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Birmingham New Street named as Britain’s worst railway station

That blog cites St Pancras as the best station in the country. It's pretty magnificent but somebody needs to sort the signage out because it's a fucking nightmare trying to find the right platforms for non-Eurostar trains.
"Nightmare"? It's like St. Pancras is like a maze or something, there's not many places you can go, and only three places non-Eurostar trains go from.

There are also far too many expensive food outlets and nowhere to buy a sandwich and a cup of coffee that wasn't made by a quote unquote artisan. You can buy a new handbag or some ornaments, but can you buy a paper or a packet fags? No, those are far too common for St Pancras.
Um, there're plenty of places to buy sandwiches, a coffee, or a newspaper: there's a WH Smith, two M&S, Pret A Manager, a Starbucks (I'm not sure if they do sandwiches) and a Costa for a start.
 
Oh, an re St. Pancras, I can't remember if it was here on on RailUK that someone was complaining about the draft by the Circle. Well when I was there recently they had the doors at that section closed as an "experiment" so the sign said. There is still the other open bit (so people can get out) though.
 
You know there is also a Foyle's at St. Pancras, which is always worth a browse when I'm waiting for my train.
 
Moor Street's a great little station, shame they moved the old steam train.

They had to, when the platform it was standing at was brought back into use. AFAIK it's been moved to Southall Railway Centre for restoration to working order.

Um, there're plenty of places to buy sandwiches, a coffee, or a newspaper: there's a WH Smith, two M&S, Pret A Manager, a Starbucks (I'm not sure if they do sandwiches) and a Costa for a start.

There's also the Betjeman Arms, which is the best station pub I know. :cool:
 
"Nightmare"? It's like St. Pancras is like a maze or something, there's not many places you can go, and only three places non-Eurostar trains go from.


Um, there're plenty of places to buy sandwiches, a coffee, or a newspaper: there's a WH Smith, two M&S, Pret A Manager, a Starbucks (I'm not sure if they do sandwiches) and a Costa for a start.
Always avoid buying any food or drink in Smiths at train stations as they have a ridiculous mark up compared to anywhere else. It always amazes me when I see people buying food there when I've popped in to get a magazine - I often tell them to go to M & S next door as it's a lot cheaper. :)
 
Always avoid buying any food or drink in Smiths at train stations as they have a ridiculous mark up compared to anywhere else. It always amazes me when I see people buying food there when I've popped in to get a magazine - I often tell them to go to M & S next door as it's a lot cheaper. :)

The only thing to buy from that place is a newspaper or the more recent railway magazine of your choice. Their marks up are astounding.....(M&S at St Pancras offer you free plastic glasses if you buy a bottle of wine - so civilised !) - and decent prices for all those things you need like BLT sandwiches to go with your screw top wine !
 
I quite like New Street, but then it reminds me of going there as a kid. Always felt there was something appropriately black country about all the platforms being dark, dirty and underground. Penn Station in New York is similar, but there you wait on the concourse, and don't get to go down to the platform until a few minutes before the train leaves.
 
The only thing to buy from that place is a newspaper or the more recent railway magazine of your choice. Their marks up are astounding.....(M&S at St Pancras offer you free plastic glasses if you buy a bottle of wine - so civilised !) - and decent prices for all those things you need like BLT sandwiches to go with your screw top wine !
I do like the M & S train station branches for that little touch. Very civilised, as you say.

"Marks & Spencer - getting people pissed on trains since 1884" :D
 
The M&S in the Circle at St. Pancras is MASSIVE, for a station shop. They even sell clothes!
 
The M&S in the Circle at St. Pancras is MASSIVE, for a station shop. They even sell clothes!
I've not seen one selling clothes in the stations I've been to across the country, so maybe that's just a one-off because it's the Eurostar station.

I remember there is a Simply Food branch downstairs in the shopping bit at St Pancras, but I think the shopping bit next door (I guess that's what you must be referring to) was still bring developed last time I was there.
 
I've not seen one selling clothes in the stations I've been to across the country, so maybe that's just a one-off because it's the Eurostar station.

I remember there is a Simply Food branch downstairs in the shopping bit at St Pancras, but I think the shopping bit next door (I guess that's what you must be referring to) was still bring developed last time I was there.
It's by the escalators leading to the Southeastern platforms (which is why I'm that way often). There's a WH Smith, a reasonable sized Boots, a Yo Sushi and various other outlets.
 
It's by the escalators leading to the Southeastern platforms (which is why I'm that way often). There's a WH Smith, a reasonable sized Boots, a Yo Sushi and various other outlets.
It's been a few years since I've been there, but I don't remember that. I was only getting a train to Leicester I think. But anyway, buying clothes at a train station is a bit odd for me - unless it's a walk of shame new shirt and undies. :D
 
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Derby station is just banal and dull, nothing much to hate about it really. They've redone a lot of it recently but it's still just banal and dull.
The worst thing about Derby rail station is that it's about a mile away from the city centre. And then after you've schlepped to the city centre, you wish you hadn't bothered.
 
