon too.

Former Queen's Head regulars will recognise many familiar faces in here!

A late night club for Brixton – Experience Acoustic Bar & Club, 88 Loughborough Road, Brixton, SW9