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Brixton news, rumour and general chat - February 2015

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You are all amateurs. My OH is the most romantic man in Brixton and has promised me this treat in the Valentines offers in Lidl this week :cool:

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http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?action=showDetail&id=20562

Sorry ladies but he's mine :cool:
Thats reminded of the time we bought a flat pack gas bbq in Argos. After "helping" my wife put it together for an hour, but only succeeding in generating ever smaller pieces of the bbq, she suggested I might like a few pints in the Canterbury.

She joined me about 45 mins later having assembled it and carrying the makings of a bbq meal. I did the cooking though, I am the fucking man after all.
 
Back to B Our Guest - if my memory serves me right then the sign was part of the Brixton Expo that took place in 2003. I quite like the sign. It has a faded glory that no one with any authority can be arsed to touch. It is one of the last remaining symbols of old Brixton (which actually was becoming Nu Brixton, even then...)
It'll probably soon be saying, "Waitrose this way" (points to former site of businesses in arches in Atlantic Road).
 
Anywhere between the high street and my home and whoever currently occupies that site
If you like them that much, it may be quicker for you to just move next to an existing Waitrose site rather than wait in hope of one arriving near you.
 
Then I wish you a happy holiday and that you enjoy as many alfresco brunches as you want while you are there. Are you pretending to think I have said it's wrong for people to go on holiday?

I'm not pretending anything. I was simply explaining that not all (nor any, AFAICS) of us are "jetsetters", and that in most cases we won't be jetting off to Berlin to enjoy a "Berlin Brunch", we'll be enjoying same as part of a (long-awaited) holiday.

The whole point of this is the repeated comments about how X costs more than Y spends on basic living costs per week/month/year. Some event/restaurant/whatever in Brixton is criticised on the basis of what it costs, and then that amount of money is placed against another amount which represents what some of Brixton's most hard-up have to live off. And the underlying implication is that there's some kind of moral problem with money being spent frivolously in Brixton when it's in the context of the poverty of some who live nearby.

Of course there's a moral issue, but it goes far wider than Brixton. That said, people here use Brixton as the example because we live here, we see the poverty, and we see the effect that expensive clubs, bars and restaurants are having, especially as some, perhaps a majority of those outlets, repatriate their profits outside the area. That might not bother the majority of posters, or even more than a tiny minority of Brixton residents, but it bothers me because I've been watching this happen in different parts of south London for over 40 years now, and I'm fairly well-acquainted with how the story plays out.

Well, you can argue there is if you want but then at least be consistent, instead of cherry picking certain examples like, say, this Berlin Brunch - which I won't certainly be wasting any of my money on - but I'm not going to judge those who do, in the sneering way that comes round again and again on this thread.

And who is it judging what comprises sneering, and who is sneering, teuchter? You who won't judge how people spend their money, but are happy to judge posters whose worldview and morality differ from yours?

If people are going to imply that there's something wrong with this frivolous spending on eating out, then it seems rather as if they don't think they ever engage in the same themselves. Or is it OK if it's conducted outwith the bounds of Brixton?

In my own case, I don't "eat out". Most restaurants aren't disability-friendly in terms of accessibility yet, and likely won't be until accessibility is mandatory - even then, it'll only apply to new-build.
I'm not sure people are objecting to "frivolous spending when eating out". It appears to me that the objection is to the price per se, and perhaps to the knock-on effect that higher prices can have on other outlets. We've already seen "local" restaurants closing over the last few years because of rent/lease cost issues. I certainly worry that rentiers are encouraged by higher prices in "entertainment"-based outlets such as club, pubs and restaurants, and that this feeds an already-existing problem for locals.

