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Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

The last episode was fantastic, really intense!

Just one thing puzzling me though, why did Gus not get in the car that was loaded with the bomb?
 
The car in the car park was the one Gus left, in last weeks episode.

the explosives where home made by walt and the ones he stuck to the car and took off.

Yeah that's probably correct, though i think all we saw was the air freshener not the exterior of the car (as disappearer says the episode is probably worth another viewing)

The main thread in the entire series is family. Walt has one. The Cartel was one. Jesse has one now. Could it be Gus's family come out of the woodwork?

His new heavies looked, ahem, a little Aryan:hmm:

There's still so much background to come out on Gus and his Chilean/German connections.
 
He realised it was possibly a trap, because somebody poisoned the kid, also it was Jessie who summoned him to the hospital so he wasn't able to be his usual cautious self.

My entire internet went down yesterday, of all days! Had to connect my computer a local FON wifi which gave me 50kbits download speed. Gah, first world problems..
 
Yeah that's probably correct, though i think all we saw was the air freshener not the exterior of the car (as disappearer says the episode is probably worth another viewing)

The main thread in the entire series is family. Walt has one. The Cartel was one. Jesse has one now. Could it be Gus's family come out of the woodwork?

His new heavies looked, ahem, a little Aryan:hmm:

There's still so much background to come out on Gus and his Chilean/German connections.

Walt saying to Skylar 'we are safe' might be a little presumptious :) If the cartel were afraid of Gus's Chilean connections Walt might not be long for this world... What was the German connection, I missed that?
 
I'm not following people here saying Walt poisoned the kid? What are you lot using to come to that conclusion?
 
Jesse assumed that Gus, or one of his cronies, had somehow poisoned the kid with ricin from Jesse's cigarette. The hospital discovered that it wasn't ricin, but Lilly of the Valley berries. The last shot was a camera pan of a Lilly of the Valley plant in Walt's garden. It has certainly been strongly suggested that Walt poisoned him.

Walt had to regain Jesse's trust back from Gus, poisoning the kid and claiming that Gus had set it up was a very devious way of achieving that.
 
Jesse assumed that Gus, or one of his cronies, had somehow poisoned the kid with ricin from Jesse's cigarette. The hospital discovered that it wasn't ricin, but Lilly of the Valley berries. The last shot was a camera pan of a Lilly of the Valley plant in Walt's garden. It has certainly been strongly suggested that Walt poisoned him.

Walt had to regain Jesse's trust back from Gus, poisoning the kid and claiming that Gus had set it up was a very devious way of achieving that.

Ah I didnt cop that was Walt's garden :oops:

Wow, that just spun that whole episode even more, what a fucking show :D
 
Yeah that's probably correct, though i think all we saw was the air freshener not the exterior of the car (as disappearer says the episode is probably worth another viewing)

The main thread in the entire series is family. Walt has one. The Cartel was one. Jesse has one now. Could it be Gus's family come out of the woodwork?

His new heavies looked, ahem, a little Aryan:hmm:

There's still so much background to come out on Gus and his Chilean/German connections.

Thinkging about it, when Walt and Jessie where talking at the end, there was one shot from a lower level of the car park, this made me think someone was watching, it could have been mike in the car at the end.
 
Thinkging about it, when Walt and Jessie where talking at the end, there was one shot from a lower level of the car park, this made me think someone was watching, it could have been mike in the car at the end.

It did give the impression they were being watched, and Mike is the big unaccounted for thing...though Am I being right in thinking Mike was introduced through Saul initially? How did he become Gus's man?
 
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Walt saying to Skylar 'we are safe' might be a little presumptious :) If the cartel were afraid of Gus's Chilean connections Walt might not be long for this world... What was the German connection, I missed that?

Los Pollos Hermanos is a tiny subsidiary of a massive German conglomerate.
There have been hints that Gustavo left Chile after the Pinochet regime. I'm putting 2+2 together here but the guy has one shady fascist past.

By the way the ricin question and a lilly of the valley clue is all included in this interview with Vince Gilligan (full of big SPOILERS)
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-a...-creator-vince-gilligan-post-mortems-season-4
 
The last episode was fantastic, really intense!

Just one thing puzzling me though, why did Gus not get in the car that was loaded with the bomb?
They said on the Podcast that Jesse saying Brock had been poisoned is what triggered that reaction, Gus probably just figured out that Walt had made his move and was manipulating Jesse (again).
Also Walt going into the hospital with the bomb, I think that shows he doesnt care about who gets hurt anymore.