The worst thing about Derby rail station is that it's about a mile away from the city centre. And then after you've schlepped to the city centre, you wish you hadn't bothered.

Only ever been there to change trains I think, or maybe walk from the bus station to the train. I've never seen the point of Derby as an actual place.
 
Better than that one on the Severn Valley where we kidnapped the morris men?

No, not better than that, I grant you! :D

It was good pre-Craft Beer Revolution, but now I'd have to nip up to Sheffield for that one there. The Euston Tap would be great if it had a departure board.

I've not been in the Betjeman for a while. Don't tell me it's gone all craft-beer and lost the real ale...? :(

As for Derby station, I went to Derby for an old friend's wedding last year. I don't remember noticing a nice-looking pub next to the station - just a strip joint across the road!
 
I've not been in the Betjeman for a while. Don't tell me it's gone all craft-beer and lost the real ale...? :(

As for Derby station, I went to Derby for an old friend's wedding last year. I don't remember noticing a nice-looking pub next to the station - just a strip joint across the road!

No, more that the Betjeman continues to serve <4% brownish beer. Kept well, but not worth the walk upstairs for...

You have to go a tiny bit down the road from Derby station for the really good pub, but then there's two in a row.
 
No, more that the Betjeman continues to serve <4% brownish beer. Kept well, but not worth the walk upstairs for...

You have to go a tiny bit down the road from Derby station for the really good pub, but then there's two in a row.

yes, sorry - the railway village is more or less opposite the station - the pub in question is a bit north of the station. but on the main road leading to the city centre.
 
And this is to the halfwits at Birmingham New Street station control.

When you do a PA telling passengers their delayed train is passing through a random local station and that it won't be long before it gets into New Street - try to remember that that lots of passengers aren't from the city. The random station might as well be near Penzance for all we know! Try to stick to the mainline stations, then we'll all have a chance of understanding what the hell you're talking about.

Oh, and on the same note, there's similarly no point in referring to the train pulling up at 'the far end of the platform' - we haven't the faintest idea which end you mean you numpty. Especially as the signage is shockingly shit at the best of times at platform level.

In summary, tailor your PA announcements to your audience. You do run a mainline interchange station after all, in case you haven't noticed. :rolleyes:
 
And this is to the halfwits at Birmingham New Street station control.

When you do a PA telling passengers their delayed train is passing through a random local station and that it won't be long before it gets into New Street - try to remember that that lots of passengers aren't from the city. The random station might as well be near Penzance for all we know! Try to stick to the mainline stations, then we'll all have a chance of understanding what the hell you're talking about.

Oh, and on the same note, there's similarly no point in referring to the train pulling up at 'the far end of the platform' - we haven't the faintest idea which end you mean you numpty. Especially as the signage is shockingly shit at the best of times at platform level.

In summary, tailor your PA announcements to your audience. You do run a mainline interchange station after all, in case you haven't noticed. :rolleyes:


I will pass it on - though working in that signal box is madness - lovely bunch of guys and gals though - very welcoming - the stress is unbelievable when it goes wrong as they are almost dealing with the the nations problems
 
Wakefield Kirkgate is the worst, as I've said on these boards before. It's undergoing redevelopment at the minute after Lord Adonis visited it and declared it the worst station in Britain. They've so far just knocked stuff down, so while it has less grim and random walls remaining, now it's just grim and empty. It's unstaffed and people are regularly attacked there, including rapes. Parts of the wall have fallen down onto parked cars.

It truly is grim in every sense of the word.

This is after redevelopment
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And as a reminder, here's pre-development

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This was only a few years ago. Maybe 2008? This station has trains going to London. Can you imagine doing the reverse journey as a noob to the country? :facepalm::D
 
I will pass it on - though working in that signal box is madness - lovely bunch of guys and gals though - very welcoming - the stress is unbelievable when it goes wrong as they are almost dealing with the the nations problems

Ta. And while you're at it tell them to stop replatforming my train at the last minute. :D

I could be here all night with gripes about iI, but I'll shut up now.:oops:
 
This was only a few years ago. Maybe 2008? This station has trains going to London. Can you imagine doing the reverse journey as a noob to the country? :facepalm::D

And Wakefield is such a popular tourist destination as well.

Although I thought all the long distance trains went to Wakefield Westgate. Maybe that's just the Glasgow - Penzance trains.
 
I quite like New Street, but then it reminds me of going there as a kid. Always felt there was something appropriately black country about all the platforms being dark, dirty and underground. Penn Station in New York is similar, but there you wait on the concourse, and don't get to go down to the platform until a few minutes before the train leaves.
Yeah, Penn Station is pretty grim eh, as is Madison Square Garden on top of it
 
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