Boycott Canada Goose clothes. The fur flogging scumbags

[dessiato]

Fuck me, Des

We don’t need to eat MEAT. We choose to.

We need to wear clothes. Why is it worse to farm mink for their pelts than to farm chicken for nuggets?

I've not said we need to eat meat, just that some people do eat meat. We do need to eat to stay alive, some people choose to eat meat to help them stay alive. We don't need to wear fur to stay alive, there are lots of alternatives, including cotton, wool, and skins from animals bred for meat. There is no need to breed animals just for the pelts, and wasting the meat and other by products of raising the animal.

 

[Spymaster]

I might try again later.

 

[Pickman's model]

I might try again later.

yeh, that's the spirit - if at first you don't succeed...

 

[dessiato]

Because we need to eat! We don't need to wear fur. So, I can accept producing food, because without it we die. We don't need to wear fur. I'm not saying eating meat is right or wrong, just that it is more acceptable to produce food than to produce a vanity product. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just that, if we must breed and raise animals for slaughter it's better that we use the whole carcass.

 

[Edie]

I’m not clear here dess, are you saying eating meat is right or wrong?

 

[dessiato]

I’m not clear here dess, are you saying eating meat is right or wrong?

Don't you start!

 

[Baronage-Phase]

There are parts of the world where fur is not worn for vanity....where fur is worn for warmth.

 

[dessiato]

There are parts of the world where fur is not worn for vanity....where fur is worn for warmth.

Yes. The Inuits, for example, kill seals for the meat, fat, blood etc. They also use that animal fur. They don't kill it just for the fur. In the past hunters did kill just for the fur. This, in my opinion, is wrong.

 

[Spymaster]

Because we need to eat!

But we don't need to eat MEAT. Therefore, producing meat to eat is just as unnecessary as producing fur to wear.

Do you agree with that?

 

[joustmaster]

I only eat leather and fur. I refuse to eat meat, its immoral.

 

[ginger_syn]

I thought i didn't need to eat meat gave it up, then someone walked past me carrying a plate of gammon with parsley sauce and I really really needed meat.

 

[dessiato]

But we don't need to eat MEAT. Therefore, producing meat to eat is just as unnecessary as producing fur to wear.

Do you agree with that?

I've not said we need to eat meat, just that people do eat meat.

 

[Calamity1971]

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But we don't need to eat MEAT.

Don't then. We also don't need to trap and cage animals purely for their fur. It's as fucking simple as that. I'd rather go for a pint with a coyote. Not singling you out spy

 

[A380]

Pah, we need to wear clothes too.

Why?

Have you seen most people naked. That’s why...

 

[Spymaster]

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Don't then. We also don't need to trap and cage animals purely for their fur.

This isn't the point though. Dess was suggesting that killing animals for their fur is morally worse than killing them for their meat.

I just want to know why.

 

[Athos]

This isn't the point though. Dess was suggesting that killing animals for their fur is morally worse than killing them for their meat.

I just want to know why.

Because it's morally worse to fail to do the right thing when it's relatively easier. For the vast majority of people in the UK, it takes no real sacrifice to forego fur, whereas it does in respect of meat. Going vegetarian is a profound change, requiring significant effort and compromise; choosing to buy a coat without a fur hood is not.

 

[Spymaster]

Because it's morally worse to fail to do the right thing when it's relatively easier. For the vast majority of people in the UK, it takes no real sacrifice to forego fur, whereas it does in respect of meat. Going vegetarian is a profound change, requiring significant effort and compromise; choosing to buy a coat without a fur hood is not.

Ta da! At last an answer of sorts.

When you say "the right thing" do you mean it's wrong to eat meat?

 

[joustmaster]

Because it's morally worse to fail to do the right thing when it's relatively easier. For the vast majority of people in the UK, it takes no real sacrifice to forego fur, whereas it does in respect of meat. Going vegetarian is a profound change, requiring significant effort and compromise; choosing to buy a coat without a fur hood is not.

nonsense

 

[Athos]

Ta da! At last an answer of sorts.

When you say "the right thing" do you mean it's wrong to eat meat?

I think it's hard to argue that causing pain and suffering to sentient beings and the attendant damage to the environment isn't less morally good than not doing so. As a meat eater I accept that I do what I want, rather than the right thing.

 

[Athos]

nonsense

Oh... ok.

 

[Calamity1971]

This isn't the point though. Dess was suggesting that killing animals for their fur is morally worse than killing them for their meat.

I just want to know why.

Dess's argument as I see it, is that it's wrong to kill just for the fur. Whereas leather is a by product of meat so all the animal is used.

 

[Spymaster]

Dess's argument as I see it, is that it's wrong to kill just for the fur.

Indeed. My question to him was; why, if he's happy to kill them for meat, is he unhappy about killing them for fur? Athos has chucked him a lifebelt though!

I'll try to puncture it a bit later.

 

[Calamity1971]

I'll try to puncture it a bit later.

Oh you are awful

 

[dessiato]

Indeed. My question to him was; why, if he's happy to kill them for meat, is he unhappy about killing them for fur? Athos has chucked him a lifebelt though!

I'll try to puncture it a bit later.

I didn't say I was happy to kill animals for meat or fur.

 

[Spymaster]

Are you not then?

 

[8ball]

Are you not then?

Kills them with sadness in his eyes.

 

[likesfish]

I think if your going to kill animals you should use as much of them as possible raising a mink just for its fur in a tiny cage seems a bit cruel

 

[Spymaster]

I think if your going to kill animals you should use as much of them as possible raising a mink just for its fur in a tiny cage seems a bit cruel

Is it more cruel than battery farming chickens for nuggets?

 

[joustmaster]

I think if your going to kill animals you should use as much of them as possible raising a mink just for its fur in a tiny cage seems a bit cruel

how much of its meat do I need to eat before its not cruel?

 

[8ball]

how much of its meat do I need to eat before its not cruel?

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