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CH1 said:
Ratebeer quote this description:

"A recipe we originally devised to celebrate opening BrewDog Brixton in the city that gave birth to the Porter style. Unfortunately the deal for the site fell through at the last minute, but we still wanted to make the beer. Brixton Porter is a delightfully decadent yet eminently drinkable dark beer.
Malts – Extra pale, Dark crystal, Roast barley, black
Hops – Victoria’s Secret, Bramling Cross, Challenger"

They rate the bottled version at 89/100 which is pretty good.

I was wondering whether to sample it myself - maybe in my case best done on at a quiet time. After the "Tale of Two Cities" meeting on Monday evening sounds a likely bet.

I'm sure if it is a guest beer in the Albert you're talking £4.80 or even more per pint.
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£4.80 - ouch!
'Tale of two cities' meeting sounds interesting. Will it be the best of times or the worst of times?
 
Someone said earlier it was a term coined in the states, so are we to be given a set of 'expressions" and get to choose one to describe ourself. I would love to have been at the meeting where they came up with "people of colour"
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skf said:
Someone said earlier it was a term coined in the states, so are we to be given a set of 'expressions" and get to choose one to describe ourself. I would love to have been at the meeting where they came up with "people of colour"
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You can choose to describe yourself as you like. Doesn't matter the origin of the term or word. No one is forcing poptyping to adopt any description...that's poptyping's choice. Who are you to say it's wrong or right?
 
friendofdorothy said:
£4.80 - ouch!
'Tale of two cities' meeting sounds interesting. Will it be the best of times or the worst of times?
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This one (Gramsci also posted in another thread)
Tale of 2 cities.jpg

I imagine that your question was largely addressed in the two recent BBC2 documentaries "The Super Rich and Us".

It all reminds me of the biblical quote (Matthew 13:12)
For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Talking of which I would love Rt Rev Dr John Sentamu (formerly priest of Holy Trinity, Trinity Rise Herne Hill) to be on the panel - then he could explain that one!
 
We people who are darker than blue
Are we gonna stand around this town
And let what others say come true?
We're just good for nothing they all figure

A boyish, grown up, shiftless jigger
Now we can't hardly stand for that
Or is that really where it's at?
We people who are darker than blue

This ain't no time for segregatin'
I'm talking 'bout brown and yellow two
High yellow girl, can't you tell
You're just the surface of our dark deep well

If your mind could really see
You'd know your color the same as me
Pardon me, brother, as you stand in your glory
I know you won't mind if I tell the whole story

Get yourself together, learn to know your side
Shall we commit our own genocide
Before you check out your mind?

I know we've all got problems
That's why I'm here to say
Keep peace with me and I with you
Let me love in my own way

Now I know we have great respect
For the sister, and mother it's even better yet
But there's the joker in the street

Loving one brother and killing the other
When the time comes and we are really free
There'll be no brothers left you see

We people who are darker than blue
Don't let us hang around this town
And let what others say come true

We're just good for nothing they all figure
A boyish, grown up, shiftless jigger
Now we can't hardly stand for that
Or is that really where it's at?

Pardon me, brother, while you stand in your glory
I know you won't mind if I tell the whole story
Pardon me, brother, I know we've come a long, long way
But let us not be so satisfied for tomorrow can be an
An even brighter day





Read more: Curtis Mayfield - We The People Who Are Darker Than Blue Lyrics | MetroLyrics
 
boohoo said:
Dexter Deadwood But where are the poor going? There was talk of people being moved to other cities and towns. I wonder what that impact is . As Manter said will these people have access to opportunity or will it create new pockets of poverty in other cities leaving London to the rich.
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I was chatting to someone today who had been moved from Myatts Fields To Crystal Palace area when the new development at Myatts Fields was started. He will not be going back.

Afro Carribean people I know who grew up in Stokwell/ Brixton are in Croydon and Thornthan Heath.

One Black British person I know is going to Africa with her mother ( who was born in Africa). As she says London is not great place to live anymore. Wages and conditions of work have got worse and living costs have increased more than wages. She grew up in London.

It not a matter of opportunities it is a matter of work not being rewarded. Middle England might be doing ok but for working class living standards have dropped.

Talk of opportunities is a bit of a distraction from the issue of increasing inequality. Which is in other words how the wealth is distributed. Opportunities for what? My friend liked her job. As she said when she started it pay and conditions were ok. She had enough to get by and have a life. Not now.
 
