Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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Anonymous1
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Extravagance no?
I think they could pull off the appearance of struggling financially to buy the c/wash but anything above that would be
simply drawing unwanted attention to their situation.
That's how i saw it.
revol68
what, fucking what?
That's why her wanking on about it needing to be "watertight" was soo much bullshit, they'd already come up with the cover of Walt winning it gambling ffs, and if you can afford to buy a car wash in cash you can certainly afford a fancy car for your kid or a few bottles of champagne.
See she's a craic vacuum!
See she's a craic vacuum!
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
We still don't know half of Gus's back story. I expect links with Pinochet and Nazis to emerge but we can talk about that when you hurry the fuck up and finish series 4
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Finally watched the last episode
With that lily of the valley plant, is it definitely Walt that poisoned Brock? I cant see him having got close enough to him to do it. Could nobody else have got into his garden etc?
this thread is full of spoilers, no-one should be reading it who hasn't watched all 4 series yet.
and from what I remember from the episodes and discussion it's quite clear that it was walt.. but I want to watch it all again and see exactly when he could of done it. However, even if there is a plot hole there, I think it's clear that the writer wants you to know that walt did it.
I just don't remember well enough tbh.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I also don't understand why he wanted to do it though. Was it so that Jesse would be on-side in his plot to kill Gus? There didn't seem to be much of a motive but perhaps I'm missing something. (which i could well be).
Can't wait for Series 5. The last episode was fantastic!
TruXta
tired
Walt killed Gus so he can take his place as the big boss. He needs Jesse for that. He's the only one Walt trusts even a little bit.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I agree. I was asking about Brock though.
Walt seems to of had a complete obsession with Gus. I'm just wondering why he tried to poison the kid as there doesn't seem to have been much of a reason for it,except to turn Jesse against Gus.
Walt seems to of had a complete obsession with Gus. I'm just wondering why he tried to poison the kid as there doesn't seem to have been much of a reason for it,except to turn Jesse against Gus.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I'd need to watch it again tbh.
From what I remember, Walt needed to poison brock so that he could blame it on Gus in order to get Jesse back on his side.
I'm not sure it's just about trust for Walt, I think he needs Jesse in a different way, but perhaps that was just in the earlier series when he needed Jesse as his connection to the criminal world / person to do his dirty work.
must watch it all again. I was going to wait for s5 then watch all of it straight through.. but it won't hurt to see 1-4 again.
From what I remember, Walt needed to poison brock so that he could blame it on Gus in order to get Jesse back on his side.
I'm not sure it's just about trust for Walt, I think he needs Jesse in a different way, but perhaps that was just in the earlier series when he needed Jesse as his connection to the criminal world / person to do his dirty work.
must watch it all again. I was going to wait for s5 then watch all of it straight through.. but it won't hurt to see 1-4 again.
Superdupastupor
fun to funky
Finally watched the last episodeWith that lily of the valley plant, is it definitely Walt that poisoned Brock? I cant see him having got close enough to him to do it. Could nobody else have got into his garden etc?
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Saul dropped something of for Brock's mother (jesse's guilt money?) Walt gave something to Saul to give to Brock using Saul as a stooge iirc.
Saul dropped something of for Brock's mother (jesse's guilt money?) Walt gave something to Saul to give to Brock using Saul as a stooge iirc.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
So, predictions for season 5 anyone?
My dad said that because Season 4 was so good he didn't know whether or not to watch Season 5 as it might spoil it for him, because he didn't know how the writers could top that. I'm also a bit worried that the quality of the last season might deteriorate, which is why I'm glad that they're ending it after season 5 and not carrying it on (i really hope they don't change their minds on this).
I also hope that the writers don't choose to lessen the "family drama" part of BB based on pressure from the fans, because I also find that tense and interesting, Marie is a great character and I would like to see more of her. I hope we see more of Skyler during the next season and like Revol said, I hope that she is doing her own thing and not just trying to "protect" Walt. I could see her becoming as dark a character as Walt is (and to some extent she already is).
One thing I am slightly curious about is whether Walt Jr finds out, and how. I think they have basically got to have him finding out, as anything else would be implausible. I think we don't see enough of him during the show, which is a shame because he is such a good character (although maybe it's because there's not been a storyline involving him yet). Also, now that Gus is dead who is going to be the main villain?
My dad said that because Season 4 was so good he didn't know whether or not to watch Season 5 as it might spoil it for him, because he didn't know how the writers could top that. I'm also a bit worried that the quality of the last season might deteriorate, which is why I'm glad that they're ending it after season 5 and not carrying it on (i really hope they don't change their minds on this).
I also hope that the writers don't choose to lessen the "family drama" part of BB based on pressure from the fans, because I also find that tense and interesting, Marie is a great character and I would like to see more of her. I hope we see more of Skyler during the next season and like Revol said, I hope that she is doing her own thing and not just trying to "protect" Walt. I could see her becoming as dark a character as Walt is (and to some extent she already is).
One thing I am slightly curious about is whether Walt Jr finds out, and how. I think they have basically got to have him finding out, as anything else would be implausible. I think we don't see enough of him during the show, which is a shame because he is such a good character (although maybe it's because there's not been a storyline involving him yet). Also, now that Gus is dead who is going to be the main villain?
Superdupastupor
fun to funky
The Germans are going to show up- respectable international front company that runs weapons/drugs worldwide
the cartel to show up in the power vaccum in ABQ, maybe that old hoary tale that the C.I.A run the operation to get drugs into America
redemption of some type for Jesse, he needs some peace.
Showdown between Hank and Walt.
Something really horrible to happen to Walts family in Greek tradgedy tradition
the cartel to show up in the power vaccum in ABQ, maybe that old hoary tale that the C.I.A run the operation to get drugs into America
redemption of some type for Jesse, he needs some peace.
Showdown between Hank and Walt.
Something really horrible to happen to Walts family in Greek tradgedy tradition
Gmart
Well-Known Member
He should have paid the taxman - he had a way out which saved both himself and Skyler, and yet his obssession with getting back into business (as well as what others thought of him) meant that he screwed both her and others - good way to die though!
Superdupastupor
fun to funky
Oh yeah, Walts cancer will comeback, he won't get treatment maybe cos all his family are dead.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
Music to my ears
He was a little naive - he thought he could just get back on the gravy train, and seemed not to care for Skyler at all (sadly, considering their relationship).
Gmart
Well-Known Member
You mean doing nothing when she was choking on her own vomit? I am not sure that will come out - probably wouldn't in real life, but maybe on this show. It was only a split moment's decision, he hesitated because he could see that she was dragging him into Heroin - but he was happy... I am not excusing his decision, I think he is probably plagued by it himself. Jesse has great potential though - I liked him with the woman with the child (I forget her name) - they seemed good for each other! If he can move on, then maybe he could be happy?
Gmart
Well-Known Member
I think Jesse has really grown as a person during this series - he has fallen in love, he has developed skills and he has a house, which will help with the future. He would be sensible to get out while he's up, but I fear that the next season might not be so good without him.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
Maybe the new series would be about them all getting out and getting normal jobs - Walt goes back to teaching, and Hank gives up finding the elusive 'Heisenberg'.
That would be a twist
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