Boxee, Apple TV, Xbox Media Center, etc: your suggestions on media networking your house/flat?
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FunkyUK
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Done it. music, videos and pictures to TV Via NAS box & Xbox360. No PC needs to be on.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
sorry you've clearly not used ps3 media server it runs 36 gig MKV's over wifi fine. Sort your network out... really... bad workman and all that...Your last paragraph doesn't make any sense.
Yes you can get transcoding DLNA servers, an I tried to use it on a blu ray rip, it failed miserably and stuttered to hell. The user interface for films on both my xbox and blu ray is horrid, and I've still not come across a server or client that can make use of soft subs.
DLNA servers really aren't what they're cracked up to be.
No idea why your getting so wound up about all this
and you're confusing DNLA and transcoding...
DNLA is the connections protocol which is supposed to allow all manner of files to be seen by different devices.
the transcoder is a translation tool which allows the devices to see them in a native and supported format; which can then be read by a DNLA enabled machine.
I'm getting fed up because there is a lot of FUD being talked by people who clearly don't understand the tech and they are posturing around making dumb claims like it won't work on bluray with my pissy cheapo wifi connection rather than understanding it's not a limitation of the tech but the user...
just like people get pissed off at bad science poor scientists, I get pissed off at bad tech advice from poor techies...
it's perfectly reasonable to get hacked off with muppets advocating expensive solutions to cheap and easily fixable problems...
largely it's how pc world stay in existence, why BT has never invested in decent infrastructure, why technology companies in this country are held back and ultimately why the human race hasn't evolved technologically as fast as it could as it goes...
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Well of course I havent used PS3 media server, I dont have a PS3.
Im well aware of what transcoding is....
I have however used TVMobili with a sony blu ray player, and connect 360 with an xbox, neither of which support transcoding, and neither of which seem to be able to handle any MKV's over about 5 gigs without buffering every 20 mins or so.
Im not advocating an expensive solution to a cheapo problem, you just want someone to argue with an do a bit of virtual 'i know best' willy waving. DLNA is not the answer to the worlds problems, everyone's setup is different and im telling you it doesnt work on mine effectively.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Here's a handy utility for mac users - http://www.nef.wh.uni-dortmund.de/~mt/remux/
It'll strip out the audio and visual and put it into whatever format you want. Particularly good for turning an MKV into an MP4 without transcoding.
It'll strip out the audio and visual and put it into whatever format you want. Particularly good for turning an MKV into an MP4 without transcoding.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
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hiraethified
Philips 42PFL7603D. Released just three years ago.
Lovely TV too - and I got it at a really good price.
Lovely TV too - and I got it at a really good price.
Crispy
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Very useful, thanks
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
you got it 3 years ago but was it a model which came out 5 years ago which had been reduced or a modern set at the time? IE HD ready or full HD HD ready aren't usually although.My three year old flatscreen TV hasn't got DLNA
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hiraethified
As I said, it was released in 2008. 2nd May 2008, to be precise.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
have you updated the firmware?Philips 42PFL7603D. Released just three years ago.
Lovely TV too - and I got it at a really good price.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/...=en&scy=ua&mid=Link_Software&ctn=42PFL7603/60
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hiraethified
Yes. If you read the release notes there is no mention of DLNA being added.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
yeah look at the posted time...
can't believe at the time and for that money you'd buy it without... wire freshing huh
...
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hiraethified
The Philips TV picked up rave five star reviews at the time so it was an entirely sensible choice.can't believe at the time and for that money you'd buy it without... wire freshing huh
DLNA was only an emerging technology at the time with an uncertain future - it certainly wasn't being flagged as a major reason to select one TV over another.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
no ididn't I was just sayin you can upgrade the firmware which might have given you an advantage, in any case it was a public service announcment for you as you may not have known.
can you give me a dictionary definition of the word most and then use it within the sentences...
no mention of philips in that anywhere or saying it could or would apply to all modern HD tv'sme said:
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
That statement is complete bullshit though.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
so internet enablled tv isn't the inting they are using as a selling point for tvs at the moment no tv enabled apps are being created good to know... better explain quickly what these are then...
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/apps-built-for-your-tv
http://us.toshiba.com/tv/research-center/technology-guides/internet-tv-apps/
http://www.lg.com/uk/cinema3d/smarttv/index.jsp?s_kwcid=TC|9564|smart.TV||S|p|8583807668
fuck the complete bullshit has even got a bullshit wikipedia page...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_TV
shit are most of those smart tv's DNLA enablled, by fuck they bullshitting are too...
bullshit me...
you fucking arse hat...
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
you said in the last 5 years.
DLNA has not been commonplace in all tv's in the last 5 years like you stated it was. You're also referring to articles about internet enabled tv, I am specifically (and have been throughout) talking about DLNA.
Maybe you'd actually like to construct an argument and reference it properly instead of blowing steam out of your ears.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
look you clearly are new to the english language so lets break this down to why you're wrong.
I didn't say all, you keep doing that, I said most, that's a subsection of but not included all... it excludes some... and by doing so is in fact not saying all at all but is saying a fair percentile of the whole amount.
now you understand clearly the difference between most and all perhaps we can move on to your second error.
you were specifically quoting something which said clearly it was a comment about I-TV, you used this quote to illustrate the section of the comment you said was bullshit. If it wasn't the quote you were referring to as bullshit but some other aspect of that post then convention dictates the section you take issue with is the one which one ordinarily quotes in order to conjugate some response.
the convention is there in order that some coherent argument can be formed by way of communication of a point and counter point which is how debate is constructed.
If you are intent on randomly quote items from other peoples posts and then ascribing entirely different and non related points or response to other points not actually being made then don't be surprised if others call shenanigans on your comments and think you a foolish dick...
