Batman Begins

[Kid_Eternity]

Crap title I know; they should of named it after the graphic novel this looks influenced by, Batman: Year One. Just watched the very slight teaser trailer and apart from a couple of cringe worthy lines in it the look and feel of Batman Begins seems about right (right to any long time reader of the better comics that is)! I’m actually a little surprised because I figured this was going to be about as crap as the first Batman film but its looking quite cool so far.

Official website

 

[souljacker]

Crap title I know; they should of named it after the graphic novel this looks influenced by, Batman: Year One. Just watched the very slight teaser trailer and apart from a couple of cringe worthy lines in it the look and feel of Batman Begins seems about right (right to any long time reader of the better comics that is)! I’m actually a little surprised because I figured this was going to be about as crap as the first Batman film but its looking quite cool so far.

Official website

It certainly does look very stylish and star studded. Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and, is that Gary Oldman I see? I couldn't turn up the sound because I'm at work so what was all that climbing up a mountain nonsense about? I dont think I've ever read year one but I don't remember Batman's story including anything like that.

Fucking Shite title though.

 

[Termite Man]

I figured this was going to be about as crap as the first Batman film but its looking quite cool so far.

Do you mean the '60s batman film or the first Tim Burton Batman film ?

If this is based on year one it should be quite good . I expect it will get fucked up somehow though .

 

[Balbi]

Tim Burtons Batman was quality. The second one was ace too. After that, it fucked up.

 

[kyser_soze]

Isn't Christian Bale playing Batman in this one?

If so good, cos he's a decent brooding action here type (Equilibrium was great IMHO).

Who's directing this one?

 

[g force]

Nolan - he of Memento.

I rate Bale as a good actor...coudl be interesting. Very shit title though!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Tim Burtons Batman was quality. The second one was ace too. After that, it fucked up.

The first was shit but Burton got his act together for the second.

@souljacker, in Year One I think it makes reference to him going travelling, learning martial arts etc and "finding himself".

 

[Idaho]

It's the bloke who directed Pi - whatever his name is.

The climbing the mountain is coherant with Official Batman mythology. He goes to Tibet to become the greatest martial artist ever. The falling down the well as a boy is consistent too.

I bet they will fuck it up. Although they just have to get hold of Batman 404-407 as the story board, dialogue etc is already there.

 

[Balbi]

Aronofsky?

He's good. Very dark.

That'll do.

 

[Idaho]

Hmm G Force is saying Nolan. I am probably wrong about Aronofsky... let me check..

Oh.. change of personnel has led to the confusion:

02/03/03
Director Darren Aronofsky (Pi, Requiem for a Dream) has all-but-officially left his version (Batman: Year One) of the fifth Batman movie, leaving director Chris Nolan (Insomnia, Memento) to revive the franchise. (Comics2Film, Cinema Confidential)

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I think they could learn alot by reading the first thirty odd issues of Legend of the Dark Night and of course The Dark Night Returns (hell why not throw in the Killing Joke?!).

 

[Idaho]

Actually it sounds as if they have fucked this up again (groan)

Plot Spoilers

Oh they can't just do a simple job can they?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Hmm G Force is saying Nolan. I am probably wrong about Aronofsky... let me check..

Oh.. change of personnel has led to the confusion:

Oh yeah forgot that...oh dear this doesn't look good because his last film was Insomnia which was a big pile of shite.

 

[YojimboUK]

Nolan -- the man's a god if he can get some control of a project. Memento is one of the finest films of the last ten years.

Aronofsky's off doing The Fountainhead. Lordy help us.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Crap title I know; they should of named it after the graphic novel this looks influenced by, Batman: Year One. Just watched the very slight teaser trailer and apart from a couple of cringe worthy lines in it the look and feel of Batman Begins seems about right (right to any long time reader of the better comics that is)! I’m actually a little surprised because I figured this was going to be about as crap as the first Batman film but its looking quite cool so far.

Official website

What are you talking about!!!!! The first batman film, along with the other Tim Burton one Batman Returns, was a classic. The later two, Forever and Batman and Robin, were abysmal though.

 

[Orang Utan]

All the Batman films were crud, apart from the movie version of the 60s TV series.
I only enjoy comic book films when their duffness is acknowleged and they are played strictly for laughs and camped up to the max.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

What are you talking about!!!!! The first batman film, along with the other Tim Burton one Batman Returns, was a classic. The later two, Forever and Batman and Robin, were abysmal though.

Nope, ya wrong the first was crap; a real pile of shite that served no purpose other than to let Jacky boy wank around being a prize fool (he was a crap choice for the Joker imo)! Number two however showed how good the franchise could have been if they hadn’t got rid of Burton, the closest to the comics ever committed to film imo.

 

[Idaho]

All the Batman films were crud, apart from the movie version of the 60s TV series.
I only enjoy comic book films when their duffness is acknowleged and they are played strictly for laughs and camped up to the max.

