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regarding the lambeth recycling debate - i spent a brief period in 2008 working for lambeth street care or street scene or whatever they're called, based at the depot on shakespeare road. lambeth at the time had a contract with a waste recycling company, probably still do, which i took a look at. that company recycle basically everything - not just what lambeth say you can recycle, and charge lambeth based on the tonnage they take of each type of material, and iirc pay . the price paid depends on a number of factors - generally how much the company gets after breaking down the raw materials vs costs of breaking it down. some materials are not so good for the recyclers, there isn't much call for. so we're told not to recycle yoghurt pots or margerine tubs etc. but the contract states that lambeth pay £x for x tons of this material - it's harder to recycle and there's less of it about so the price is higher. so why do lambeth tell us not to recycle these things? presumably because they price they pay is too higher than the price they pay to remove normal plastics.

my response was once i realised that the company recycled almost everything i put almost everything in the bag. clothes, metals, yoghurt pots, everything possible.

toblerone3 - you did that job before me, have i got the gist right do you recall?
 
That's basically my thinking. Getting stuff that is recyclable to the recycling depot must be better than putting in landfill.

When we re-did our bathroom last year I put the massive metal stirrup thingys that supported the old bath in there.

(We have a bin here, not bags)
 
el-ahrairah said:
regarding the lambeth recycling debate - i spent a brief period in 2008 working for lambeth street care or street scene or whatever they're called, based at the depot on shakespeare road. lambeth at the time had a contract with a waste recycling company, probably still do, which i took a look at. that company recycle basically everything - not just what lambeth say you can recycle, and charge lambeth based on the tonnage they take of each type of material, and iirc pay . the price paid depends on a number of factors - generally how much the company gets after breaking down the raw materials vs costs of breaking it down. some materials are not so good for the recyclers, there isn't much call for. so we're told not to recycle yoghurt pots or margerine tubs etc. but the contract states that lambeth pay £x for x tons of this material - it's harder to recycle and there's less of it about so the price is higher. so why do lambeth tell us not to recycle these things? presumably because they price they pay is too higher than the price they pay to remove normal plastics.

my response was once i realised that the company recycled almost everything i put almost everything in the bag. clothes, metals, yoghurt pots, everything possible.

toblerone3 - you did that job before me, have i got the gist right do you recall?
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The separation machines they use sound fascinating- I'd love to see one.
 
Onket said:
That's basically my thinking. Getting stuff that is recyclable to the recycling depot must be better than putting in landfill.

When we re-did our bathroom last year I put the massive metal stirrup thingys that supported the old bath in there.

(We have a bin here, not bags)
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here in bromley we have a wheelie bin for "paper and card" and a wheelie bin for "bottles and cans". i have mentally extended the definition of bottles and cans to mean "glass, plastic, and metal" and throw it all in. no-one has complained so far!
 
We've got a wheelie bin for recycling & have to use bin liners for non-recycling.

Recycling goes every two weeks & the bin liners every week.
 
el-ahrairah said:
tell me more, i assumed most of the seperation was done by hand?
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Some separation is but surprisingly little. If you read this: http://www.waste-management-world.c...iques-in-today-s-european-market.htm?m_n=true there are machines that measure light spectrums, particle size and all sorts that they use.

I know about this stuff not because I'm very, very sad (well, I may be, but that's incidental) but because I used to work in a food manufacturing plant and the machines we used were made by a firm that also made recycling sorting machines. So, for example, our process used puffed rice- there was a conveyor belt that carried the rice over a light beam and if the beam was broken, it knew there was a burnt or unpuffed granule, and a gust of air blew it off the line into a waste hopper. It was amazingly clever- apparently they use a similar process to check that all the same sort of plastics are together at the end of a sorting process.

I love manufacturing equipment, it's properly genius stuff
 
el-ahrairah said:
regarding the lambeth recycling debate - i spent a brief period in 2008 working for lambeth street care or street scene or whatever they're called, based at the depot on shakespeare road. lambeth at the time had a contract with a waste recycling company, probably still do, which i took a look at. that company recycle basically everything - not just what lambeth say you can recycle, and charge lambeth based on the tonnage they take of each type of material, and iirc pay . the price paid depends on a number of factors - generally how much the company gets after breaking down the raw materials vs costs of breaking it down. some materials are not so good for the recyclers, there isn't much call for. so we're told not to recycle yoghurt pots or margerine tubs etc. but the contract states that lambeth pay £x for x tons of this material - it's harder to recycle and there's less of it about so the price is higher. so why do lambeth tell us not to recycle these things? presumably because they price they pay is too higher than the price they pay to remove normal plastics.

my response was once i realised that the company recycled almost everything i put almost everything in the bag. clothes, metals, yoghurt pots, everything possible.

toblerone3 - you did that job before me, have i got the gist right do you recall?
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I was tickled at the time to hear that we both did the same job in late 2008. I was only there for two months though and didn't manage to find out the level of information that you uncovered about the recycling contracts. But what you say sounds about right. I do remember that there were quite a few penalty clauses built into the dust lorry contracts if they picked up the wrong bag or failed to pick up a bag etc. There's a lot of interesting things connected with street management going on in that depot in Shakespeare Road eg (regulation of A-boards, illegal dog-fighting, graffitti, street trading, markets, CCTV, food standards, fly-tipping... etc)
 
editor said:
Fucks sakes: Lambeth Landmark have let their domain slip without bothering to tell anyone, so http://lambethlandmark.com/ now goes to a Japanese pressure washer site.

So that's about 300 links I have up update on my site. :mad:
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How did the Japanese Karcher know to take it? Could you have taken it had you so desired or would Lambeth have kicked off?
 
teuchter said:
Fair enough. Don't know why editor didn't just say that instead of freaking out. I'll have a look next time I'm passing.
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Can't speak for editor would not presume to do so nor anyone else for that matter but as a bystander, as a reader of the thread i'm vicariously irritated by the ad hominem attacks.
You are clearly intelligent, knowledgeable and love Brixton and its environs and how you post is a matter for you but i think you let yourself down at times.
 
Interestingly, the psycho who threatened to kill everyone at our 'play streets' day last week was in a car with fake plates, Tulse Hill cop just told me.

In the summer, a neighbour's car was hit on this road by a speeding vehicle, which proved to be similarly untraceable.
 
leanderman said:
Interestingly, the psycho who threatened to kill everyone at our 'play streets' day last week was in a car with fake plates, Tulse Hill cop just told me.

In the summer, a neighbour's car was hit on this road by a speeding vehicle, which proved to be similarly untraceable.
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what a good idea, i must get some of them when i have learnt to drive.
 
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