Brixton chitter chatter, part 2
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Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Because they got their info from Lambeth Council.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
So am I right in thinking that the whole estate got renamed and renumbered at some point? I vaguely recall that at a couple of Lambeth estates got new addresses to try to get around post code blacklisting of their tenants for credit.
What are the 30 or so properties listed in this document [gas supplies provided through Metropolitan Housing Trust Ltd] with Hollybush Walk addresses now know as?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Eaton Drive. Been so for about a decade or more when the estate was completely remodelled and crime-ridden alleyways removed, houses 'turned round' and new roads built. Lambeth has a bit of a thing about this estate since they voted to leave council control.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Kent Walk and Pelican Drive don't exist either.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
When I moved onto this estate I had no end of trouble from utility companies who said my house didn't exist.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Doesn't surprise me. In the place I used to rent, they got the replacement gas meters the wrong way around. In the end it was easier for us to agree to renumber the "flats" i.e. glorified bedsits than to get the billing addressed changed!
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
http://www.antic-ltd.com/
this pub company, owner of the Dogstar in Brixton, and 15 other pubs have bought the White Hart in Clapton - site of the old Chimes bar and Palace night club - closed down a few years ago for trouble , - have they done a good job with the Dogstar? they also own confusingly, the White Hart in nearby Stoke Newington - which is ok, been there a few times.
this pub company, owner of the Dogstar in Brixton, and 15 other pubs have bought the White Hart in Clapton - site of the old Chimes bar and Palace night club - closed down a few years ago for trouble , - have they done a good job with the Dogstar? they also own confusingly, the White Hart in nearby Stoke Newington - which is ok, been there a few times.
boohoo
No.
There pubs aren't too bad. Doing anything with Chimes ( apart from pulling it down or leaving it to rot) is a good thing in my books.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
the cinema building is still for sale apparently, would love it became a cinema again.
boohoo
No.
What happen to the campaign about that ?
( this is fun -Hackney chatter on a Brixton chatter thread....
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boohoo
No.
Chimes Bar
Editor, you will like this weblink:
Nice website of Hackney then and now from a book made in the late 1970s.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I saw it on Monday night as well. Lots of crystals and hemp type stuff, but not a lot else. Didn't go in as it was 10.00pm so could only see what was in the window
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hiraethified
I do indeed!
It's quite depressing how cars blight the later views, and it'll be a lot worse now.
boohoo
No.
I was lucky to get a copy of this book.
One missing pub:
http://www.michalj.net/projects/second_look/53
Two Missing Pub
http://www.michalj.net/projects/second_look/52
Three missing pub:
http://www.michalj.net/projects/second_look/46
Actually i think there are a couple more in the book, all gone over the last ten years...
Anyway, I suppose I should say something about Brixton....
Did anyone else see the ruck on CHL in front of Clifton Mansions a little earlier? I'm curious as to how it got started. Two people were arrested by plain clothes officers, one of them for an alleged offensive weapon offence. A crowd gathered, one of the officers radioed for 'urgent assistance' and about 25 more showed up double quick. People were shouting "police brutality" and trying to intervene. The officers looked very relieved when they got the second prisoner into the paddy wagon and were obviously very, very keen to leave the scene before things escalated. Lots of people were taking photos and phoning their friends to get them to come down and join in. If the arresting officer didn't have solid grounds for what he did he'll get a proper bollocking. I hope the prisoners won't be fitted up to justify the 'operation'.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
It was not well handled by the police at all in my opinion. It could have ended up a lot nastier.
More info. What I've been given to understand is that the guy arrested for the offensive weapon thing was Trevor Hogg, who is in his sixties and has a criminal record. His arrest was somewhat physical and several people approached to see what was going on. One of them was Blacker Dread. One of Blacker Dread's employees then approached him to pass him some keys. This put the employee close to the guy who was being arrested. The officers objected and told him to move away. He said words to the effect of "I'm only trying to give Blacker these keys" and was arrested by six or seven officers who knelt on his back and so on. This was all witnessed by schoolkids who got very angry. Mrs M., does this fit with your impression?
This is all at second hand from a witness who I know and trust but who was just an observer. I'll try to find out more tomorrow with a view to helping with any legitimate complaints or legal action. Anyone else is welcome to pitch in, especially if, like me, they are white and middle class. (Because we are the only ones who the police think they are answerable to.)
It would be all too easy to make a full time job out of this stuff, just in Brixton. As far as I can see, solicitors paid for by the Legal Aid scheme barely scratch the surface. And the Afro-Caribbean community tend to accept it, perhaps from fear or ignorance of the system or a belief that the odds are so stacked against them that it's pointless to ask for your rights. Anyway, if I do get involved it'll be the third time, and so far my success rate has been 100%. I won't prejudge this one, perhaps the guy got what was coming to him. But if it's as bad as it sounds I'll want to see it through and I hope some other urbanz feel the same way.
This is all at second hand from a witness who I know and trust but who was just an observer. I'll try to find out more tomorrow with a view to helping with any legitimate complaints or legal action. Anyone else is welcome to pitch in, especially if, like me, they are white and middle class. (Because we are the only ones who the police think they are answerable to.)
It would be all too easy to make a full time job out of this stuff, just in Brixton. As far as I can see, solicitors paid for by the Legal Aid scheme barely scratch the surface. And the Afro-Caribbean community tend to accept it, perhaps from fear or ignorance of the system or a belief that the odds are so stacked against them that it's pointless to ask for your rights. Anyway, if I do get involved it'll be the third time, and so far my success rate has been 100%. I won't prejudge this one, perhaps the guy got what was coming to him. But if it's as bad as it sounds I'll want to see it through and I hope some other urbanz feel the same way.
ajdown
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If this guy is carrying a weapon in public then surely the colour of his skin, or his age, is irrelevant? It's a criminal act and thus deserves to get arrested.
Whether it was handled well or not is, of course, another story - and from what you've posted there sounds like it wasn't.
Whether it was handled well or not is, of course, another story - and from what you've posted there sounds like it wasn't.
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