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Well let's break this down for you.
3 years ago I was an av technician and buyer for one of the largest educational av departments in the country, and I can guarantee that DLNA or itv was not commonplace in 'most' tv's then, nor was it when I started that job 5 years ago.
The only article you referred to that was dated was 2010. The other articles clearly aren't from the time period your talking about either.
Now I actually have to go and some work, so I can afford to buy the unnecessary pieces of tech you've got your knickers in a twist about.
You have actually been chatting shit and not even realised. Well done.
3 years ago I was an av technician and buyer for one of the largest educational av departments in the country, and I can guarantee that DLNA or itv was not commonplace in 'most' tv's then, nor was it when I started that job 5 years ago.
The only article you referred to that was dated was 2010. The other articles clearly aren't from the time period your talking about either.
Now I actually have to go and some work, so I can afford to buy the unnecessary pieces of tech you've got your knickers in a twist about.
You have actually been chatting shit and not even realised. Well done.
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hiraethified
When I was buying this TV - the most expensive TV I've ever bought, btw - I scoured the spec sheets, read loads of online reviews and user comments, I bought the magazines and did all the other spoddy comparison stuff I do when I'm buying expensive tech gear, and I can assure you that DNLA was barely mentioned at the time.
It was certainly not being listed as an important factor. If it was, I would have bought a TV with the ruddy thing built in.
It was certainly not being listed as an important factor. If it was, I would have bought a TV with the ruddy thing built in.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
no dig, really, just saying I woulda thought you woulda thought about it innit...
for me it was the following considerations, what will give the best bluray compatibility, screen def, blacks, future proofing at over 100hrz so it was potentially 3D capable and media playback but then before software media servers I'd already built a media server out of an old mac plusplus to run stuff through the older big screen tv I had via Svideo so maybe I was already prep'ed for DLNA by this experience.
but yeah the most expensive screen I've ever bought too... cost more than the sports car...
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
what I've been suprised at actually with modern screens i how little the mod community have not produced hacks for the firmware like they have with nearly all other tech...
Anybody else tried an Android powered "SmartTV" box, like this one from Maplin? (A re-badged Geniatech ATV1000).
You can get similar devices from eBay for <£100. Some of them have a sort of Wii-like controller.
I'm quite impressed by the beast. Updated the firmware to Android 2.3.4 & market , although you can install apk files from USB or transfer them wirelessly.
The supplied keyboard is horrendous, but with a proper wireless keyboard/trackpad like a Logitech K400 it becomes quite a nice device for browsing, watching videos and playing games (although not all games transfer well to big screen dimensions).
Mp3 playback via DLNA seems fine, although it seems to struggle with streaming video files. I'm using the "Emit" app. This could be an issue with my server hardware however (an old laptop). The SmartTV box itself seems quite snappy in operation. I'll have to do a little more tinkering, probably..
You can get similar devices from eBay for <£100. Some of them have a sort of Wii-like controller.
I'm quite impressed by the beast. Updated the firmware to Android 2.3.4 & market , although you can install apk files from USB or transfer them wirelessly.
The supplied keyboard is horrendous, but with a proper wireless keyboard/trackpad like a Logitech K400 it becomes quite a nice device for browsing, watching videos and playing games (although not all games transfer well to big screen dimensions).
Mp3 playback via DLNA seems fine, although it seems to struggle with streaming video files. I'm using the "Emit" app. This could be an issue with my server hardware however (an old laptop). The SmartTV box itself seems quite snappy in operation. I'll have to do a little more tinkering, probably..
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
The power Ethernet adaptors are getting quite cheap now. At35 quid a pair, if you don't need to move about the house freely (you can always plug in), its a more secure and faster alternative to wifi.
http://www.dabs.com/products/tp-lin...powerline-adapter-starter-kit-7KJ7.html?src=3
I was going to suggest that an original XBox off ebay for 20 quid is a great media centre then I remembered how much of a pain they are to get working and the h/w mods are no longer so soft modding only and thats well fiddly.
The Apple TV2 hacked to run XBMC is probably best solution overall (720p only) and tiny but still not a plug and go solution. Last time I looked though the add source was better than it use to be, which was editing a XML file.
http://www.dabs.com/products/tp-lin...powerline-adapter-starter-kit-7KJ7.html?src=3
I was going to suggest that an original XBox off ebay for 20 quid is a great media centre then I remembered how much of a pain they are to get working and the h/w mods are no longer so soft modding only and thats well fiddly.
The Apple TV2 hacked to run XBMC is probably best solution overall (720p only) and tiny but still not a plug and go solution. Last time I looked though the add source was better than it use to be, which was editing a XML file.
pesh
Well-Known Member
yeah, my one lasted about 48hrs before i knew it was going back. lovely tech badly implemented. and virtually impossible to customise in any worthwhile way...
i've been running Plex on an old mac laptop for a month or so now and i'm really happy with the way it works, and the interface is lovely. going to pick up a secondhand Mac Mini to use as a dedicated plex server at some point soon.
not the cheapest option i know but it will only work out to about 4 months of what i used to pay that evil Australian in monthly subs.
Crispy
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Well, I now have my Qnap TS-210 up and running. It's firmly in geek-only territory, but it works well. Serves everything, even multi-audio-track MKVs to my Samsung TV with no fuss. Got a couple of nice little remote control iOS apps for searching/queing up/downloading stuff and playback (again, all formats). No need for a PC in the loop, although I will be using one to tidy up downloads, rename files etc. - that's only intermittent. It's simple enough for sparrow to have the app on her phone, search and download a movie then watch it on the telly when it's ready in just a few taps.
It's not the all-singing interface of plex or some imaginary apple product, but it works and I like it
It's not the all-singing interface of plex or some imaginary apple product, but it works and I like it
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