Quite the opposite. The who camped up stuff has been completely overdone and is boring as hell.

I actually thought that of the films Batman and Robin was the best.

However the best on screen Batman is the animated series. Really nice stylised animation and very true to the original mythology.

 

[R.I.C.O.]

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actually thought that of the films Batman and Robin was the best.

WHAT?! Batman and Robin was awful, possibly one of the worst film's I've ever seen...Batman had a CREDIT CARD for fucks sake! There were FIVE bad guys, wooden acting, no character development, one-liners by Arnie The Republican, and...

...a zoom in on George Clooney's butt when they were about to fight Mr Freeze.

They ruined the Batman character, and comic sales slumped as a result. Joel Schumacher should have been hanged for that abomination!

Batman and Batman Returns were ace, Tim Burton should never have passed on the Batman franchise. The stories were great, the cinematography was great, and the roles for Nicholson, Keaton, De Vito etc. were perfect. The score was ace too.

Batman and Robin the best of the series...that made me laugh....

 

[Winston Legthigh]

it will be great, because.....TIM BOOTH IS IN IT!

yes, thats right pop pickers, Tim Booth, former singer out of James and all round legend has a small part as the baddie's henchman.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

as crap as the first Batman film [/URL]

I cannot believe you said that

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Nope, ya wrong the first was crap; a real pile of shite that served no purpose other than to let Jacky boy wank around being a prize fool (he was a crap choice for the Joker imo)! Number two however showed how good the franchise could have been if they hadn’t got rid of Burton, the closest to the comics ever committed to film imo.

Nonsense, it was a masterpiece, dark and gothic, true to the later comic books. And Jack Nicholson a crap joker! What are you on!!!!!

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I do remember that at the time that Batman was out, it was very over-hyped and a lot of people said it was rubbish. I never watched it at the time, but about a year after on video, and loved it.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

Did you ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Well I saw it in the cinema and had the videogame, the T-shirt (2), the board game, the soundtrack and a small plastic Batman. The T-shirts where amazingly cool, my favourite featuring a crazy picture of the joker with cartoon style writing saying 'if you want to make an omlette you gotta break some eggs'.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nonsense, it was a masterpiece, dark and gothic, true to the later comic books. And Jack Nicholson a crap joker! What are you on!!!!!

It was far from a master piece; I've read Batman comics for over 15 years and this was a joke (scissors on the Batwing? C'mon!). Jack was a shite joker, all he did was ponce around being himself, he didnt bother to even try and get the character right. It was a performance comparable to that camp bollox they put out as Batman in the 60s tv show.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

'in my best simpson comic shop owner voice'

No no no no, the Joker in the Tim Burton Batman film is a classic interpretation of the character. Even in the comics characters are re-inventeded and re-written time and time again. What about when batman retired and they had that wierdo in a robo suit replace him until everyone realised it was rubbish so Batman came back and killed him. The Jack Nicholsen performance was great as far as I am concerned. the Joker was a hood re-invented as a mad (homicidal) artist. Of course the film took liberties. It was a dark interpretation of the comcs. Its people like you that convinced the studios to go for joel schumakers soft gay porn approach where he was briefed to make it as comic like as possible. The one with Arnie in it was sooo bad it beggers belief. Bane was rubbish, Mr Freeze a joke and Uma Thurman was OK but thats because shes sexy. Even batgirl was ludicrous. surely you have read the 70s Poison Ivy stories , they were actually really creep(er)y, not so in 'Batman and Robin). Surely the Nicholsen Joker was taking the character and doing somthing interesting with it, unlike the craposity of Tommy Lee Jones' twoface (why couldnt they have stuck with the guy who plays lando who appears in good form in the original batman) Comics usually turn into rubbish films (captian america, or the punishere being prime examples) itsonly in recent years that people have gotten good at making them, spiderman, xmen etc.. The Batman you (A.I) dont like was a good overhyped event movie.

P.S. Scissors on Btwing = cool

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I disagree, Jack was crap, he did not care for the character and did nothing other than play to type. The second movie was by far the best and gave the clearest example of what the franchise could of achieved (I aint surprised you like B the Dog, if memory serves you like T3! ).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

P.S. Scissors on Btwing = cool

Balls! Why the hell were they added? Did Batman suddenly become aware of a great need to cut things mid flight, plot contrivance at its worst and most embarrasing!

 

[Idaho]

WHAT?! Batman and Robin was awful, possibly one of the worst film's I've ever seen...
Batman and Robin the best of the series...that made me laugh....

Yeah it was shit - but they were all shit and wasn't that the one with Drew Barrymore in white lacy stockings?

 

[Orang Utan]

All these comic book films are trash and evidence of a lack of courage in Hollywood to come up with new ideas.
The only comic book films I've enjoyed are Superman and Superman II