Brixton chitter chatter part 1 (Nov 2006-June 2008)
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Orang Utan
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Mwahahahaha - another sports screen pub bites the dust. It pleases me. 
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*whisperstarannau said:Poor pubs. Where am I going to watch the footie now? Half Moon, Ganleys, Regent, Commercial, and now the Hob... all purged or likely to be purged of troublesome things like football screens and less than compliant, quietly respectable punters buying food at gatropub prices.
We will fight them on the beaches, the beer gardens, the gazebos and the lounge bars. I'm going to find out more about this - the resistance starts here.
The Dogstar's got big screens for footie and there's a rumour that the Albert might be getting a slightly larger screen in.
Mind you, the Dogstar's got quite a few problems of its own right now...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Although it ain't great that the entire pub is to close. Is there not a law about this? Surely the Hob made money, so there's no great reason to change it into something else?
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Sadly, there's nothing to stop property developers waving their big fat wads about and seeing off pubs that have served the community for decades, if not centuries.Orang Utan said:
It's happening everywhere and it's horrible to see important parts of the community destroyed forever for short term profit.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
absolutely gutted if this is true. it's been my local for the best part of 10 years. i will find out more tonight when i pop down there...tarannau said:
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
reggae/ska fans
just walked past Jamm on my lunchbreak and saw that The Beat are playing there next Thursday, 16 August. some breast cancer charity gig. anyone who's into a bit of ska should check them out...there's only rankin roger from the original 1980s line up, but they still do a wicked live show and play all the classics.
just walked past Jamm on my lunchbreak and saw that The Beat are playing there next Thursday, 16 August. some breast cancer charity gig. anyone who's into a bit of ska should check them out...there's only rankin roger from the original 1980s line up, but they still do a wicked live show and play all the classics.
twisted said:
Not that much closer. I'm between the Hob and the Effra really. But that's better than the Dof E. Really wish you hadn't mentioned the Man U thing though.
The Commercial and Ganleys were once great for watching the footie. One of my better mates around here's a Salford boy and huge City supporter - you could always count on a huge ABMU crowd for the big games - it was sweet seeing City crush Utd a few years back in Ganleys. It was amazing just how much noisier the City boys were.... and how fast the prawn-munching fairweathers left the pub.
Good times. Sadly they seem so far away.
Fingers crossed for The Hob - local gossip's got a habit of streaking away after all - but I get the feeling things are a changing. Let's hope it's better than the initial reports suggest.
boozybirdie
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What problems?? Possibly some types they may not want but no worse than most places........unless you know otherwise, share the goss
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
tarannau said:
Well it was a while back but I;ve never been on a Man u night...obviously.
tarannau said:
That was the Commercial surely? When Trevor Sinclair scored I thought my mate had gone into convulsions....he just lay on the floor laughing. Not only did we trash them 4-1 but they let Sinclair who was (kind words here) on a really bad run of form score.
Anyway I really mis those two joints. Both perfect for football but neither of them scuzzy or overly macho either.
Minnie_the_Minx
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lemontop said:
I thought there was something different when I stood there waiting to get a bus
gaijingirl
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ARe they removing them once a year or something? If you mean the no 2/432 bus stop.. that only became the skunk skunk whistle bus stop after all the dealers decamped from the 45 bus stop - after that shelter was taken down.
Where will it end? Maybe if they remove ALL the bus stops there will be no more drug dealing ever??
Where will it end? Maybe if they remove ALL the bus stops there will be no more drug dealing ever??
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
jchanning said:
they've been there in the 16 months i've lived here.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
gaijingirl said:
Once they've removed all the bus stops, they'll have to remove the shopping arcade and Woolworths. Then the rest of the High St, Electric Avenue and Coldharbour Lane. Then they'll have to knock down Atlantic Road and the railway lines, the Rec centre, the Ritzy and the Town Hall.
Eventually, Stockwell, Clapham, Loughborough Junction, Herne Hill and Streatham will all have to be leveled to the ground.
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I've just watched three charming youths (13yr old-ish) setting their dog on girls. One had to sit on top of a car to avoid the dog, while another fell to the floor while running away screaming.
The twats laughed at her misfortune.
They all appear to know each other which was rather odd.
The twats laughed at her misfortune.
They all appear to know each other which was rather odd.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
teuchter said:
Well wider pavements ARE needed in Brixton don't you think?
gaijingirl
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teuchter said:
I suppose they could just provide an official shelter for the dealers?
oh hang oh... that`d be dangerously like a cannabis cafe?
oh well.. best stick to levelling South London instead...
