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I used to live in an area with Hydes pubs in Manchester. Most people would drink Hydes mild rather than the bitter.

Hyde's bitter was pretty vile..the only other two beverages in Greater Manchester that were more shit than that were Greenall Whitey bitter and Hyde's own lager.
Hyde's had some nice pubs though so i drank mild too.
 
Hyde's bitter was pretty vile..the only other two beverages in Greater Manchester that were more shit than that were Greenall Whitey bitter and Hyde's own lager.
Hyde's had some nice pubs though so i drank mild too.
We didn't like JW Lees too much either back in the 70s, though it seems to have improved enough now for Wetherspoons at least.
 
We didn't like JW Lees too much either back in the 70s, though it seems to have improved enough now for Wetherspoons at least.

Many of those mid-sized Lancs breweries seem to have been rejuvenated a bit cos they have the capacity to brew specialty ales in bulk much easier than a start-up. We might be getting a Theakston's IPA in the Windmill for example (they're distributed by and probably owned by Heineken these days).
 
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Traditionally that's champagne and Guinness, but yeah.
thanks ! I became aware of the controversy when i moved way from the north where the idea of buying half a pint of champagne to put in your Guinness would have been laughed out of town....to me and pals a black velvet was always sweet cider (woodpecker) and Guinness. I am now toying with the idea of formulating the velvet dragon, half fizzy wine, half dragon stout with an infusion of exotic spice....an iron fist in a velvet glove.... which I shall copyright and open a shack in pop Brixton where it will retail at £20 a pint or £100 for a 3 litre jug of vibrancy
 
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thanks ! I became aware of the controversy when i moved way from the north where the idea of buying half a pint of champagne to put in your Guinness would have been laughed out of town....to me and pals a black velvet was always sweet cider (woodpecker) and Guinness. I am now toying with the idea of formulating the velvet dragon, half fizzy wine, half dragon stout, an iron fist in a velvet glove which I shall copyright and open a shack in pop Brixton where it will retail at £20 a pint or £100 for a 3 litre jug of vibrancy

A mate used to make his own version with Gaymer's Old English, and Nigerian Guinness. The consensus was that a couple of pints of it was like being hit with a sock filled with wet sand. :cool:
 
Doing a full cask next month.


Ta for that - i just went down today bought a keg 5l and 16 beers...I think any brewery is ok to mention.
I had my first (quick) visit to Canopy on Saturday (are we allowed Herne Hill boozers?). Unprepossessing location under the arches off Norwood Rd (behind Ollies) past the car mechanics and under the... err... canopy.

Just had time for a couple of halves - the small beer and the kolsch. Both lovely (but then beer drank in stolen time away from the kids always is). Left with a keg of the kolsch which wasn't cheap (£28 for 5l) but was very nice (except I fucked up opening it when pissed on Sunday).

Impressive range of ales and a nice atmosphere.

It's good, I like the way they have other people's stuff too -it's also pretty cheap compared to other craft places eg fourpure all day ipa for 4 quid a pint iirc which isn't much more expensive than it is in a bottle shop (2.5 gbp for a 330ml can)

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Scored a bottle of this at Canopy last night. Lovely stuff [emoji1360]
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Popped into the Beehive tonight - seeking refuge after a £4.45 pint of Summer Lightning @ the Railway, Clapham North (which was excellent apart from the price).

Wetherspoons had a surprising guest premium ale - Phoenix Brewery (Heywood Lancs) Wobbly Bob 6% abv @ £2.65
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Can'r say the Beehive was exactly vibrant though. Probably vibrant enough to sell a cask of Wobbly Bob in 1 or 2 days though.
 
Thinking of going to the bullfinch on Thursday, also the one nearby, Canopy. Are they any good for sitting in for a drink as well as sampling their beer? I'm particularly excited by the thought of the grapefruit pale ale because we both love Elvis Juice and Highwire.
 
I used to live in an area with Hydes pubs in Manchester. Most people would drink Hydes mild rather than the bitter.

About 5 years ago Imperial College Union used to have Green King mild as a low cost option like Ruddles Bitter is in Wetherspoons - rock bottom price and low strength (but actually quite nice to drink). Unfortunately more recently the union bar had a revamp with real ales now served on gas, and an offering of Belhaven keg beers as well (Bellhaven is owned by Greene King). A bit like the Albert?

The Beehive have occasionally had milds on offer at the so-called beer festivals. But I haven't kept tabs on this recently.

Bitter outsells mild in Hydes pubs by miles.its not a bad pint but it certainly isn't the best in Manhchester either. Hydes have their own microbrewery now and some their product is very good.most of their houses have at least one guest beer as well if not several.
 
Bitter outsells mild in Hydes pubs by miles.its not a bad pint but it certainly isn't the best in Manhchester either. Hydes have their own microbrewery now and some their product is very good.most of their houses have at least one guest beer as well if not several.
You may be right now - but Hydes used to have a big brewery in Moss Lane East (only closed in 2012), and Hydes mild was much more popular than their bitter when I lived in Rusholme in the 1970s.
 
