Brixton chitter chatter part 1 (Nov 2006-June 2008)

[Not a Vet]

See below - taken from the Lambeth Transport Partnership Forum on 14th Feb 07
It was proposed that route 333 will run between Brixton and London, through Stockwell Road then Clapham towards the Oval. 333 will therefore not run on Brixton Road.

 

[teuchter]

While we're at it, can we have a Brockwell Park Orbital route, going Herne Hill - Tulse Hill - Hobgoblin/Hootenanny - Herne Hill, running every ten minutes after dusk when it's too dark to walk across the park, please? That would be handy.

 

[clandestino]

No, you're right, it doesn't make sense to have two such similar bus routes when Brixton Hill is so badly served, but the 333 is still my bus seriously, it's like the route was designed with me in mind.

If you have an Oyster card, you'll still be able to get the 133, then change onto the 333 at Kennington. A bit of a hassle, but at least it'll be possible!

 

[Pip]

If you have an Oyster card, you'll still be able to get the 133, then change onto the 333 at Kennington. A bit of a hassle, but at least it'll be possible!

Do you mean a travelcard on my Oyster? Is there some nifty thing where getting two buses doesn't cost an extra 90p?

 

[Kanda]

Is a travelcard not cheaper for you? Depends if you do the journey daily I guess.

 

[clandestino]

Do you mean a travelcard on my Oyster? Is there some nifty thing where getting two buses doesn't cost an extra 90p?

well after a while you don't get charged any more - if you make enough journeys to add up to a travelcard. but i guess if you're just making two bus journeys a day, then it will cost more. it's annoying - you should be able to change, just as you can on the tube.

 

[clandestino]

one other thought. i'm assuming you live on the stretch of brixton road between brixton and oval. could you walk over to clapham road and pick up the 333 from there? it's not that far

 

[kyser_soze]

Now they need to look at improvin SW-SE links...it's shite having to rely on trains (Tulse-Peck Rye, then change for Lewisham direction trains), and the less than great P13 and P4 routes...

 

[Pip]

one other thought. i'm assuming you live on the stretch of brixton road between brixton and oval. could you walk over to clapham road and pick up the 333 from there? it's not that far

Nah, I live by the Mitcham/Tooting bit of Streatham, but about half of my friends live further down the 333 route. I can easily walk into Streatham and get a 133 though.

 

[teuchter]

Now they need to look at improvin SW-SE links...it's shite having to rely on trains (Tulse-Peck Rye, then change for Lewisham direction trains), and the less than great P13 and P4 routes...

Indeed!

Or reopen Brixton East station...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Now they need to look at improvin SW-SE links...it's shite having to rely on trains (Tulse-Peck Rye, then change for Lewisham direction trains), and the less than great P13 and P4 routes...

Oh, they're not really that important though are they

 

[quimcunx]

It may be useful when travelling to Northern Line destinations in general. Once the new routing begins, perhaps we should do some kind of experiment to test what is quicker; getting the 333 through to Stockwell and then changing onto the Northern Line, or getting the bus down the hill, getting the Vic Line and then changing again. It will probably all depend on how quickly a 333 turns up.

We'd also need to test it against the 159 and 59 getting off at oval.

Can we have some volunteers for time trials please.

 

[teuchter]

We'd also need to test it against the 159 and 59 getting off at oval.

Can we have some volunteers for time trials please.

Come the new year I'll start a thread to resolve this....

 

[quimcunx]

While we're at it, can we have a Brockwell Park Orbital route, going Herne Hill - Tulse Hill - Hobgoblin/Hootenanny - Herne Hill, running every ten minutes after dusk when it's too dark to walk across the park, please? That would be handy.

That's actually a rather good idea. Probably. I don't have that dilemma myself so don't know how big a problem it is.

 

[Kanda]

I wish they would half the amount of Bus stops on Brixton Hill. There's so fucking many of them it can take 15 minutes to get from top to bottom. Especially when some bus drivers drive in convey and fail to overtake and wait behind the bus in front when no-one is getting on or off!!

 

[teuchter]

I wish they would half the amount of Bus stops on Brixton Hill. There's so fucking many of them it can take 15 minutes to get from top to bottom. Especially when some bus drivers drive in convey and fail to overtake and wait behind the bus in front when no-one is getting on or off!!