I dont think we've seen the last of the killer cig, hopefully that wont be what kills Walt in the end cause that would be shit imo but its got to come back at some point.

oh and...

ding ding ding BOOM... lol
 
Just watched the last episode. If Walt did poison the kid, well, I'm having trouble dealing with that in terms of his character as it just doesn't fit!

But maybe the final series will be about how being involved in the drugs world brutalised Walt so much he'll now become the head the drug cartel... And Jessie has to kill him or something. I really hope it's not that predictable, I'm sure it won't be.

I'm still a bit shocked that he might have actually done it - but evidence seems to point that way. But it just doesn't add up.
 
Walt's intelligience has been constantly undervalued, he outsmarted Gus overall. Is there some link between Ricin poisoning and his flower stunt? Walt knew the likely outcome imo, risky shit though!
 
I'm still a bit shocked that he might have actually done it - but evidence seems to point that way. But it just doesn't add up.

He killed Jesse's girlfriend in series 2. Carefully tipping her onto her back and watching as she puked herself to death.

He'd broken bad long ago.

There's still so much of his back story we have to find out.... the guy just wasn't happy being a cuckolded low income worker.
 
He killed Jesse's girlfriend in series 2. Carefully tipping her onto her back and watching as she puked herself to death.

He'd broken bad long ago.

There's still so much of his back story we have to find out.... the guy just wasn't happy being a cuckolded low income worker.

All this analysis of the show makes me want to start back at season 1 again, which is the sign of something truly great.
 
He killed Jesse's girlfriend in series 2. Carefully tipping her onto her back and watching as she puked herself to death.

He'd broken bad long ago.

There's still so much of his back story we have to find out.... the guy just wasn't happy being a cuckolded low income worker.

I forgot about that... Yeah, thinking about it, Walt definetely had the motivation to do it. I just never thought he'd go so far, but he was trying to save his family. On the cold light of day, he's actually the bad guy! (if the world was black and white that is).

But so much could have gone wrong with his plan I'm still finding this particular bit of writing a bit far fetched.
 
Wow that was a great episode. It felt like it could have been the happy ending.

(I know there is another series though so that's not likely :eek: )

When Gus came out of that door, dead, it was so confusing cos I couldn't quite tell, so I looked closer and closer and then, UGH!
 
I forgot about that... Yeah, thinking about it, Walt definetely had the motivation to do it. I just never thought he'd go so far, but he was trying to save his family. On the cold light of day, he's actually the bad guy! (if the world was black and white that is).

But so much could have gone wrong with his plan I'm still finding this particular bit of writing a bit far fetched.

There's always been a certain far-fetched quality to Breaking Bad. The father of Jane meeting Walt in a bar just after or before he lets Jane die. The plane crash, all of Walt and Jessie's (and Hank for that matter) near misses... most of Walt's plans go wrong, this time it went better than expected. He's becoming more like Gus so less mistakes...

He's only just the 'bad guy'? What about when he helped Jane die which then directly caused a plane crash killing hundreds? or the fact that he makes millions of dollars worth of meth, his overriding arrogance which keeps making situations worse, etc... I don't think the point is to root for him so much as be shocked/appalled by how far he's fallen/falling
 
yeah, definetely appalled by some of the things he has done, and also very impressed by some of the others.

I never said he was 'just' the bad guy though... That's what I like about Breaking Bad, even Gus had redeeming features and was very likeable.
 
He killed Jesse's girlfriend in series 2. Carefully tipping her onto her back and watching as she puked herself to death.

He'd broken bad long ago.

There's still so much of his back story we have to find out.... the guy just wasn't happy being a cuckolded low income worker.
I don't remember Walt actually tipping her onto her back, I thought she turned over in her sleep and Walt didn't do anything to stop her choking. Not saying thats much less bad. I'll have to look back to make sure.
 
I don't remember Walt actually tipping her onto her back, I thought she turned over in her sleep and Walt didn't do anything to stop her choking. Not saying thats much less bad. I'll have to look back to make sure.

yeah, that's it, I think he killed her by omission. Whereas poisoning a kid is a lot more 'active'!
 
I don't remember Walt actually tipping her onto her back, I thought she turned over in her sleep and Walt didn't do anything to stop her choking. Not saying thats much less bad. I'll have to look back to make sure.

Been rewatching it with Mrs S. We just watched that episode and the next one on Monday night.
He shakes Jessie vigorously and she falls onto her back and starts choking. He watches her die.
My wife: 'oh fucking hell Walter, right that's it, I hate you'. Me: 'wait until next episode...'
 
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