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Everybody's Talking
About This Country's State
We Get A New Power Every Hour
Just About In Every Christian Fate
We're Killing Up Our Leaders
It Don't Matter None
Black Or White
And We All Know It's Wrong
And We're Gonna Fight To Make It Right

And Mighty, Mighty Spade And Whitey
Your Black And White Power
Is Gonna Be A Crumbling Tower
And We Who Stand Divided
So God Damn Undecided
Give This Some Thought
In Stupidness We've All Been Caught
There Really Ain't No Difference
If You're Cut You're Gonna Bleed
Might I Get A Little Bit Deeper
Human Life Is From The Semen Seed

Now I'm Gonna Say It Loud
I'm Just As Proud As The Brothers Too
And Just Like The Rest
I Don't Want No Mess About
Who's Taking Who
Repeat
 
Gramsci said:
I was chatting to someone today who had been moved from Myatts Fields To Crystal Palace area when the new development at Myatts Fields was started. He will not be going back.

Afro Carribean people I know who grew up in Stokwell/ Brixton are in Croydon and Thornthan Heath.
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Yesterday's Standard said that Wandsworth were using Lambeth properties - along with Birmingham, Kingston, Sutton, Reigate, Banstead, Merton, Croydon, and High Wycombe in order to house their homeless.

Unfortunately I cannot post the link as the Evening Standard has now changed to this e-paper system where you have to read through the whole paper in an onine e-edition.

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I went out in Brixton tonight for the first time in about 2.5 years. Wine parlour (2 bottles of house white, bread and oil, incredibly charming and flirtatious waiter, possibly Dutch, who I would have pounced on 1 child, and 10years ago); wahaca (incredibly charming hostess and waitress, good food, good wine, and a Mexican crickets special - with attendant blurb about sustainable sources of protein. Interesting, not unpleasant, but not particularly tasty); Kaff (distinctly average mojito served in a jam jar, heaving with hipsters. Interesting conversation with a chap in a beard and bun about where you earn enough money to live/party in Brixton if your general hipsterness means you can't actually work anywhere lucrative).

Lovely time, generally. Noticed it's heaving compared to when I last went out regularly- the price of parenthood- but the atmosphere was similar. Lots of people from all sorts of backgrounds and places either getting on or amiably ignoring each other.

That said I did leave at midnight so not sure if it gets lairy later.
 
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Afro Carribean people I know who grew up in Stokwell/ Brixton are in Croydon and Thornthan Heath.
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Both of my neighbours were Afro Caribbean. Both now live in Croydon- but both still own their houses in Brixton and are renting them. One side renovated the whole thing and has 'young professionals' in it; the other side didn't and rents to 'hipsters'.
 
boohoo said:
Even with these stats, what is the reality? Where are the voices of the people living these experiences? In the future when historians are trying to understand what happen, will they decide that they have a clear insight into those people defined as deprived?
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Good question.

Mass Observation did this.

The voice of a lot of people are not recorded. Unless its in government documents, court records etc.

Even with Mass Observation is was observing from outside.

I had a long chat today with someone this morning who had lived in or around Brixton for life. Realise now he had told me a lot about the history of living on one of the estates. On my way back tonight stopped in a cafe/ bakery I use and got chatting to a couple of people there complaining about being hounded by the social and London being for the rich now.

What I am saying is that there is a whole wealth of info out there in brief chats to people but its not recorded.
 
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Manter said:
Both of my neighbours were Afro Caribbean. Both now live in Croydon- but both still own their houses in Brixton and are renting them. One side renovated the whole thing and has 'young professionals' in it; the other side didn't and rents to 'hipsters'.
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There are some who bought there houses years ago and are now cashing in.

But there are a lot of Black British who grew up in Brixton and moved south as Brixton became to costly.
 
Manter said:
I went out in Brixton tonight for the first time in about 2.5 years. Wine parlour (2 bottles of house white, bread and oil, incredibly charming and flirtatious waiter, possibly Dutch, who I would have pounced on 1 child, and 10years ago); wahaca (incredibly charming hostess and waitress, good food, good wine, and a Mexican crickets special - with attendant blurb about sustainable sources of protein. Interesting, not unpleasant, but not particularly tasty); Kaff (distinctly average mojito served in a jam jar, heaving with hipsters. Interesting conversation with a chap in a beard and bun about where you earn enough money to live/party in Brixton if your general hipsterness means you can't actually work anywhere lucrative).

Lovely time, generally. Noticed it's heaving compared to when I last went out regularly- the price of parenthood- but the atmosphere was similar. Lots of people from all sorts of backgrounds and places either getting on or amiably ignoring each other.

That said I did leave at midnight so not sure if it gets lairy later.
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I was at the Albert DJing. It was packed with an enthusiastic and mixed crowd.
 
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