I agree. They should close all of them except the ones at the end of my road.

 

[Kanda]

They could easily remove every other one. There's so fucking many, I get off a stop earlier on the way up the hill because it's quicker to walk that last stretch than stay on the bus.

 

[tarannau]

They should just close them all and let the lazy fuckers get on at the main travel terminus up in the town centre.

Obviously there should be a special invalids/club foot/terminal laziness service that picks up the occasional slacker, but it shouldn't really stop on the brixton Nick - Town Centre stretch. It's not much of a walk

 

[Not a Vet]

What I've never understood and this may be going off at a tangent is why the Stop buttons (on buses) are also in braile upstairs. I mean it's not like they have buttons upstairs for any other reasons

 

[quimcunx]

They should just close them all and let the lazy fuckers get on at the main travel terminus up in the town centre.

Obviously there should be a special invalids/club foot/terminal laziness service that picks up the occasional slacker, but it shouldn't really stop on the brixton Nick - Town Centre stretch. It's not much of a walk

Brixton Nick should be the last stop before brixton and going up the hill first stop should be across from Nisa except for the buses which have just turned up the hill again from terminating at the fridge - as detailed below.

The brixton terminus should be outside the fridge for buses that terminate at brixton allowing them to get out of the way of the high road congestion and head back up the hill.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I wish they would half the amount of Bus stops on Brixton Hill. There's so fucking many of them it can take 15 minutes to get from top to bottom. Especially when some bus drivers drive in convey and fail to overtake and wait behind the bus in front when no-one is getting on or off!!

They took some away years and you want more?

There used to be one outside Capital Printers and one outside the Electronics Store (next to the White Horse). They removed both and replaced them with one outside Mace/Nisa.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

We'd also need to test it against the 159 and 59 getting off at oval.

Can we have some volunteers for time trials please.

I wouldn't mind doing it one day when nobody's in to see how late I am (ie. between Christmas and New Year)

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I agree. They should close all of them except the ones at the end of my road.

and the one outside Renton Close and the one outside Mace/Nisa and the one near the top of the Hill where the chemist is and the one further up where Sainsburys is.

Otherwise, after MACE/NISA, shut the lot of them

 

[quimcunx]

I agree. They should close all of them except the ones at the end of my road.

Yep, just the two stops I use should remain. i.e. across from nisa, and the nick.

and the crossing should be moved to nisa, save me having to dither about at the roadside waiting for a gap.

 

[teuchter]

The brixton terminus should be outside the fridge for buses that terminate at brixton allowing them to get out of the way of the high road congestion and head back up the hill.

That's not such a bad idea. Might be that the road layout means they can't actually turn round back onto Effra road though.

Quite often it's quicker to get off there and walk to the tube station anyway, rather than stay on while the bus fights its way through the high street (this morning including altercations with a white van man...)

 

[quimcunx]

They should just close them all and let the lazy fuckers get on at the main travel terminus up in the town centre.

that's another thing we could really do with an actual bus terminus. Any other tube station that has that many buses stopping at it would have one. But then without razing brixton market it's hard to know where to put it. Then the pavements would seem a bit more roomy too.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Yep, just the two stops I use should remain. i.e. across from nisa, and the nick.

and the crossing should be moved to nisa, save me having to dither about at the roadside waiting for a gap.

You'll never get a crossing there - well you might actually, but not one opposite the White Horse. I petitioned about 20 years ago for one after loads of people kept getting run over there.

Local shopkeepers stuck their oars in saying nobody would be able to park outside their shops

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

that's another thing we could really do with an actual bus terminus. Any other tube station that has that many buses stopping at it would have one. But then without razing brixton market it's hard to know where to put it. Then the pavements would seem a bit more roomy too.

Knock down St Matthew's Church and Windmill Gardens Or how about KFC, Woolsworths, Prince of Wales, Prince Albert, Living Bar etc.

 

[quimcunx]

Woolies is probably listed. 3 of the places you mention are pubs, so that makes no sense.

How about McDonalds and KFC? Or the Police station. Tate Gardens now that they've concreted it over again, and Windrush square?

 

[bluestreak]

I'm pretty sure we could find somewhere to knock down and build a bus terminus that we all agree with.

The job centre maybe?