Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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Scaggs
following seagulls
Series 2 is the only one I don't have. Downloading it now so we can start watching from the beginning again.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Mrs S is hooked, she hadn't seen it before, I think she's watched two series in 5 days and all her friends are getting it for xmas.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Ooops!
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I think with Walt poisoning the kid the justification would be on one of the running themes of the series, which is that Walt will do just about anything to protect his family. He would have known that the kid was unlikely to die from that poison (I don't know if that's actually true, I'm just assuming it is).
Walt has always been pretty ruthless, from blowing up Tuco in S1 to letting Jessie's girlfriend die, but as the series has gone on it's become easier for him to do as he becomes hardened to it.
I should go back and re-watch them but iirc he was very nervous when going to blow up Tuco, much less so when he tried to poison him with ricin in a later episode.
At the start he wanted to make sure his family was provided for - as someone said he's got/had an inferiority complex about being a high school teacher and not earning much, when clearly he is a genius chemist.. he'd do whatever was needed to provide for his family, in part because he knew he was going to die soon anyway, so what did it matter.
As the series has gone on, and the cancer death issue has gone away, it's been more about him bouncing away from the inferiority/cuckold thing that someone else mentioned, and having the chance to be the big man, provide lots of material wealth for his family, prove that he is a better chemist than the people he used to work with at Grey Matter (?), that he is smarter than Hank/DEA ..
It's all a bit stretched, but not the point of idiocy imo.
Walt has always been pretty ruthless, from blowing up Tuco in S1 to letting Jessie's girlfriend die, but as the series has gone on it's become easier for him to do as he becomes hardened to it.
I should go back and re-watch them but iirc he was very nervous when going to blow up Tuco, much less so when he tried to poison him with ricin in a later episode.
At the start he wanted to make sure his family was provided for - as someone said he's got/had an inferiority complex about being a high school teacher and not earning much, when clearly he is a genius chemist.. he'd do whatever was needed to provide for his family, in part because he knew he was going to die soon anyway, so what did it matter.
As the series has gone on, and the cancer death issue has gone away, it's been more about him bouncing away from the inferiority/cuckold thing that someone else mentioned, and having the chance to be the big man, provide lots of material wealth for his family, prove that he is a better chemist than the people he used to work with at Grey Matter (?), that he is smarter than Hank/DEA ..
It's all a bit stretched, but not the point of idiocy imo.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
It's fiction, it's allowed some creative license.
What they've done so well is keep Walt sympathetic. Like the scene in this series with Walt Jr, after his beating from Jessie, when he breaks down and realises he may seen the last of Jessie.
What they've done so well is keep Walt sympathetic. Like the scene in this series with Walt Jr, after his beating from Jessie, when he breaks down and realises he may seen the last of Jessie.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Very (remember him in Starship Troopers?
). I think he'll be the one who knocks (on Walt's door to arrest him at some point). He's got to put everything together at some point....
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Walt Jr is becoming a weak character just cos the actor now looks ten years older than his part. The timeline of BB is a year (??) yet he's been doing that role for five years and has aged considerably.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Always a problems with 'Walts' in a long running series
I was just watching a clip of Gus leaving the hospital room and the penny dropped as to why the episode was called Face Off.
revol68
what, fucking what?
that's the problem though innit,
by having her as the stereotype mummsy character she will come across boring and naggy, getting in the way of the plot development with her concerns etc
the writers need to give her a stronger personality and some more interesting plots, cos I just find myself bored when she comes on screen.
spacemonkey
I Love Noodles
For a moment there I thought Gus was a terminator.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Midway though 4th series it looked like she was going to be really strong: making Walt buy the car wash, that line of "I'm the person who protects this family from the man who protects this family" but then she went and fucked it all up by giving Ted most of the money.
Her libido is still intact and will be back in series 5 no doubt.
ilovebush&blair
Well-Known Member
i dont get how she gave him most of the money, she hardly gave him any.
grit
an ugly force for good
Yeah that bothered me too, walk says something like he makes 250,000 a week? So the money to ted would have only been about 3 weeks worth of money. Maybe its because the rest was not hard cash, it was tied up in the purchase of the car wash.
revol68
what, fucking what?
it's funny I thought she became interesting when she had to give the money to Ted to avoid being investigated, it gave her an angle, made her a full person who makes mistakes and also "breaks bad". The whole pure matriarch role was so restrictive, one dimensional and ultimately I think reactionary.
ilovebush&blair
Well-Known Member
how much did she give him? it wasnt as much as $750,000 was it
grit
an ugly force for good
Yeah so 3 weeks of walt's earnings if I'm correct.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Plus the cost of buying the car wash, laundering money into it, Saul's various fees (including the A Team) and the Deluxe package he bought to make the family disappear
Iguana
Well-Known Member
Walt had already paid for his treatment and Hank's treatment which could have easily run toward half a million. He'd probably paid off his mortgage, he'd bought the second house and paid way over the odds for the furniture. He paid for Jr's car and a large amount in fines for torching it. They paid nearly a million for the car wash, including legal costs and a fee to fake the environmental report. They have been paying taxes on nearly all his earnings as they are claiming it's gambling winnings, quite a bit of the money was laundered through the car wash and would be sitting in a bank account looking legit. And Saul gets a cut.
Also the whole show has only taken part over the course of less than a year. Walt's only been working directly for Gus for a few months. He's "only" made $2-2.5million since he started cooking.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
He couldn't get the deluxe package though, that's what the money given to Ted was for.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Amazing how much happens in that pilot!
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Yep. It certainly hooked me in. I was pretty amazed when I watched it again.
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