i wavered about then. it rapidly gets you back in though and doesn't slow down.
Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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It's not the pace that I'm finding problematic
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
because Jessie is just awesome and you have to keep watching for when......no, no,I've said too much already.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Well that's a wafer-thin beef.
It's true what you're saying about a lot of the characters - at that point in the story-line. If you're looking for good, quality stuff I would urge you to stick with it for a while, if it's still not doing anything for you by the end of the series just let it go.
You think that finding pretty much every character with any screen time almost entirely unsympathetic (and consequently uninteresting) is a wafer-thin beef?
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
shutupshutupSHUTUP!
Thread contains spoilers. It says so in the title
I'm not that arsed about surprises, or I'd've bumped another one
But ty for protecting my innocence
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
It was a play on 'waver. main beef'You think that finding pretty much every character with any screen time almost entirely unsympathetic (and consequently uninteresting) is a wafer-thin beef?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Everyone in The Sopranos is a cunt, yet it is still very watchable.
I did have sympathy for Walt the first time I watched BB, but this time around I just hate him, esp how he is with his family.
I 'like' the characters in BB more than in Sopranos for some reason. They all make very questionable decisions but you can see why they make them, but there is one big decision that I never got and that is Walt'd first decision, to break bad in the first place. It doesn't get in the way of my enjoyment though.
I did have sympathy for Walt the first time I watched BB, but this time around I just hate him, esp how he is with his family.
I 'like' the characters in BB more than in Sopranos for some reason. They all make very questionable decisions but you can see why they make them, but there is one big decision that I never got and that is Walt'd first decision, to break bad in the first place. It doesn't get in the way of my enjoyment though.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Still don't get the Skylar hate. I have more sympathy for her than Jesse
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Yup, Just a mother protecting her cubs. Fucking Ted was her furious reaction to the changes in Walt....to challenge him, goad him into showing something.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I like Jesse though and Skyler, Walt turns into a cunt towards the end.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
towards the end?
He turns into a cunt as soon as he decides to break bad. His first act is to blackmail Jesse into helping him cook meth.
He turns into a cunt as soon as he decides to break bad. His first act is to blackmail Jesse into helping him cook meth.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Makes perfect sense to me, ace chemist needs money for his family, going to die shortly, brother in the DEA so he sees how much money they make, far more than he does at school, then happens to tag along on a raid where he knows one of the cooks so has a way in to the crime world.. why wouldn't you do it?
If you're talking about further along then it's just a series of steps fueled by an inferiority complex which creates the desire/enjoyment of power and a belief he is going to die anyway. By the time he isn't going to die his desire of the power and wealth he has drives him on, he's wanted to be worth more than Grey Matter and this is how he's going to do it.
e2a: I don't remember him blackmailing Jesse right at the start, I thought it was just a straight business arrangement.. not sure that changes anything of my analysis tbh, his feeling of need to provide for his family is enough of a factor for me, you learn about the grey matter past as you go along through the series and it's a massive driver to his actions.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It's funny. Every time Walt does something truly nasty, people are saying 'oh no! Walt! You've gone too far this time!' He went too far the first time!
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah but you can understand why he did it though, he wanted to do something "bad" and break the law because it was exciting. Now he's a proper hardened criminal
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No, I can't understand why it would have occurred to him in the first place.
Such a spontaneous decision to break bad in such a dramatic way. I guess we don't see enough of Walt before he makes the decision but it didn't convince me.
Such a spontaneous decision to break bad in such a dramatic way. I guess we don't see enough of Walt before he makes the decision but it didn't convince me.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
At some point I will get round to posting up my 'when did Walt really break bad?' Poll
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Telling Jesse to kill Gale I reckon. Hence Gale's book being the key to Walt's downfall.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
God no...that saved both their lives. The whole thing about Gale, from Gus' point of view, was to kill them, from the start.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Granted but that wasn't Gale's fault.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Gale the meth cook?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
But the show isn't really about cooking meth, it's about the lengths the characters go to to protect themselves from the consequences.
Also I'm not sure Gale was originally brought in to allow gus to kill Walt and Jesse. Gus only wanted to kill Walt after he ran over two of his goons, by which time Gus had already agreed to let Jesse replace Gale in the lab.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Gale was a chemist who'd been sponsored through (american version of university) by Gus, or something like that. He was a groomed cook. He wasn't stupid, either - he fitted very well into whatever shoes he was asked to wear - he knew that him learning Walt's technique meant death for Walt and Jesse.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Was he? I thought he'd got so far (phd kinda level) but then couldn't keep an academic place or somesuch - a disappointed chemist not wholly unlike Walt.
When he let Jesse's girlfriend die.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
well she threatened to keep blackmailing him
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