You may be right now - but Hydes used to have a big brewery in Moss Lane East (only closed in 2012), and Hydes mild was much more popular than their bitter when I lived in Rusholme in the 1970s.
Be about right in the 70s, mild was a lot more popular then.
 
wheelie_bin They've both got space and seating - Canopy probably gets a bit more sunshine!
Woohoo, I'll report back on the beers then.

Brixton Brewery Reliance Pale Ale is my current summer favourite. It flies out of the Ovalhouse café (and not all via me)
I like it too. For drinking local productions I slightly prefer London Beer Lab's Coldharbour Hell Yeah, but it's a close call.
 
Sorry for the delay, but a report back on the breweries.

Bullfinch (herne hill) - awesome, they've made a lot of effort to do it up nicer than most pubs and had one decent toilet. 12 beers on draft, tasters £4.50 for 3*1/3 pints. We had 9 really good ones, Wolf IPA being a massively standout favourite for both of us.
Canopy - ok layout and has toilets, but very much tables at a brewery. Not too impressed with the beer selection this time, they had 1/3 pint taster sets at similar price.
Brixton - lovely beers of Atlantic APA and Reliance on draft, the Electric IPA was much tastier than in a bottle. Unfortunately we got there near 8pm closing, so only those 3 standard beers we've had anywhere round Brixton before. Very small, mostly drinking standing in the street outside. Ok if you're passing, but not worth having as a trip in itself.
Beer Hive - very disappointed as it was closed when Google said it was open. Or we couldn't find it round those dirty Loughborough arches (we patrolled twice, so I really think it was closed and they didn't answer the mobile phone number on Google).

In summary - Bullfinch bullfinch bullfinch. It's seriously worth the brief stroll there, we're definitely going to go again and again. From the florence, take the nearest path across brockwell park and it's immediately ahead of you after the gate on the left. If you've ever been to a brewery and found a better one for drinking in, I'd love to hear which one.

(We like hoppy APAs and IPAs in general, so others might like the Canopy selection of more golden ale types more than we did).
 
One other note in case there are any budding brewers here, The Florence are looking to take on a brewer to run their basement brewery at the pub (their brewer has left recently). May as well get the word out, bound to be somebody who'd like it and it's a nice little pub so I want an excuse to visit.
 
While I'm doing brewery reports, we also tried a few weeks ago the craft beer mile in Bermondsey, so I may as well trip report:

BrewByNumbers - 5 beers on draft, the Centennial and White IPA were both excellent. Quite a few benches, no visible toilets. Long walk from Tower Bridge, my other half refused to go to Southwark brewery nearby for no good reason and we missed the one just behind its arch due to going to Kernel (we like their beers very much).
Kernel - the bastards were closed for a few weeks, unsure why as heard varying explanations.
Partizan - we couldn't find it. Coupled with kernel being closed, this meant the walk from Brew to Fourpure was a hefty and wet 20-25min.
Fourpure - 10 beers on draft. Loved the shapeshifter, the APA and planet simcoe. Portaloo only and in the middle of a proper industrial estate so lots of tables but not much atmosphere, great upside of 6 cans for £10 to take away and near the tube to get home.

Summary - make fourpure a separate trip to the brewbynumbers (go to Southwark and the one behind brewbynumbers along with it if you want a trip round a few) and check with other breweries that they're actually open to avoid disappointment.
 
Bullfinch (herne hill) - awesome, they've made a lot of effort to do it up nicer than most pubs and had one decent toilet. 12 beers on draft, tasters £4.50 for 3*1/3 pints. We had 9 really good ones, Wolf IPA being a massively standout favourite for both of us.
I've heard form other sources that Bullfinch is very good. Somewhere I need to visit. Maybe it might be an idea for a Urban meet-up?
 
This was on tonight at Beehive. £2.35 (Monday price) normally £2.65 Seemed very palatable to me.
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Maybe topical with this Madness organised Clapham Common event last weekend - both Acre Lane and Stockwell Lidl are currently stocking Madness Night Boat porter - brewed by Portobello Brewery.

Not sure how to review this one. The taste is pretty much what you would expect from a porter old-style London beer. Not hopped up like a "craft" beer. I am intrigued as to why Lidl took this, but not the other two Madness branded Portobello beers (particularly "Gladness" Craft Lager- which might be expected to be more popular with current fashions). Maybe its about price - or maybe they will be along soon. Price of the porter - £1.39/500ml bottle.
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This modest bottled offering is still on sale at Lidl Acre Lane, left over from Burns Night perhaps.
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(Belheather Scotch Whisky Beer 6.5% abv 330ml £1.29)

Tried it just to see. Ratebeer.com say it is manufactured at the C & C Tennents Wellpark factory in Glasgow - which also makes Innis & Gunn.

My favourite Ratebeer review - from a Manchester resident - is this:
"Tramp juice with a whiff of whiskey clear amber small head bottle from lidl."
 
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