I'm not going to criticise you or anyone else for spending your disposable income on holidays any more than I'm going to criticise some twentysomethings for spending their twenty quid on a faux Berlin Brunch experience. Or the hundreds of people spending fifty quid on a night out at the Dogstar every weekend, as has been going on for years anyway. Or any of the other Brixton bars, restaurants, clubs, venues, whatever.
I don't object to people spending their money as they wish.
I find spending £20 on a "faux Berlin Brunch experience" sad. I find it sad for 2 reasons:
1) As you've already noted, it's likely to be inauthentic.
2) You're unlikely to pay the Euro equivalent of £20 on brunch in Berlin even at a decent quality restaurant, rather than a cafe.

And my making this point will now be spun into an implication that I don't give a toss about the poor of Brixton, or that I am a cheerleader for the systemic processes that are changing Brixton into something that I don't want any more than many others here. Or perhaps someone particularly disingenuous will twist things into an unpleasant accusation of "psychological abuse" just because I choose not to go along with the lazy, sneery tone of repetitive commentary that seems so often to dominate this thread.

Have you seen yourself in this martyr role for long, or is it a fairly new thing?
 
You've got your terminology a bit confused here. AFAIK this is a £20 lunch from Market House, rather than "the market".
BTW I would be more likely to have a day trip to Berlin on Ryan Air for £19.99 and sandwiches from Lidl rather than a £20 "brunch" at Market House.

Fair dos! As I'm mostly housebound nowadays, I'm not up-to-date on the retail topography of central Brixton. :)
 
Do you really? Personally, I hope that the small businesses who have been serving Brixton for decades get to stay where they are.

And IMO that's the crux, because removing those small businesses from the retail equation often has a bad effect on the poorer parts of the community. I watched this happen in North Battersea in the early '80s, and it eventually meant that about 2/3rds of the local independent retailers selling "everyday" stuff to the local "poor" were gone, replaced by restaurants, delis and shops selling objets. Even the street market on Battersea High St shrank to half the size, and went from being open daily, 6 days a week, to being only open Thursday to Saturday. Northcote Rd was somewhat luckier, in that the street market there was more resistant to change and served a much larger spread of the population of Battersea, but even then quite a few of the shops morphed from places selling household goods and "ethnic cuisine" ingredients, into restaurants, wine bars, estate agencies or "novelty goods" stores like the (nice but expensive) shop selling wooden toys.
 
Loads of space between the tracks on Pope's Road for a full-sized supermarket.
When that was a Tesco's (up to 1985) it was at least as big as the present one on Acre Lane. Didn't have much of a car park though (just the roof AFAIR).
 
When that was a Tesco's (up to 1985) it was at least as big as the present one on Acre Lane. Didn't have much of a car park though (just the roof AFAIR).
Opposite that I think. Behind the toilets.
 
Opposite that I think. Behind the toilets.
Surely Crispy was being disingenuously ironic - anybody who was in Brixton before 1985 would remember the Pope's Road Tescos.

The building you are referring to used to be Station Road Furniture Store, but has languished in a derelict state for 20 years. Not sure why.
 
Surely Crispy was being disingenuously ironic - anybody who was in Brixton before 1985 would remember the Pope's Road Tescos.

The building you are referring to used to be Station Road Furniture Store, but has languished in a derelict state for 20 years. Not sure why.
I can tell you why: £££££££££.
 
I always assumed quick save was on the right of that pic with the pink signage?
For the avoidance of doubt for the obtuse among us their sign looked like this:
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They had a peculiar arrangement in the shop. It was full width at the back but the front 25% or so of the shop was like a half-width arcade with a shop selling cuddly toys and soft furnishings to the left and a concession selling cold meat, eggs and cheeses on the right.

My most cherished memory of the place was when I smashed a large bottle of red wine (on the the customer side of the checkout), having just paid. The cashier very helpfully sent me to get another (at Kwik Save's expense).

The other great thing about them from my point of view was they sold Park Drive cigarettes. Probably illegal now - but when I smoked I wanted a bit of nicotine in my cigarettes, not this namby pamby lite stuff we are stuck with now.

I thought Kwik Save was an excellent addition to the Brixton "offer" and was sad to see them close. Allegedly they closed in a wrangle over renewing their lease.
 
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