The bus stops won't be coming back, trust me. Didn't think it would happen this quickly but they won't be coming back. Shock for the dealers is that they are no wide open to the CCTV down at McDonalds. Probably will now move up to the carousel of phoneboxes which we have discussed elsewhere. You'll get wider pavements as well.
I doubt it's that much of a 'shock' to the dealers - I've literally seen them play football round a selection of officers and community support coppers on KFC corner on more than a few occasions, so I doubt the greater visibility to CCTV will be that much discouragement to all but the most timid.
It's more the people catching the bus that I feel sorry for. From having a couple of stops to shelter in, complete with 'service information' updates, they're now forced to cram themselves into the heaving doorway of Woolies when it rains, along with the displaced dealers. Thanks a flaming bunch Lambeth Council and the Police - nice forward thinking there in 'designing out' crime.
It's not rocket science for the police, nor does it take an expensive CCTV system and a razed urban landscape. If the will and bollocks were there they could try and arrest five or six lurkers by KFC, stick their hands in the bins and bash the telephone booths to recover some stashes - if a slacker like me can often see a pattern developing when waiting for one whole bus, then it shouldn't take an elaborate BB system to spot from afar and gather information.
Of course, that's not easy to take down a number of determined dealers, nor would a peaceful situation occur as result of such confrontation. But it's a bit grating to see this meagre, inconvenient removal of some of the few public comforts Brixton has wrapped us a some form of positive crime-reducing step. Leave the bus stops along and stop concentrating resources on easy arrests of silly but harmless drugs tourists down side streets - how's about you grow some bollocks and offer something else to the area, like some late night public toilets to help stop the flow of urine by Windrush Sq...
It's more the people catching the bus that I feel sorry for. From having a couple of stops to shelter in, complete with 'service information' updates, they're now forced to cram themselves into the heaving doorway of Woolies when it rains, along with the displaced dealers. Thanks a flaming bunch Lambeth Council and the Police - nice forward thinking there in 'designing out' crime.
It's not rocket science for the police, nor does it take an expensive CCTV system and a razed urban landscape. If the will and bollocks were there they could try and arrest five or six lurkers by KFC, stick their hands in the bins and bash the telephone booths to recover some stashes - if a slacker like me can often see a pattern developing when waiting for one whole bus, then it shouldn't take an elaborate BB system to spot from afar and gather information.
Of course, that's not easy to take down a number of determined dealers, nor would a peaceful situation occur as result of such confrontation. But it's a bit grating to see this meagre, inconvenient removal of some of the few public comforts Brixton has wrapped us a some form of positive crime-reducing step. Leave the bus stops along and stop concentrating resources on easy arrests of silly but harmless drugs tourists down side streets - how's about you grow some bollocks and offer something else to the area, like some late night public toilets to help stop the flow of urine by Windrush Sq...
gaijingirl
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tarannau said:
Actually I agree with your post above.. but tbh.. it won`t make much difference not having the bus stop.. when not on my bike that`s my stop and 9 times out of 10 all the seating is taken up by the dealers anyway - so you can`t sit down
~ it`s always the same guys, anyone using that bus stop regularly would recongise them. The 432 for some reason doesn`t appear on the service updates anyway and the sevice update thing, which I`ve found helpful elsewhere (on that particular bus stop) rarely seems to work anyhow. It`s always been a case of Woolies doorway if it`s raining anyway!
That whole area is a mess!tarannau said:
Really ironic that you have used that term, all boroughs have a crime prevention design officer (or similar title) working for the police departments.
The politicians have favoured the removal of the shelters though. Either way bus passengers lose.
When the shelter had it's back to the footway, perfect late night dealing territory blocked off from CCTV which the bus passengers had to huddle under standing next to some one aspiring to be a mini "Montana". Switch the shelter around, the passengers no longer had the company of the dealers but they would deal behind the shelter. Still not ideal.
By getting rid of the shelter as you say everyone is forced into Brixton Arcade. Or otherwise you end up standing in the rain (going on this years "summer").
Elsewhere you can hide under the awning of Iceland and on the northbound side of the road, no changes as there are no shelters.
As for toilets at Windrush? - good luck, who pays for the maintenance. Welcome to the world of the local authority.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
flash said:
Why can't they just move the CCTV to a spot where they CAN see them or is that too simple?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
One with bars on the windows sounds like a good idea.gaijingirl said:
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